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2007 Messages...
"Look who stopped by!"
Happy New Year!
Bill & Ellen Bakaleinikoff
Sierras, CA USA - Monday, December 31, 2007 at 22:24:39
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Sturch...
You are a falangist lunatic, and I love you all the more for it...
Fifty or more years ago on New Year's morning in the very early '60's, from a
San Francisco Bayside restaurant in Tibouron, California, the six of us grogily
ordered strong coffee, Ramus Fizz's (orange juice, rose water, a raw egg, gin,
champagne, (whipped to a froth),bacon, eggs, bagels, lox, cream cheese, yogurt,
strawberrys, rye toast, mounds of unsalted butter, abalone, quail, calamare,
whipped cream, King crab, and sin-sin...
Naturally, we charged the repast to Chet Naylor and lit a Zepplin sized phatty
to welcome the New Year... On a hill to the North of the Bay, from a three story
tall A frame house across from thr restaurant, people began to appear sleepily
on the various decks, some in pajamas, some wearing trench coats and
tri-cornered hats, a few still clothed in tux's, and still others wearing
luxurious bathrobes from the anchored cruise ship bobbing offshore. Most had
balloons and noise-makers, and various curled up whistles that unrolled when you
blew in to them.
A pirate looking chap, wearing nothing more that spurs and a fox stoll appeared
on the middle deck of the house, and after lighting a rather large cigar said
"Ready on the left?", a short pause later, "Ready on the right?"... Dramatic
silence... "Watch your targets..." "FIRE"!!!!!!!!!!!!
From the top floor of the A frame, a canon boomed into the New Year morning air,
sending sea gulls and pelicans scurrying for cover... The gentleman proceeded to
flip forward over the balcony onto the deck below...
HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE...
guido
guy webb
USA - Monday, December 31, 2007 at 22:13:48
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You should note for the "famous" column that this writer once danced with Tina
Turner in Springfield, Oregon. Aside from that, I could have been somebody, but
things happen. Happy New Year Folks!
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Monday, December 31, 2007 at 21:59:38
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OKAY?
ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?
WELL, I'M NOT.
I'VE HAD IT WITH YOU PEOPLE, THE LOT OF YOU.
THIS IS GOING TO BE MY ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY LAST POSTING
for the year.
God bless you all in the new year and always!
Stuart Lurch Sturch
USA - Monday, December 31, 2007 at 21:25:33
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BOW-WOW!
Lurch
- Monday, December 31, 2007 at 21:15:59
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RICHARD!!!!!!!!!!!
Just because I have a mustache, smell of garlic, don't shave my legs or pits,
that doesn't turn me Yvonne DeCarlo...If Sturch is searching for his first wife,
he can check the nether end of Billy B's mount on the "Broke Back Mountain Men"
cassette...Personally, I think that if he had taken your lead and read to dog's,
she may have stayed around a bit longer...
Might I suggest that rather than refer your brother-in-law to the "Famous Uni
Kids" site, you instead offer deeper insight to our esteemed group by having him
read the "Infamous Uni Kids" pages...The list is considerably longer, and offers
an even more "Believe It Or Not" quality to the Islanders. No need for
varification by a second party, who would dare add their deeds to THAT list if
it wasn't verifiable using Vince's F.B.I. contacts...
Did anyone else note that Judy Vandergrift Hart gave credence to the
Monroe/Kennedy connection on Helena by the old Bristol Circle that use to
separate Sunset on its way to the sea, laying to rest Vinnie's denial of the
tryst?
My first wife and I wish you all a safe a prosperous 2008!
guido
guy webb
USA - Monday, December 31, 2007 at 17:56:37
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How could I be rude enough to sign off without saying THANK YOU to Carol, Bobbie
and Diane and the other folks who continue to make this wonderful thing happen.
Bt the way, we are meeting Bonnie's brother from the east coast in Palm Springs
in about a week. When we were in New Zealand with them last year I was trying to
tell him about UNI which of course you are not supposed to do unless there is
another Islander with you to provide validity to your comments. My brother in
law was "Expressing Some Doubt" that all these people could have gone to the
same High School. Now the last time I talked to some folks about Uni, Brian
Meada was with me so we were good to go. So this time I am going to Bring my
computer and dial up Uni and suggest to my Brother in law that he scroll down to
"Famous Uni Kids" Then I'll come back in an hour and ask him if he is through
yet! I love him to death but he is my "BROTHER IN LAW". Memories fade but
revenge is forever!
Richie
Rich I Can't remember McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Monday, December 31, 2007 at 17:02:02
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Jerry Carpenter - Thanks for the offer Friend but I think you need a better map,
isn't it about a 100 miles from Arroyo Grande to Santa Cruz? I just flew up and
back yesterday to deal with some issues they had on the house they rent in Santa
Cruz. It is close to the ocean and they had some rust problems. They lead a
tough life! Our son is actually home with us for the Holidays. Happy New Year
everyone, especially to the new old friends who joined our party this year. Some
great new additions! By the way, my younger son Scot will get his degree in
Biology this fall. Bonnie and I are awfully proud that both of the boys will
have college degrees now. Neither one of them took "time off" from college and I
think that was very important. I have seen too many kids who were "Just going to
take off for a semester". There is a local junior colleges that some of the kids
around here kiddingly refer to as "U.C. San Marcos". I guess our major
accomplishment this year was adding 600 sg feet to our house without getting
divorced. Bonnie took her annual trip to Africa and is going twice next year.
She will go to Sierra Leone in March with the Santa Monica group and my younger
boy is saving his money so he can pay his own way to go to Sierra Leone with
her, which will allow a professional to be sponsored for free. Then in the
summer she will be going to a country on the equator in Africa on an Aids
education campaign with a local group. I have got some "stuff" that I have been
exploring but have not made any decisions yet....I love animals and there is a
program at the local shelter where you can volunteer to be a "Dog Reader" among
other things. (Have some fun that, Towelsnappers) I think this is a great idea.
Apparently dogs love to be read to and I love reading and I love dogs. How can I
go wrong?
Happy New Year and LuvYaAll
Richie
and
Richie
Rich McKinney
San Diego, USA - Monday, December 31, 2007 at 16:39:57
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Hey Rich,
If you're in Santa Cruz you either drove less than 3 miles from my home or, now
that I think of it, less than that OVER my place if you flew. I'm probably glad
you didn't know or I'd be wearing some kind of bird poop or whatever Larry the
cable guy throws around.
You might think about stopping for coffee or a meal if you drive by on the way
home.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Sunday, December 30, 2007 at 23:56:07
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Carol McConkey told me that Guido was Stuart Lurch Kerns first wife!!!! Darn
you, Carol!!
Richie
Rich mckinney
Santa Cruz, USA - Sunday, December 30, 2007 at 21:28:05
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Hal - Put Down The Lemons!! H. Cary was only kidding...It won't work for the
computer!!
Richie
Rich McKinney
Santa Cruz, USA - Sunday, December 30, 2007 at 19:40:48
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This is just to pass on a tip about how to sort of stay healthy in the new year.
Namely, I was reading somewhere that two of Horatio Nelson's ships were absent
from the battle of Trafalgar, because he had sent them to Gibralter for lemons.
He had figured out that not only did lemonade every day keep his sailors from
getting scurvy, but it also kept them from getting sick.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Sunday, December 30, 2007 at 19:08:33
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As I mentioned in a posting a while back, I have purchased a HD tv for my
bedroom. SO far it hes been two weeks and no tv. I bought it from sears, has
anyone else out there had a problem like I have, or is it just the local store?
I noticed that when I went in to trace the order that a lot of customers had the
same problem with thier puchases also. The personel at the merchandise pick up
area were handing out certificates for money off the next purchase as a way of
apologies. Now that I have gotten rid of my last rant for the year I would like
to wish all a Happy and propeous New Year!
Hal Thorburn
Orange, Ca. USA - Sunday, December 30, 2007 at 14:18:56
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First, I want to welcome you, Gary, to an experience like no other. What
initially may be a novelty to you driven by a guarded curiosity has a way of
evolving into something else entirely. Quite frankly, you won't even know it is
happening to you until it's too late. What is it, a rash, crabs? Nope. It's as
close as you will ever get to the Twilight Zone. It's an honest-to-goodness time
warp, proof-positive that Einstein knew what he was talking about when he
postulated that time is just a place. If that sounds highfalutin for a bunch of
geezers chattin' together on the web, stick around! Before you know it, you'll
be readin' and writin' on this message board through the eyes of a sixteen
year-old again, but a wiser one for the half a century you have traveled getting
there.
And to everyone else...as one year comes to an end and a new one is about to
begin, I just want to say thanks for making my life richer, fuller and more
enjoyable than it otherwise would be without your camaraderie.
The Spanish have a traditional toast which I believe sums up my wish for all of
you in the new year and always...
Salud, amor y pesetas y el tiempo a gozarlos! I wish you good health, wealth,
and the time to enjoy them!
Feliz Ano Nuevo, Amigos!
Stuart Kern
- Sunday, December 30, 2007 at 01:57:52
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Subject of this post:
Paul Revere Theme Song
The other day I was driving my truck and listening to our classical radio
station (CBC-FM) when a Brahms Symphony came on and I always think of the Theme
(Anthem, I'm not sure of the proper term) from Paul Revere Junior High. I can
remember most of the words but it would be nice to fill in the words I can't
remember. So here goes:
"Revere Junior High School, we gather to sing your praise. With deep admiration
and loyal hearts we gaze.
Upon shining mountains o'er sparkling oceans blah, blah, blah.
Bind us ever close in your loyalty strong to pledge our faith and devotion to
thee"
I could have a lot of this wrong, but this is what I remember from that time.
Anyone out there remember the words I forgot or got wrong?
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC, Canada - Saturday, December 29, 2007 at 19:45:18
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It'll take time to familiarize myself with names. The nicknames puts a new twist
on remembering people from the early '60s.
I'm in L,A. for the holidays and we visited The Grove. My first job was at the
Farmer's Market in 1957. When I see a topic here that matches my interests, I'll
chime in.
Gary
Gary Curtis
Weaverville, CA USA - Saturday, December 29, 2007 at 15:12:40
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Gary Curtis,
Welcome to our group. You'll have to learn all of the nicknames, of course (like
guido is really Guy, etc.). We have a lot of fun here and some really meaningful
dialogue too. So, post a message when you feel like it.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, December 29, 2007 at 13:30:39
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Guy,
Double congrats on your and Mary's 40th Wedding anniversary! Wow, in these times
that is a real achievement.
My record in the nmarriage department is a little less impressive. My son and I
were laughing when a pot (not grass) broke after 40 years of service (it was a
wedding present from my Uncle and Aunt). The pot lasted 40 years and the
marriage lasted 2 1/2 years!
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, December 29, 2007 at 13:27:19
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H. Cary - Gotcha...atder is funny!
Rich mckinney
San Carlos, USA - Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 21:16:46
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Guy:
Thanks for your kind words and heartiest congratulations to you and Mary on so
auspicious an occasion. Wonderful!
Richie:
Yes, Richie, I agree. How could I not?
Cary:
You have nothing to apologize for. Go ahead and buy the cremation. Just
postdated check to 2030.
Everyone:
I don't know about anybody else, but I hate the week between Christmas and New
Year's. Why? Because it reminds me how little I've accomplished all year and how
my golf game has continued to deteriorate to the point where it ain't worth snot
anymore. Still, it is a good time for reflection, rationalizations, unrealistic
resolutions and getting as much crap as will fit in the car for a pre-2008 trip
to Goodwill. Just don't have a senior moment when you get there...ask for a
receipt!
Happy New Year one n' all!
Stuart Kern
- Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 21:15:30
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Richie; Thanks. I guess I didn't tell it right, but I thought it was pretty
funny that somebody would be offering a deal on cremation to somebody whom was
not quite dead yet. It might be a good deal, but on reflection, I figured I'd
rather die before I got cremated. I hope I didn't offend anybody. This site is a
lot of fun. I feel badly about Benazir Bhutto, but I think she was a little
naive to venture back to that country. Happy New Year!
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 20:16:10
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Stuart - I was also a fan of Nahan..Bonnies sister E- Mailed me a piece titled
"After a Hurricane" I immediately e-mailed it to Stuart and a couple other
friends. Stuart, like me was stunned by the piece. Stuart called it the best
Xmas present he ever received, which was the same way I felt. I had intended to
e-mail it to some Islanders but Stuart had already done so, and it was mostly
the people I would have sent it to anyway. This piece says it all about how the
world could and should be...I just keep rereading it, can't stay away from it.
It is basically the story of why all dogs and one little wet kitten will all go
to heaven. I beg of you, there must be some way for our Islander technocrats to
get this thing posted so we all can share it. I think it is that important. If
you feel a little down, Just hop on the website and review this piece and you'll
be good to go! Agree with me Stuart?
Luv Ya All......Richie
Rich McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 17:41:51
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On the Passing of Stu Nahan, 1926 - 2007:
I remember the first night Stu Nahan appeared on Channel 7 back in '68. Right
from the start, there was something aggressively entertaining about his
know-it-all, wise-guy attitude. I suppose it derived from a combination of his
hard-scrabble, up-by-the-bootstraps background and, like so many tough jocks who
played war on ice, an essential self- confidence. Whatever it was, it worked for
a long time.
As the years wore on though and his girth increased until he resembled the
Pillsbury Doughboy, so too did his one-time, ingratiating charm evolve into a
not particularly well-concealed condescension. The smile became a snarl and with
it the loss of his audience.
Still, he was a fixture here in Lalaland for a long time and he will be missed
for the uniqueness he brought to sports broadcasting for many years.
From one Stu to another...rest in peace!
Stuart Kern
- Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 15:55:03
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Guido,
MOST HAPPY RETURNS ON YOUR 40TH!!
Certainly hope it's a marvelous retreat for you both!!
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 15:36:15
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H. Cary - pick up a copy of Consumer Reports magazine for this month or last
month (you can probably google it)....Big article on prepaid Funerals....Some
are legit but many are scams....Be Careful!
Richie
Rich McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 15:24:22
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Barbara, it was my pleasure taking and forwarding the photos of your parents
former home.
Stuart, Mom informs me that Dad bought the album at March Air Force Base. As far
as I am concerned, ALL of our parents were heroes. I hope my pride doesn't imply
any exclusivity. Thanks for checking the album info out. It would have made it
all the more special to me had it in fact been made by your company. The are
enough examples of "Six Degrees of Separation" on this web site to confuse
Confucius.
Mary and I are off to a seaside hideaway to celebrate our 40th wedding
anniversary on Sunday (no Ranger Bill, not a Coleman tent at Oso Buco beach camp
ground...). Everyone stay safe and have a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!
guido
guy webb
ventura, USA - Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 14:10:59
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Sorry for double-dip and then alias without real name. Both unintentional. Long
day!
Stuart Kern
- Thursday, December 27, 2007 at 00:13:37
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aka
Stuart Kern
- Wednesday, December 26, 2007 at 23:58:35
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No thanks, Cary, but might you be interested in a plot with a view?
Mr. Joy-Boy
USA - Wednesday, December 26, 2007 at 23:55:18
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No thanks, Cary, but might you be interested in a plot with a view?
Mr. Joy-Boy
USA - Wednesday, December 26, 2007 at 23:55:15
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I just received in the mail a deal for a free pre-paid cremation. I've been
debating whether to take the deal, or just wait until I'm dead and have to pay a
higher price. I've decided to pass on it, but if anyone is interested, I'll be
glad to forward it on.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Wednesday, December 26, 2007 at 23:34:17
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I resolutely resolve to NOT make any New Years Resolutions since I'm resigned to
the conclusion that I will find as many ways as possible to disappoint myself in
a natural way without the pressure and stress of making resolutions MEANT to be
broken.
A MOST HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR TO ALL!!!!!!!!!
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Wednesday, December 26, 2007 at 21:28:46
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Jerry C.....that line is HILARIOUS !!!
Hugs, Diane
Diane Graveline Johnson
Huntington Beach, Ca USA - Wednesday, December 26, 2007 at 21:14:59
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Jerry; I'm sure there are some members of the fair sex whom probably engage in
that chewing out kind of stuff, but I've never experienced it. Life is not too
awfully serious in my corner of the world. Happy New Years resolutions everyone!
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Wednesday, December 26, 2007 at 19:21:53
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KNEW!!! you'd appreciate that if no-one else did, Rich.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Wednesday, December 26, 2007 at 15:58:22
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Jerry C - Atders Funny!!!
Richie
Rich mckinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Wednesday, December 26, 2007 at 14:54:47
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Cary,
Just got an email with a link to a song I think is dedicated to
you...........Titled "It's Hard To Kiss The Lips At Night That Chew Your Ass Out
All Day Long" ;-))
http://jbreck.com/itsshardtokiss.html
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Wednesday, December 26, 2007 at 13:18:42
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Welcome Gary Curtis to this message board...GREAT to have you aboard !!! I'm
sure you can add some wonderful messages having been a "Foreign Corresondent".
Which countries did you report news from? As you read thru the messages, you
will see a little bit of everything...from fun trivia to not so politically
correct to much too political...to people's travels to fond memories of our
youth...but the VERY BEST is re-connecting with old friends.
I hope everyone who posts (and as Barbara said, lurks) had a very Merry
Christmas and/or Happy Hannukka !!!
Hugs, Diane
Diane Graveline Johnson
Huntington Beach, Ca USA - Wednesday, December 26, 2007 at 10:51:54
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I received a very high tech Christmas present this year. It is a remote device
like a tv remote, but the purpose of it is "How to Control a Woman". It has
buttons one can push, such as "mute", etc., which are employed or activated by
aiming the device at the subject and by pushing the appropriate button. I have
been pushing some of the buttons, but for some reason the device doesn't always
work properly. I think it is perhaps because the device is made in China. It
apparently has not been fully perfected. I'm tending to think that perhaps
Barack is right about these products that come from China.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Tuesday, December 25, 2007 at 23:21:18
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this is my first post. I graduated with the Elysians, the Summer 1960 class, but
know many of the Islanders. Am currently living in a mountain town about 80
miles from the Oregon/Calif border.
I still maintain a home in Los Angeles 1 block from Webster Jr. High. I
frequently talk with Mike Ripps and some of my neighbors were Uni Hi grads.
Retired from the airlines 4 years ago, and was a foreign correspondent for a
good part of my career.
Gary
Gary Curtis
weaverville, ca USA - Tuesday, December 25, 2007 at 17:09:26
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WELCOME Gary Curtis to our website. Gary graduated in Summer 1960 and is looking
for his class website ... I wrote to Gary to let him know that we were a BIG
CLASS and have plenty of room and we've invited him to post messages here! ;-))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Tuesday, December 25, 2007 at 16:25:27
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Hal,
What a hilarious story of you and Santa!
Here's hoping that all of the posters (and lurkers) on this site have a
wonderful holiday.
Thanks to you all for adding a special quality to my life with all of your
postings.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, December 25, 2007 at 15:25:47
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Guy,
I know that I have already thanked you personally but I would like to thank you
publically for all of your trouble taking and sending me the beautiful photos of
my parent old house in Ventura! As I said to you, what a wonderful Christmas
present!
I'll certainly try the instruction you wrote here to try and get the 3D version
of my parents other house in LA. I'm not quite sure that I have the nerve to
call and ask the current owners (I have no idea who they are) for streaming
video of the house, but who knows maybe my courage will come.The house where I
grew up on Bundy Drive (and went to Brentwood Elementary, Paul Revere, Uni and
UCLA) was torn down years ago. I don't have a lot of happy memories of that
house (my Dad and I didn't get along very well until he was very old) so it no
great loss to me.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, December 25, 2007 at 15:16:45
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LOL ... WONDERFUL, story Hal ... thanks for sharing it. I too watched "A
Christmas Story" last night for the umpteenth time ... they even have ornaments
now that are made to look like that fish-net stocking leg lamp with that goofy
looking lamp shade that the dad won and he was soooo proud of. I did flash back
a time or two to "It's a Wonderful Life" ... two of my all time favorite
Christmas movies!!
Merry Christmas everyone ... ;-)))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Tuesday, December 25, 2007 at 09:16:18
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I just finished watching "A Christmas story" for the umpteenth time. It brings
back many fond memories of when I was about four or five years old and was
living on a farm in Pittsford N.Y. while my Dad went to the University of
Rochester on the G.I.bill. I can remember seeing santa at Macys dept store, I
was so terrified I wet my pants and santa too. I knew I had blown it and burst
into tears. A really pissed of and pised on santa growled at me and said, kid,
if you don't shut up and tell me what you want you aren't getting anything for
Chistmas. The mercenary in me took over and I rattled of my want list. I
actually got everything I wanted and more, thanks to santas secret helper
(grandma). I wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Hal Thorburn
Orange, Ca. USA - Tuesday, December 25, 2007 at 00:18:50
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Guy:
I would like to tell you that the album you described was of my manufacture, but
it was not. It predated my company or my father's before mine by several years.
However, from your description, your album greatly resembles the one my folks
bought during the war to keep the same kind of wartime pictures you described
(i.e. my dad as an air cadet next to his PT-17 Steerman, shots with his RAF
buddies, his young son wearing his Eisenhower jacket, etc.)...right down to the
gold Army Air Corps hat emblem embossed into the album's saddle brown cover
(wings surrounding a double-bladed propeller).
My dad's wartime exploits and accomplishments did not nearly compare with those
of your late father...very few fighter pilots did. Nevertheless, that old album
and its contents are one of the few things I will most value when my 88-year-old
father passes on.
Enjoy Christmas with your mom, as I know you will. I wish mine was still here so
I could too.
"God bless us, everyone!"
Stuart Charles Kern
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA USA - Monday, December 24, 2007 at 22:29:00
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Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays from the Sierras..Bill & Ellen.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Sieras, CA USA - Monday, December 24, 2007 at 19:04:07
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Stuart Kern,
Admittedly, this is a wild shot in the dark, but given Billy B's description of
your birthday present to him,
I have to inquire about the following:
My dear Mother arrived for Christmas yesterday with a box that had been sealed
for 56 years. My Sister drove Mom up from Pacific Palisades in the early
afternoon. As John Strong, Mary and I greeted Mom and Julie, and unloaded
Julie's SUV, my sister started cursing and yelling in dispair. "This is
terrible" and proceeded to place a soaking wet, sealed cardboard box on the
carpeted floor of the garage, next to Mom's '57 T-Bird (the car has been mine
for 17 years now, but it will always be Mom's)...
The grey cardboard box was sealed with Scotch tape and encircled with string. A
large Christmas floral arrangement in the back seat had spilled water all over
the box, which was falling apart in Julie's hands. "Those are Dad's pictures"
Julie cried as she tore the soaking box away from the enclosed albums inside. We
separated the cardboard from the leather books and quickly wiped off the covers
with towels hurriedly brought from the laundry room off of the garage. The
cardboard had absorbed most of the moisture, and luckily only one album had a
dark water stain along the spine and back. The rich leather album (12 inches
wide by 15 inches long, with a 3 inch spine)was a polished "Saddle" brown, with
gold embossed Army Air Corps wings (about 3 inches from wing tip to wing tip and
about 1 inch high from the bottom of the shield to the top of the wings. There
are three verticle, embossed gold "chains" (two outside 7 inches long, and one
in the middle, 8 inches long) the 3 "chains" have fancy crests at their tops...
The inside front and back covers are lined with a yellow "canvas" looking cloth
and the paper leaves of the album are held inside by a leather strip that runs
through three holes on the pages side and ties in a knot through a one inch
leather flap on the inside of the front and back covers.
The leather album protected the precious contents of Dad's war time flight
history. Black and white photos of Cadet Flight School (a majority of the photos
are held on the pages with little black "arrows" that are glued to the pages and
have a "sleeve" that the corners of the photos are inserted into), newspaper
clippings, awards, certificates, pen and ink drawings signed "G.Webb" or with a
little ink spider web in the lower right corner, photos of the English, Scotish,
Irish, French, Polish, Hungarian, Russian, Swiss, Italian, Spanish and
Portugeuse countrysides, D-Day aerial photos of the French and English
coastlines, an autographed 11" x 14" black and white photograph of a beautiful
Betty Grable inscribed in red ink "To Glenn Webb, Sincere Best Wishes, Betty
Grable"...
Many precious memories to be scanned, photographed, and passed to the rest of
the family. Now make my day and tell me that this album was made by your family
business, Stuart. I will forward digital photos of the front and back of the
album if you need more info to I.D. it...
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS
guy
Guy Martin Webb
Ventura, CA USA - Monday, December 24, 2007 at 05:47:23
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Thanks Guy,
Knew I could do all that but still no side views, only "plan" views. Guess I was
putting more into your descriptions than I should.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Sunday, December 23, 2007 at 19:59:12
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Barbara and Jerry,
Go to Google Earth, type in Seahorse and Peninsula, Ventura, CA. Zoom in on the
second house to the west of Seahorse (on the North side of Peninsula), place the
cursor above the N on the compass in the upper right hand corner, click on the
right hand side of the horizontal bar above the N. That will tilt the picture so
that you can see up the driveway to the front door. Clicking the cursor on any
part of the picture and the cursor becomes a fist "grabbing" the screen and
allowing you to manipulate it. Pointing to the right of the compass at the upper
right hand corner allows you to point and click to zoom in or out of the photo.
Alternatively, use a reverse phone directory to look up your parents old houses
address. That will give you the current occupants phone number. Call them,
introduce yourself as having previously lived there, and ask them to stream
video the inside and outside of the house to give you real time digital photos
of what the house looks like today.
As a last, desparate try, contact Ranger Bill and ask him to do an aerial video
fly-over tomorrow night when he does his annual "Pay Per Visit - Santa on a
Sliegh Christmas Eve Extravaganza"...
Carol can forward your e-mail address for my photos too.
guido
guy webb
USA - Sunday, December 23, 2007 at 19:43:23
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Yeah Guido!! How?
Or are you running Google Earth Pro? 'Cause I can't see any side shots either,
except for the larger buildings/high-rises that are in the larger cities. Huh?
Huh? Huh?
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Sunday, December 23, 2007 at 19:09:57
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Carol M - Atders funny!!
Rich McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Sunday, December 23, 2007 at 19:03:10
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Guy,
When you said "I am looking at your parents house on the other screen (or
something to this effect)" were you looking at the digital photo of the house or
did you generate the picture of the house from Google Earth? I can now get the
arial view of both houses (Ventura and LA) but I can't seem to figure out how to
actually see the front of the house. Can you do this? If so, how? What settings,
etc. do you have on Google Earth that allow this?
If you could send the digital photo of my parents house (could you ask Carol for
my new email address?) I would be very grateful. But I would love to be able to
see the house with Google Earth somehow.
Jerry,
Your information was very valuable. Thanks tons!
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, December 23, 2007 at 18:46:20
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Bill Riegert - Great to hear from you...I remember you as one the "Original Good
Guys" from pretty much our Pre Uni eras (Richland Webster). I have enjoyed some
of your postings from the past and it sounds like you have had a wonderful life
and I am very happy for you. Rich Goshert was a great guy and I am glad to see
you are still friends...Have a great Holiday Season, old friend.
Richie
Rich Mckinney
rich mckinney
San Diego, ca USA - Sunday, December 23, 2007 at 17:06:23
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Carol,
Your last post (re: pulling the plug and gin) was a scream!!! I so agree with
you on that subject.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, December 23, 2007 at 14:20:59
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Guy and Jerry,
Thanks so much for the help with Google Earth. I'll try both approaches and see
what happens. I also have another house of my parents (both died in 1995) in LA
that I would very much like to see. I'll ask you how to get that one after I
figure out how to get the one in Ventura.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, December 23, 2007 at 14:19:37
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Last night my daughter and I were sitting in the den and I said to her, "I never
want to live in a vegetative state, dependent on some machine and fluids from a
bottle to keep me alive. That would be no quality of life at all, so if that
ever happens, just pull the plug." So she got up, unplugged the computer, and
threw out my gin. She's such a witch. ;-))))
Merry Merry all ...
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Sunday, December 23, 2007 at 13:06:37
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Karen & I want to wish all Islanders and their families the very best for the
Holidays and New Year! In the event Rich Goshert and Marilee read this, Karen
and I can't wait for our get together in 2008 at Eagle's Nest this time.
Love to all and to all a good bye.
William 'Bill' Riegert
Orlando, FL USA - Sunday, December 23, 2007 at 12:37:57
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Barbara,
I am looking at your parents house on the other screen.
Go to Google Earth. Type in Peninsula and Seahorse, Ventura, CA.
Zoom in on your parents house, then you can circle it an view it from all
directions. If all else fails, I have digital photos that I can re-send to your
new computer.
guido
guy webb
USA - Saturday, December 22, 2007 at 21:54:41
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Oh, forgot. Google Earth will NOT have side views of many but the high-rise
buildings.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Saturday, December 22, 2007 at 20:02:53
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To get the location of anyplace in either Google OR Google Earth you have to
enter the address as you would use on a snail-mail letter into the search or
"Fly To" box, AND Google Earth's images can be as old as 6 or 7 years, even
though they SAY they are within 3 years, although this may not be an issue in
your case here has ramifications for details we wish we had available. The
addresses for most locations in North America require the zip code too unless
it's a widely known location.
Hope this helps.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Saturday, December 22, 2007 at 20:00:17
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Billy, Bobby (or any other computer wiz),
I'm trying to use Google Earth to see what my parents old houses look like now
(one in Ventura and one in LA). I downloaded Google Earth but can't seem to get
the info I want. I got a map of where the house in Ventura is but I couldn't
figure out how to get the actual photo of the house. Any suggestions? Thanks.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, December 22, 2007 at 19:03:53
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I was just reminiscing(sp?) about the first years after I came back from the
Navy and Japan. In '66/'67 my Mom had bought a motel/gas station/cafe/bar in
northern California and one year I went up to try to help her run it. The bar
wasn't open yet so I worked in the motel and gas station anbd helped out in the
cafe. One day a guy drove into the station and said, "Hey Jerry Carpenter! How
the heck are ya?" I had NO idea who he was and to this day am sorry I insulted
him by my total absence of recognition. He said "I'm Ron Frogley." After I
joined this group and went through the class roster there was Christopher
Frogley. If anyone has contact with him, please tell him of my regrets for not
remembering him. As I've said before, my memory plays a selective game with me
(just ask Brann about this) and now I know it always has. But I was so young
then and should have had more brain power than now. I wonder how many others I
have done this way? If so, I'm sorry and wish you all the very best.
I know this isn't really necessary, but I'm doing it anyway.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Saturday, December 22, 2007 at 18:18:14
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Thanks Stuart. Merry Christmas to you too
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Saturday, December 22, 2007 at 17:33:39
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Here! Here! Richie! My sentiments exactly.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Saturday, December 22, 2007 at 17:28:11
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Looky here...I have already had 63 stinkin birthdays AND I DON'T WANT ANY
MORE....FUGGET ABOUT IT!
RICHIE
Richie (the Bonehead) McKinney
escondido, USA - Saturday, December 22, 2007 at 15:27:05
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A Secular Christmas Tune:
http://www.thecompassgroup.biz/merryxmas.swf
Stuart Muller
The Third Rock - Saturday, December 22, 2007 at 15:25:21
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Anyone out there know what it means when on line, a creaky door sound effect
issues from the computers speakers, and a few moments later the same creaky dorr
followed by the soun of a slam? I get no warnings from my security programs.
Also is it just me but I think it strange that anyone would believe tha a high
schools stuent body could spontaneously break out into perfeclty coregraphed
song and dance? I know it is just a movie made for kids, but we went to a high
school that probabky had the most talented kids in all the L.A. unified school
district. We had actors, actresses, singers writers,etc. If they weren't already
they werw soon to be, and I don't remember even just one kid suddenly breaking
out in song and dance , let alone the entire school.
Hal Thorburn
Orange, Ca. USA - Saturday, December 22, 2007 at 14:54:52
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Guy ... I too forgot to look at "Our Birthdays" in December. Sorry Susan, a VERY
HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY!!!
We don't see Susan here very often and I doubt she'd even know to wish the next
Birthday boy or girl a Happy Birthday, which is also the case of many on that
list. So maybe it is best to do away with "Our Birthdays".
Or ...
When it is your birthday and if you want a "Birthday Greetings", post a note on
our message board "it is my birthday today". Nothing wrong with that, right??? I
could still leave "Our Birthdays" on our website, but no one would actually have
to be responsible for posting a message. That way, we would be leaving it up to
the birthday boy or girl.
Any other ideas?????
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Saturday, December 22, 2007 at 09:16:34
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I have come up with an alternative to the BIRTHDAY GREETER.
Rich has the next Islander birthday, January 9th, 2008...
Susan Landau had the last Islander birthday, (P Birthday Susan!!!) December 16,
2007...
Susan will introduce Rich as our "Birthday Boy" on January 9th, and Rich will
greet Bobby Brann on February 1st, 2008...etc, etc, etc
P Birthday everyone...
guido
guy webb
USA - Friday, December 21, 2007 at 23:11:34
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Stuart Lerchkern - You are right, Paul is the best! You feel like you are
walking right next to him...Susan Sidy Zepkin...Old friend, you are STILL
GEORGEOUS!!
Richie
Rich McKinney
San Carlos, USA - Friday, December 21, 2007 at 18:13:11
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Damn, if Paul didn't do it again!
Mister Mountain Man, your writing is nothing short of riveting. You instantly
create the images you are describing in this reader's mind's eye like no one
else on this message board. Wonderful!
Write some more...or at least more often, please.
Stuart Kern
- Friday, December 21, 2007 at 02:15:02
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I think i mentioned the generator twice, ifact I know I did. Good Night
Paul " The King of TYPO"
P.B., WA USA - Friday, December 21, 2007 at 00:18:29
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Merry XMAS too all!!! Well we survived the 70-80&90mph winds of the North West.
We are approx 200 feet from the Beach,hence Beach ave B&B of course we also live
on Beach ave. Mim and her 95 year old dad decided to go to seattle and stay with
our son Matt the plumber. I stayed and camped out in our house with a generator
going half the time from the garage with three or four extention cords going in
various direction in the house through the smallest window path I could find.
Unfortunatly my generator was only 1800 watts and would not run both freezers
and a heater. So I was constantly changing plugs from on place to the other.
Another problem was our fireplace insert! the wind being so strong rattled the
top stove pipe from the mason chimmney dropping the pipe down to the top cap. Of
course we lost most of the draft and the house filled with smoke from time to
time--so I stayed in our back living area with a heater, TV(direct tv system)
and a lamp. Quite comfortable, but I could not keep the heater going, watch tv
and keep both freezers freezing. After consuming several toddies every night I
would crawl to bed and say the hell with the food and down with tv--all that was
on tv was the storm I was camping in. Strange experince since I spend 5or six
weeks of summer camping in the wilds of Bristol Bay alaska. We (fisherman) live
in an old abandon cannery called Graveyard and use whats left of the old cannery
buildings--great fun--We set up metal gutters on the side of the roof and
collect rain water,nothing better for drinking , not much pollution up there.
Use propain lights and stoves,you know, of the Coleman variety. With the gear
you can buy in the lower 48 camping becomes the "Bomb" I heard that once???!!!
any way my wife and Mr dad just made the road to Seattle on Wednesday before the
high waters closed it down again.They had a great time visiting and thrift store
shopping. The point I was trying to make is that I was ill prepared to camp in
my own house.Gee I lived in Alaska for 18 years, two with no power and seven
with minamal power,had to haul water cut and collected wood, burned coal off the
beaches of Cook Inlet. Here I am half assed mountain man and I cant even get
comfortable in my own cave,???! Mims water broke with Matthew and we lived a
quarter of a mile from our car and 36 miles from the hospital--I must be getting
really old!! I was really going to relate our marrage and Mexico trip in
1976--from Alaska to Guadalhara via La Paz . Next posting. Pablo El Pescador
paul groesse
P.B., WA. USA - Friday, December 21, 2007 at 00:13:52
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To all, Happy Holiday Our Thanksgiving was spent in Palm Springs with all the
kids being waited on and laying out by the pool, it was aroung 80,could get used
to that. The week after we all went to Big Bear (not gene he doesn't like to be
cold). It was the first time it snowed up there and the first time the kids saw
snow what fun. Christmas will be at our home, had to put up a gate around the
tree decided it would be better than worrying about it or the kids. We have
another boy due in march that makes 4 grandsons. As Diane would say hugs to all
pam gilchrist willen
valencia , ca USA - Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 19:38:10
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For those of the Christian persuasion I offer a link to one of my MOST favorite
songs that is appropriate for this Christmastime,
http://www.andiesisle.com/didsheknow.html
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year ALL
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 17:56:33
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Susan Sidy ... LOVE that story, thank you!!!;-)))))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 13:43:47
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Guy: Los Barriles (where the grass is always greener)
Stuart Kern
El Calabozo Federal, Baja California Mexico - Thursday, December 20, 2007 at
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Happy Holidays to everyone! The following is very cute, and I think a few of us
can relate to it:
Everyone has been guilty of looking at another's age and
thinking, "Surely I cannot look that old." I'm sure you've
done the same. If so, you may enjoy this short story.
While waiting for my first appointment in the reception
room of a new dentist, I noticed his certificate, which
bore his full name. Suddenly, I remembered that a tall
boy with the same name had been in my high school class
some 40 years ago. Upon seeing him, however, I quickly
discarded any such thought.
This balding, gray-haired man with the deeply lined face
was too old to have been my classmate.
After he had examined my teeth, I asked him if he had
attended the local high school.
"Yes," he replied.
"When did you graduate?" I asked.
He answered, "In 1957."
"Why, you were in my class!" I exclaimed.
He looked at me closely and then asked, "What did you teach?"
Susan (Sidy) Zepkin
Sedona, AZ USA - Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 11:28:23
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Stuart,
Could you be a little more specific about the exact location between Cabo and La
Paz? I'm thinking of retiring down south and opening a sea side restaurant
called "The Happy Fish"...
guido
guy webb
USA - Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 07:07:59
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Tim & Guy:
I've got a Sea of Cortez "Catch of the Day" fish story you might find
interesting. And it only happened this past Spring.
I joined three friends for a week of deep sea fishing between Cabo and La Paz.
After three days of great fishing, day four was a bust...well, almost.
Just about the time we were ready to pack it in and head back to the barn,
someone spoted what looked like a box or large carton bobbing among the swells
about 100 yards away or so. It wasn't necessary to be in the "import-export"
business to know what that was.
After meticulously checking the horizon in all directions with binoculars from
high up in the tuna tower of the 36' tournament fisher we had hired, the captain
pulled up along side the box and with a heavy-duty gaff we brought it nboard. We
figured it weighed somewhere between 75 and 85 pounds. It had a few barnacles on
it so we knew it had been in the water for awhile. No problem though because it
was wrapped in more waterproof duck tape than what you would find on a whole
shelf at your local Home Depot. Waterproof, yes, but no match for the large,
razor-sharp knife we used to dress the larger of our catches.
Inside were several well-wrapped, tightly-compressed loaves or bricks which we
opened one-at-a-time, broke-up with our fingers and dumped overboard, while
taking some very funny pictures in the process. Man, there were some very happy
fish that afternoon!
On the way back we swabbed the decks and cleaned every square inch of that boat
to where you could have performed brain surgery on it without fear of infection.
We figured the last thing the captain needed was even a single leaf fragment
leftover to have to explain to the understanding, totally incorruptible Mexican
authorities.
I don't remember what one of the guys (who, trust me, was in a position to know)
claimed was the street value of that stuff, but I do remember it was into six
figures. Even so, it never occured to any of us to try or save any of it.
Without saying a word, we all knew all we wanted to do was keep it off the
street.
And that is a fish story with a happy ending...for the fish.
Stuart Kern
- Thursday, December 20, 2007 at 00:59:56
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Tim,
Mary and I drove a camper on the bed of a Ford pick-up truck with our dog "Fat
Albert", from Carpinteria to Puerta Vilarta via mainland Mexico, east of the Sea
of Cortez, to meet up with a group of our classmates at a rental Villa in the
early 70's. It was one of the best experiences of my life...
Gary Albert, Mike Bobrick, Neal Barbera, Steve Karsh?(I am pretty sure I have
that one wrong, but it was someone like him... A lady we called "Big Bird",
Sheila "Shirley" Bodkin, and others joined us at a wonderful ocean front rental
in Puerto Villarta across from "Gringo Gulch"...
This place was just North of where Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton were
filming "The Night of The Iguana"...
There were many forays to the local "Pharmacia" where imagened ills were cured
by creative mixing of the many colored items stored on the multi-tiered shelves
of the Mexican drug stores...
We never really figured out the proper combination, but everyone argreed that we
got really close, given the language problems...
A wonderful Inca looking woman arrived each morning and proceeded to cook what
ever we were able to gesticulate to her that we desired to consume... I believe
I may have actually consumed an armadillo burrito on morning...
Americans in Mexico could consume and do just about anything we wanted back
then, and I am sure some of us over did some things... All in all, it was a
great experience, even including the graft, the pinata like taste tests we
experienced at the local drug emporium, and the languid speed that we returned
to the U.S. of A...
The 16 hour ferry trip from Mazatlan to Cabo San Lucas only added to the
mystique. We were accosted on the way back north by plain clothes Mexican Police
who threw a roadblock down in front of us around a curve as we headed home. I
gladly gave up the BB gun I had brought along for some simbelance of security on
our trip... I don't recommend following my example, as the rifle was taken to be
the real thing and required much explaination and American dinaro to cure...
guido
Good times indeed
guy webb
USA - Wednesday, December 19, 2007 at 23:23:53
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Palm Springs to LaPaz,20 hour ferry to Mazatlan. Think twice, no, think a lot
more.
Tim Ellis
Mazatlan, SIN MX - Wednesday, December 19, 2007 at 19:58:35
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Sorry for discussing politics/religion, etc., etc. on this place. Happy Holidays
everybody!!!
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Wednesday, December 19, 2007 at 18:11:54
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You'll get no argument from me on that score, Blueberries.
I was just responding, not initiating. Please forgive me. I swear on a stack of
Weekly Standards that I will never, ever again allow politics into my postings.
Cross my heart and hope to die...
...in addition to crossing my fingers, that is.
Stuart Kern
- Wednesday, December 19, 2007 at 16:56:14
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Happy Holidays
Bobby Brann
Wellton, AZ USA - Wednesday, December 19, 2007 at 15:36:28
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Guy ... personally, I am happy that you side-stepped the topic. I see no reason
that our website has to be a political website when there are so many out there.
Two non-classmate people contacted me this month looking for Billy B. as they
had lost track of him and wanted to reconnect. I am delighted that our website
leads to people reconnecting and I suspect it is because of the holidays and the
memories of our childhoods. I am sure I will post again before Christmas, but if
I don't, I hope each of you has a wonderful holiday ... hug your family and
friends!! ;-))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Wednesday, December 19, 2007 at 09:39:20
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Cary: Have you ever considered switching to decaf?
Stuart Kern
- Wednesday, December 19, 2007 at 01:05:28
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Please excuse me for side-stepping the current topic, but this site, as I
understand it, is about a group of people that "grew up" in a particular part of
this planet, at a particular time in space, while a number of extremely
significant events took place...
Fidel Castro is still in charge of Cuba...
Current Cuban taxi cabs could win a Fifty's cruise night at Bob's Big Boy in
Burbank.
If we were going to change the world for the better, it would be a done deal by
now.
Let's hold close the family and friends that we actually CAN embrace and make a
difference with, and attempt to have s peaceful year end, holiday season, and
start the New Year on a positive note.
As Diane so sweetly says, "Hugs" to all of you. Love the one your with.
Guy, Mary, Karla, Gina, and Misty Webb
guy webb
USA - Tuesday, December 18, 2007 at 22:13:04
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When Nancy Pelosi came in, she said all the right things, such as PAY GO. All
she had to do was say to George that if he wants his War, there has to be a tax
to pay for it. She didn't follow PAY GO, and she didn't make him back a tax to
pay for the War. Now the people can correctly say, as they already are saying,
that it's a do nothing Congress, working with a waterboarding President, and
that they are all way high on the out to lunch meter. And it is true. It seems
Nancy Pelosi knows she screwed up badly, which is probably why she was all wild
eyed with a fixed bizarre smile on her face the other night on television.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Tuesday, December 18, 2007 at 20:58:17
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When I saw Nancy Pelosi on the television, she didn't have a green eye shade.
She had a wild eyed look that was quite abnormal. And by the way, Happy Holidays
to you folks at NSA who are reading this. But honestly, this is not a sleeper
cell of the Moslem religion, or of al qaida, and the Out to Lunch Surf Club
isn't either.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Tuesday, December 18, 2007 at 12:18:34
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Nancy Pelosi puts on a very convincing act. Many have made the mistake of buying
into it and underestimating her over the years, much to their peril. One need
not be a Democrat to recognize exactly what she is doing: She is building an
arsenal of Republican-foiled, high-minded legislation to throw into the faces of
the Republican candidates for the next Congress and, of course whoever their
candidate is for President.
Fifty-two cards? This lady got a green eyeshade!
Stuart Kern
- Tuesday, December 18, 2007 at 08:37:56
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I gave up church for lent. But I am still a good catholic, I never wear shinny
shoes. Camera phones work better. You gotta love escalators.....one of the
pluses of getting old....nobody suspects Gabby Hayes.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, December 18, 2007 at 01:57:01
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Has anyone been paying attention to Nancy Pelosi lately? She is running the
House with an iron fist, having them send the President bills which they know he
won't sign. She has this look in her eyes, as if she is on too many meds, with
not enough lithium. She doesn't seem to have all 52 cards in her deck. But then
the President doesn't either. Do you think our whole Government is pretty much
bonkers?
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Tuesday, December 18, 2007 at 00:37:39
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Anyone who questions whether God has a sense of humor has but to see a pelican
when not in flight, a giraffe bending down to get a drink of water, an ostrich
doin' the foxtrot, or any photograph of Gabby Hayes Bakaleinikoff taken during
the past 25 years...with or without his clothes on.
Stuart Kern
- Tuesday, December 18, 2007 at 00:16:35
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Don't think there's a 9 in there.
Think as I read??? Never.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Monday, December 17, 2007 at 23:37:16
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I ho9pe I didn't offend!! You have to try harder than that, ol' pal, to offend
me.
Listen. If God doesn't have a sense of humor it was all lost before it was
created.
I hope and Pray that you ALL have the most loving Christmas season.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Monday, December 17, 2007 at 23:36:07
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J.C. - I was kidding, but if my remarks offended you or anyone, I offer you my
full apology! This is my favorite time of the year, also. I love ya Jerry, have
a great Xmas old friend. You deserve it!
Richie
Richie
richmckinney
san deggo, USA - Monday, December 17, 2007 at 22:22:13
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Richie,
Being a Bible believing, Jesus accepting, God The Father fearing
(honoring/respecting, attempt to love) Christian, I may not be the best one to
back you up on that. I can't preach here but without knowing my beloved Evie and
Jerelyn were fully committed Christian women I would have lost what little mind
I had and might even ended it all in horror and grief. As it is I can't answer
all my own questions, much less others doubts, but without knowing God forgives
all in the name of Jesus the Christ I'd already BE dead.
Sorry, that DOES sound like preaching ..........., but you asked ;-)) ;-)) ;-))
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Monday, December 17, 2007 at 21:45:31
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I only know one thing about Xmas...If there really is a God...A bunch of us
towelsnappers are gonna be Dead Meat after we're Dead meat.....I Kid, I Kid, I
Kid! Right Stuart, Billy, JC....That is right isn't it...Hello, Hello
Rich McKinney
Jerusalem, USA - Monday, December 17, 2007 at 19:36:24
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I just added a GREAT picture to "Friends Recent" of Paul & Mim Groesse.
Hal, I have called trouble shooting for our cable company as I was only able to
see a blue screen on our TV ... the Tech asked, is the channel set on Ch.3???
Sure enough, it wasn't!!! ;-))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Monday, December 17, 2007 at 09:24:58
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Richie:
I can't imagine anyone other than perhaps Imogine Cocoa wanting to marry Harry
Dick.
Cary:
The only thing dull around here is the absence of Wee Willy Wonka Bakaleinikoff.
Stuart Kern
- Monday, December 17, 2007 at 03:14:46
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Dos'nt it always go when buying a new appliance something just wont work right!
I bought a new HD t.v. for my bedroom as the one in the living room has been
fantastic. I got the HD cable box and hooked it up but it did'nt work. I called
troubleshooting and it turned out that I had connected the cables backwards, but
apparently the remote is bogus. So monday I can exchange it for the proper one.
Now all I have to do is wait for the T.V. to be delivered. The box works for the
old T.V. in the meantime. H.D. T.V. is fantastic although right now it is pretty
much at he stage where color T.V. was when we were at Uni. Not everything is in
H.D. but more stations are converting.
Hal Thorburn
Orange, Ca. USA - Sunday, December 16, 2007 at 14:36:23
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Stuart Kern: I was just having my cocktail and hoping to get your pearls of
wisdom. Sorry if it was a dull subject.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Sunday, December 16, 2007 at 14:07:05
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Cary: You just gotta' get me some of that pipe tobacco.
Stuart Kern
- Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 23:49:55
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Yeah, Richie, Harry was one alright....giant-sized. But didn't Vince do what the
rest of us only dreamt about doing? I wasn't there, but the way I heard it, Mr.
Dick kept baiting Vince by calling him Vincent and then stuck his face right in
front of Vince's and asked what he was going to do about it. Vince being Vince
was all too happy to oblige. Lights out, Harry! Adios, Vince...our hero!
Stuart Kern
- Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 23:40:57
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It seems to me that when they write the history of the jihadist movement in the
20th Century, now that we have declared War on that movement, that a little
discussed War seems sort of relevant. Namely, in the 1960s, the Hausa (Moslem)
tribe in Nigeria was trying to harass the Ibo (Christian/Jewish) tribe and
control the government. The Ibos were sitting on most of the oil, and they
seceded. When the Hausas then set out to exterminate the Ibos, the U.S. and the
U.K. backed the Hausas, whom succeeded in killing roughly 6 million Ibos
incident to their jihad/tribal conflict. The killing of 6 million Ibos was
hardly anything warranting too awfully much coverage by the U.S. media. Fast
forward to now. The U.S. is roundly condemning the jihadist movement which it
roundly backed in the 1960s.
As one of our famous presidents said, people who like this sort of information
will find this the sort of information they like.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 22:11:07
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How would you like to have been the teacher that had to call this role with the
accompanying cat calls and corrections?
Acquisto, Argula, Auricchio, Axelrad, Baerthein, Bakaleinikoff, Barberis,
Boehme, Boozell, Buteyn, Carfrango, Crittenden, Crundell, D'Amore, Deadorff,
Delameter, DeSimone, Dickey, Dimitroff, Ehinger, Elowitt, Fillerup, Fistoulari,
Findlater, Finkle, Forshee, Frick, Frogley, Gassaway, Goerke, Gorshaw,
Gruenberg, Guss, Hammock, Hancock, Hauck, Higa, Hostetter, Houy, Huckans, Hyman,
Irmler, Iwamoto, Kaderli, Kalty, Karasick, Karph, Killingsworth, Kishi, Kitsuse,
Koke, Kositchek, Kurokawa, Kroot, Lauts, Leavenworth, Ledeboer, Lederfine,
Letzkus, Lipp, Lipsy, Luck, Mashman, Matsubara, Matsumoto, Menzies, Mollring,
Muchnick, Nettleback, Neukirchner, Oku, Okubo, Paddie, Pecsok, Plasencia, Polen,
Ranftl, Ripps, Rohbough, Rosenblatt, Rubio, Safer, Schavemaker, Schechner,
Scheffer, Schenk, Schwider, Sehestad, Shimasaki, Shimamura, Skarstedt, Sognnaes,
Strong, Sugarman, Suzukawa, Takeuchi, Tinturin, Vander Schalie, Vizcarrando,
Wedlock, Weed, Weitman, Wine, Wolf, Wolff, Wood, Wood, Woodruff, Wulfson, Yagi,
Yasuda, Yoshioka, Zacharaides, Zaions, Zalk, Zettle, Zeillo ...
guy webb
USA - Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 17:49:02
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The Fly - Atders funny...How about the infamous Mr. Dick whose parents are
probably still laughing about naming him "Harry" and he compounded it by
marrying a woman named Carlotta creating a couple named Harry and Carlotta Dick.
Couldn't make this up. I truly hope they are finally resting in Peace!
Richie
richmckinney
San Carlos, USA - Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 12:27:52
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You're right, Cary. Don Pelton really was a genuinely good fellow...but he sure
was surrounded by a vicous pack of Good Fellas. What was it about "You're dead
meat, Kern" Boys Vice Principal wannabes that made them so gracious? My favorite
was Mr. Nazarian, who Ripps nicknamed "The Fly" because he had hair growing on
the OUTSIDE of his nose. Boy, did we torture that sonofabitch.
Stuart Kern
- Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 02:45:52
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Jerry....it was Mrs. Felton, she was also an art teacher.
Hugs, Diane
Diane Graveline Johnson
Huntington Beach, Ca USA - Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 02:06:21
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Speaking of the Boy's Vice Principal, it was about a week before graduation, and
Connie Shepard and I were called into his Office. She had kindly been pulling my
class cut slips from the attendance office records. The Boy's Vice Principal
allowed as how he should expel us both, but that out of the kindness of his
heart, he would let us both graduate because there was only a week left. God
bless Connie Shepard. She was such a lovely person. Later she was working for
Henry Miller, whom wrote Tropic of Cancer, etc.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Saturday, December 15, 2007 at 00:29:19
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It wasn't Mrs. Felton, it was Mr. Pelton. It wasn't the Design class, it was the
boys' vice-principal's office. You know...Vince's homeroom.
Stuart Kern
- Friday, December 14, 2007 at 23:29:18
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Maybe it was Mrs. Felton?? for Design class??
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Friday, December 14, 2007 at 17:27:58
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For all you lazy political activists...
Wake up to the smell of Animosity!
SnūzNLūz - Wifi Donation Alarm Clock:
http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/41/snuznluz.shtml
Stuart Wayne Muller
SoCal Ajacent, - Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 20:50:32
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Through my defective memories of Uni life I can glean only one name, Mr.
Wingard, German - nice guy. Oh, yeah, Mrs. Wong (Chow?), Art, and the statuesque
Student-Teacher I loved to gawk at but disliked and was disliked by, and Mrs.
Melton(?), Design(?) Art. Seemed like I would continue with an art career until
Mrs. Wong told me I was too slow to be a commercial artist. (Another way of
saying that I had no talent. Not enough to have competed.) So, although she
crushed a sensitive teenage boy, she did me a favor.
I can see myself in other classrooms with partial glimpses of teachers faces but
no idea of names.
Weren't we the last Uni class to be nationally "rated"? So, we were SOOO bad and
self-absorbed that we took down a "proud heritage".(?)
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 20:34:34
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At the risk of not seeming quite as sophisticated in my memory of the UNIHI
faculty I can only offer this....My favorite teacher was the guy who taught
drivers Ed. Why? He let us smoke when we went for test rides. And, there was
this tall Black Social Studies teacher named Mrs. Norman who was georgeous. See,
I am sofistucatud.
Richie
Rich mckinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 18:21:44
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A year ago and a half, my son graduated from high school in L.A. Unified. He got
a good education because of the luck of the draw as far as schools and teachers.
I note from the L.A. Times article today on p. B-1, that from the graduating
class of last year, every single graduate from his high school went to college.
Contrast that with what little stimulation I received from the teachers at Uni.
I think that is the difference a good teacher can make. But hey, we had a lot of
fun, and we had a great class!
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 14:19:34
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The one teacher I remember best from Uni was from a compulsory Boys Glee Club
Class, which no one in the class wanted to be in. When Mrs. Provan would start
writing on the blackboard, the guided missles would start flying around the
room, cigarettes would light up, etc., and she would turn around and say, as
usual, "You boys are disgusting".
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 14:01:57
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I am making sport of Mr. Wallach, but there's more to it than that, much more.
Harkening back to Jerry's wonderful posting about the exchange between the
arrogant CEO and the dedicated teacher, I believe that it was the Mr. Wallachs,
nice guys though they may have been, who did at least THIS impressionable
student more harm than than good by unintentionally undermining my respect for
teachers and indirectly, the administrators whose job it was to act for parents
in seeing to it that their children were exposed to the right kind of education.
If that sounds idealistic or naive, I'm sorry, but ask yourselves this question:
Why is it necessary to wrack our brains to think of the really good, dedicated
teachers we had, the ones who aroused our curiosity about the world and
instilled in us a love of learning?
I don't know about any of you, but I just went through my Chieftain yearbooks
and was hard-pressed to find some. I suppose that contributed strongly to my
ambivialence when I think about Uni as a school, the many non-educational
experiences notwithstanding.
I know it has been said that if we have one or two great teachers, like friends,
in our lifetime, we have been fortunate. Horsefeathers! I have been blessed with
several great friends my whole life and I am proud to be able toclaim a few of
you among them. I can also think of at least a half dozen really GREAT teachers
I had at Emerson Jr. High and some pretty good ones as well. That is why, unlike
Uni, when I have occasion to drive by close to the campus, I get a glow on.
Oh well, that's my take, should anyone be interested. If you think I'm wrong,
tell me. Nobody is more qualified to say so than all of you since we were all in
it together... and in a very nice way, thanks to Carol and Bob, still are.
Stuart Kern
- Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 13:17:41
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My mistake. There was one piece of absolutely invaluable information I learned
from Mr. Wallach which has stood me in good stead for all these years. It was
how he told us about seven hundred times how the Haskell Avenue on & off ramps
from the south side of the Ventura Freeway just before the 405 are so short that
you better be driving a dragster to be able to merge into traffic and you need a
parachute to stop at the stop sign. I can't imagine learning anything more
important than that in a social studies class...particularly since we all lived
on this side of Mulholland. Priceless! Sorry, but the man was just puttin' in
time.
Stuart Kern
- Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 12:22:52
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The teacher that I remember the most is our English Teacher, Granny Myers. I
often quote Granny as people are always saying "I'm Done" ... Granny would teach
that "Chickens get done, People get finished"!! ;-)
Carol McConkey Younger
Brrrrrrrrend, OR USA - Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 11:58:56
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Blondie: Are you talking about Chesterfield Wallach? His continuous performances
were funny all right, but I don't remember learning a single thing from
him...other than how to turn one's pearly whites into a lovely shade of seaweed
yellow.
Stuart Kern
- Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 11:28:07
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In trying to remember my teachers at Uni that made a difference in my life, one
that jumps out at me is Mr. Green who taught U.S. Government. Interesting thing
is, I did NOT like the man, but I learned tolerance. You have to be able to get
along with people you do not like in the world. Especially in a work place or
classroom. My two favorite teachers were Mr. Wallach for Social Studies and Mr.
Ware for Math. We were always laughing in Mr. Wallach's class, he was
HILARIOUS...he use to do this routine of lifting buckets of something, can't
remember...any of you have him and remember his "bucket routine"? The class
would just roar with laughter. Mr. Ware was the BEST math teacher..he made
everything so easy to learn. Next?
Diane Graveline Johnson
Huntington Beach , Ca USA - Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 09:42:36
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p.s. The guy who handed out the towels in the boys' gym shower was NOT a
teacher, Billy.
Stuart Kern
- Thursday, December 13, 2007 at 00:44:35
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Well done. Jerry!
May I make a suggestion, everyone? What do you say each of us give some thought
to those teachers at Uni...or perhaps a single teacher if that's the case...who
made a real difference in each of our lives and why?
I'll start it off by naming Mr. Mitzman. I never had him as a teacher, but he
did something I thought was fabulous and in so doing showed me for the first
time that teachers were more than just self-impressed, authority figures on a
mission. Here's what Mr.Mitzman did...
The morning after he bought himself a brand new Cadillac, he pulled it into the
upper patio with the widest s----eating grin on his face I ever saw on anyone,
got out, bowed, locked the doors and left it there all day.
Now THAT'S a good guy!
Next?
Stuart Kern
- Wednesday, December 12, 2007 at 22:35:32
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Thanks Jerry. Very very good.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Wednesday, December 12, 2007 at 20:48:26
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Got this in an email and thought I'd honor those of our class that became
teachers. I know we have more than one so I won't mention specific names. Just
know I say THANK YOU. For teaching my kids and grandkids or my family in
general. THANK YOU.
WHAT TEACHERS MAKE
The dinner guests were sitting around the table discussing life.
One man, a CEO, decided to explain the problem with education. He argued,
"What's a kid going to learn from someone who decided his best option in life
was to become a teacher?" He reminded the other dinner guests what they say
about teachers: "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach."
To stress his point he said to another guest; "You're a teacher, Bonnie. Be
honest. What do you make?"
Bonnie, who had a reputation for honesty and frankness replied, "You want to
know what I make?
(She paused for a second, then began...)"Well, I make kids work harder than they
ever thought they could. I make a C+ feel like the Congressional Medal of Honor
winner.
I make kids sit through 40 minutes of class time when their parents can't make
them sit for 5 without an I Pod, Game Cube or movie rental.
You want to know what I make?" (She paused again and looked at each and every
person at the table.)''I make kids wonder. I make them question. I make them
apologize and mean it. I make them have respect and take responsibility for
their actions. I teach them to write and then I make them write. Keyboarding
isn't everything.
I make them read, read, read. I make them show all their work in math. They use
their God given brain, not the man-made calculator.
I make my students from other countries learn everything they need to know in
English while preserving their unique cultural identity.
I make my classroom a place where all my students feel safe. I make my students
stand, placing their hand over their heart to say the Pledge of Allegiance to
the Flag, One Nation Under God, because we live in the United States of America.
Finally, I make them understand that if they use the gifts they were given, work
hard, and follow their hearts, they can succeed in life."
(Bonnie paused one last time and then continued.) "Then, when people try to
judge me by what I make, with me knowing money isn't everything, I can hold my
head up high and pay no attention because they are ignorant... That's what I
make..... I MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
What do you make Mr. CEO?"
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Wednesday, December 12, 2007 at 19:21:27
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Stuart Wayne Muller
90272, USofA - Wednesday, December 12, 2007 at 14:00:57
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WELCOME Sandra Neukirchner to our website. We had very little information on
Sandra, so it is great that she found our website.
Please post a message Sandra, we'd love to hear from you!!
Barbara ... SUPER DUPER that you are LOVING your new computer and you actually
found a support center where you could understand the Tech!! ;-)))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Wednesday, December 12, 2007 at 10:18:31
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Dear Mr. Stewart:
We at the Democratic National Committee are outraged at your insensitivity. For
you to have suggested insincerity on the part of not one, but two former
governors, is not only an unacceptable breach of good taste, but an outright
insult to the vast number of Creationists taking up space in the Commonwealth of
Massachusetts and Dogpatch, USA.
S. Charles Kern, Esquire
DNC, - Wednesday, December 12, 2007 at 02:07:26
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Great news! I finally got a reply from Acer and they told me how to fix my
keyboard problem! So now I can keep my beautiful computer and know that the tech
support for Acer does exist afterall (just a bit slow to say the least). The
following symbols were the ones that I couldn't get:
{[}]<>?/. but as you can see - I can get them now. This saves me so much work
and headache. I love this computer and look forward to seeing what I can do with
it.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, December 12, 2007 at 00:34:25
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Let's only hope that we can get some more good questions about their religious
and metaphysical views for Wingnuts Huckabee and Romney before their candidacies
go down in flames. The latest from Huckabee, when asked about how he can
reconcile his views on abortion and the death penalty, was that Jesus didn't ask
for clemency in the Garden of Gethsemane. I'm sure there is a lot more nonsense
to be gleaned from these two.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Tuesday, December 11, 2007 at 16:31:37
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Judi,
Thanks for the kind words of support! Even though you've retired from the LA
Unified School District (I miss seeing at work!), your are still an educator
through and through.
Cary
Apology accepted, and thanks for the good wishes! I pray that there are no more
inappropriate targets in your sights, now that the women and gay contingents
have raised the issue of the need for sensitively in mind and expression.
Peace and Love to All,
Stuart Muller
Pacpalcalusa, The Third Rock - Tuesday, December 11, 2007 at 16:20:29
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Stuart Muller: I apologize!! You can see why I was made a charter member of the
Out To Lunch Surf Club. It wasn't because I was a competent surfer. My very very
warmest and best to you, and to your Dear Mom and Dad, and to Payson and
Daniella.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Tuesday, December 11, 2007 at 15:30:55
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Cary, you are going to be crowned the King of Political Incorrectness.
Sorry you were the brunt this time, Stuart.....
Hopefully he will learn from this.....
Judi
Judi Hersh Welch
Pac Pal, USA - Tuesday, December 11, 2007 at 13:19:16
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Cary,
"...accused of being a gay..." What the F*#K! Is this another of your ill-fated
attempts at humor?
Accused, according to the American Heritage Dictionary, means "To charge someone
or something with a shortcoming or error. To bring charges against someone for a
misdeed. " As a lawyer, you probably already knew that.
People's choice of words can reveal a great about their personalities and
thought processes. I'm hoping that you meant to say "perceived as being gay." In
making this distinction, I hope I won't be accused of being "lawyerly."
You Former Brother-in-Law
Stuart Muller
34*02'25.18N, 118*31'50.74W, Earth - Tuesday, December 11, 2007 at 11:35:05
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HCS,
Too late, "you can run.................." It ain't any better anyplace else.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Tuesday, December 11, 2007 at 11:15:51
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Stuart: You are right. The case is hopeless. So we had better get a good new
President. The lady whom I live with thinks Hillary is too pushy. She is for
Obama. I tend to agree. He seems to have a very sharp wife. If we get another
ding a ling in there, I think I'll move to Canada.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Tuesday, December 11, 2007 at 08:59:27
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Okay, Cary, you asked for it. Here's my essay. Though it is somewhat briefer
than my usual endless barrage hot air, it still answers the question with
absolute precision and unflinching wisdom on how to best select the
Congressional leadership...
Eenie, meenie, miney, mo.
I rest my case.
p.s. It's fun having you as a regular here in the sandbox. It gives Richie a
chance to lick his wounds
...among other things.
Stuart Kern
- Tuesday, December 11, 2007 at 03:57:05
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Judi Hersh; I was only joking about women having the right to vote. I guess I
should not make jokes on this site, so I won't be accused of being a gay, or a
dinosaur, or a Norman Mailer, heaven forbid. But on the other side of the coin,
with the neocons running the republican party, and the out to lunch running the
Congress, how in the world are we going to rescue the planet, as Al Gore's
speech of today suggests that we do?
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Tuesday, December 11, 2007 at 02:37:04
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Stuart (Kern),
I sure can relate to your 24 year old son "Moving back home". My 22 year old son
hasn't left yet (yes, I want him to stay). About the rooms, I have to shovel the
flammable material (all the way from old car insurance papers to pizza boxes
(you get the idea) away from the baseboard heater so we don't go up in smoke!!!
He went through a period when he would get really pis--- and then decide to cook
something and of course he would forget all about it and the townhouse was
filled with smoke, all 4 smoke alarms were zapping away. Thank GOD he's passed
that phase. He still gets really drunk but at least he doesn't cook too. Scary
times. Everytime I step into his room my eyes start to water from the dust. WOW!
12 years of dust - image that?
But he doesn't share your son's care of his car. David's car is a bad as his
room.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, December 10, 2007 at 22:41:12
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Guy,
No one wants to "ulock the Caps lock" more than I do and start really seeing
what this computer can do. But I really must solve this problem with the
keyboard first.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
BC Canada - Monday, December 10, 2007 at 22:28:33
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Stuart (Kern),
What a good laugh I got from your post today!!
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, December 10, 2007 at 22:10:35
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Hi y'all!
I must admit to being a bit discouraged about my new computer. I'm still having
the problems with my keyboard (the lower right symbols) still don't work and I
still haven't gotten an answer from the tech support people at Acer. I'm now
looking for FREE computer advice with other web sites. I found one called 5 star
(or something like that). Does anyone know of others. I really will have to
return the beautiful computer if there is virtually no tech support (as it
appears now) with the super complicated machine. Boo! Hoo!
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Monday, December 10, 2007 at 22:04:53
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Richie ... I suspect Michael Vick will be protected in prison and will not mix
with the other prisoners. I do hope he has a bunch of money saved because I
suspect his football career is over ... well, at least I hope so. He is
apologizing, but I have zero sympathy for him.
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Monday, December 10, 2007 at 20:22:58
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Michael Vick, hey Buddy, you got sentenced to 23 months in prison....All those
beautiful Pit Bulls that you tortured went to heaven, do you think any of your
"cellies" might have had a pet pit that they loved? Good luck Mikey, and don't
bend over for the soap.
Richie
Rich mckinney
san diego , USA - Monday, December 10, 2007 at 19:43:30
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In response to what you said, Stuart Kern, about a Lady being Speaker of the
House, this is apparently why Congress can't live on a budget. And when there
was a man as Speaker, the Congress couldn't live on a budget because the
Republicans were in charge, with their Voodoo Economics. So we need some good
essays from you in order to solve these problems.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Monday, December 10, 2007 at 17:36:58
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"What a fabulous, hilarious and thoughtful 50th birthday gift. Sorry I took
offense, Guy. I had no idea." Also, thanks for the nice note.
And, in my expert opinion, you guys make a fine couple, much better that CH
Stewart and I probably would!
Respectfully,
Stuartsadian
Stuart Muller
34*02'25.18N, 118*31'50.74W Earth - Monday, December 10, 2007 at 14:38:28
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Sheeeeez! Now I gotta publish a stinkin book to keep up with these clowns. My
editors are putting the final touches on "HUMPBACK" mountain as we speak. I just
need LurchKerns first betrothed to sign off on it, or do something off on it!!!
Richie
Rich mckinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Monday, December 10, 2007 at 13:55:22
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Stuart Kern: I don't have time to go to the beach around here, because these
ladies keep coming by to ask me how they should vote. And I'm not even a voting
consultant by profession.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Monday, December 10, 2007 at 13:09:21
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Thanks, Richie, but somehow I'm not so sure "Ya think?" is gonna' win me any
creative writing prizes. I only thing it might get me however, is another raft
of s--- from one of the liberated ladies who occasionally grace us with their
verbal report cards...this time admonishing me for calling silicone and botox
exhibitionist airheads "babes."
There's one thing good to say about them though....the babes, that is. In their
own way, they are doing their part for the environment. How? With all the
plastic in their bodies, when they die, they can be recycled, instead of
embalmed.
Night all!
Stuart Kern
- Monday, December 10, 2007 at 02:59:34
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What a fabulous, hilarious and thoughtful 50th birthday gift. Sorry I took
offense, Guy. I had no idea. Once the Other, Other Stuart sees the pictures, I'm
sure he will feel other than he did, just as the Other Stuart now does. Other
than that, one question: What's with the picture of Bill Murray's daily driver?
Stuart Kern
USA - Monday, December 10, 2007 at 02:33:53
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Here is Guy and Mary's gift to me
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img
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<center>And do Guy and I get residuals? No way! </center>
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<center> Eat your hearts out!</center>
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Bye bye.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Monday, December 10, 2007 at 01:49:30
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Billy Bak - Lorna Bobbitt....Nice!
Richie
Rich mckinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Monday, December 10, 2007 at 01:38:25
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Stuart Kern - The last line of your last posting was so subtle, it was freaking
brilliant! You are a writer my friend!!
richmckinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Monday, December 10, 2007 at 01:31:03
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Carry, Lorna Bobbit just called and asked for your address. Lurch, keep writing
if you want to keep me in diamonds, and Guy, I am going to put on my best
selling video tape tomorrow with Carol's consent. Stuart M., we close ranks with
you brother........I just hope you will buy Guy and my new movie.....and give us
your tailors name.
Carol, just one last photo......please!...........Guy was
right!,.........................every orifice in my body exploded when I opened
up the present he and Mary sent me for my birthday. Promise, no more photos
after this.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Monday, December 10, 2007 at 01:26:37
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Yes, Cary, I do believe you are wrong...and yet right too. Let me explain why I
feel that way.
First a little background. After a thirty-year career in business, I decided to
become an essayist. That was close to two years ago. Bob Brann and Bill
Bakaleinikoff, both talented and accomplished writers in their own right,
graciously gave me the encouragement I needed. This is not a passtime with me; I
write daily for several hours at a crack, taking my subjects seriously, but not
myself. As the second anniversary of my beginning this second career approaches,
I am getting closer to the day when I plan to open the big box holding all my
essays, select what I believe are the the best ones, and see if I can't get them
published or, at the very least, use them as a "resume" to become a contributing
essayist to various publications. Even if none of that comes to pass, I've had a
ball.
Now to your question...
As it happened, on Wednesday of this past week, the 5th, I wrote an essay
entitled "Seeing the Light...from Radio." What follows are excerpts from that
essay:
"It has been argued that radio, particularly in the case of political debates,
is perhaps a far better medium than television for the voting public to judge
and choose between candidates for high public office.
"The reasoning behind this argument is that radio provides a far clearer window
into the thoughts of the candidates on the issues of the day because they are
much more relaxed without having to concern themselves with how they look before
the non-blinking red eye of the television camera and are thus more likely to
unknowingly show more of themselves. Similarly, the listening public is not
distracted by the "style" of what they see on TV and can concentrate on the
"substance" of what they hear.
"And so it was for this voter at yesterday's National Public Radio-sponsored
debate by the Democratic Party presidential candidates, particularly as it
related to one of the front-runners. Thanks to radio, yesterday's Iowa debate
answered a question which had been nagging at me for a long time..."
The balance of the essay was highly political in nature and doesn't belong here.
However, I can not reiterate too strongly how valuable I found it being able to
only listen to the candidates.
From an historical perspective, even though television was still in its
laboratory infancy at the time and President Franklin Roosevelt went to great
lengths to conceal his paralyzing polio, his Fireside Chats over the radio were
like magic in building and maintaining enough of the public's confidence in his
leadership to get him elected four times. Whether that was good or bad is not
the point for the purpose of this discussion, only FDR's mastery of the radio
and the peace of mind he could create over the airwaves without anyone seeing
the couple hundred pounds of steel which substituted for his legs.
One more thing: I've got to say that your suggesting that women are less
informed or less commited to the political process than men are flies in the
face of the facts. Forget for the moment that Hillary Clinton is running for
President. How do you explain both of California's re-elected Senators being
women, as is the Speaker of the House, who need I remind you is right behind
Darth Vader in presidential succession?
Maybe the simple answer is that you've been spending too much time trying to
engage the buxom blonde babes on the beach at Playa del Rey in conversation. Ya
think?
Stuart Kern
- Monday, December 10, 2007 at 00:32:11
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Carol - Atder was funny ! H. Cary....You are lucky you live in Playa Del Rey...I
lived there for years, and I know there is a lot of sand. So you won't have to
make your knuckles bleed by dragging them on the asphalt.
Richie
Rich mckinney
sanity, USA - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 23:26:20
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Judi ... I really like the way Hillary dresses, so I think I'll vote for her!!!
;-)))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 22:07:35
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Just heard through the "grapevine" about Cary Stewart's posting a few days
back....scrolled down to believe what I heard !
All I can say, is Thank God women can vote....we live longer than you men, Cary,
and have the power to vote dinosaurs like you out of office ! Go Hilary.
Happy Holidays/Merry Christmas to all our Islander friends...Judi and Tom ( the
least Chauvinistic male I know !)Welch
Judi Hersh Welch
Pac Palisades, CA USA - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 21:42:10
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Hi Stuart: As regards Norman Mailer, although he promoted his writing as
literature, in my view, journalistic novels and political books don't qualify as
literature. He was illiterate in the sense that he was not writing literature,
not in the sense that he couldn't read and write. There a lot of books that
aren't literature.
As for how women's suffrage affects the political process, at least in my
experience the average female voter doesn't follow politics, economics, etc.,
and/or they vote based on input from their significant other and/or based on how
the candidate looks. And females outnumber males. This substantially renders
female suffrage a bit of a crazy and unpredictable and/or indecipherable quilt,
which could go any which a way. It seems that how the candidate wears his or her
hair, or how glibly he or she makes sound bites, has now become as important, or
even more important, than the candidate's thought processes and philosophy.
Heck, we might as well put the candidates in bathing suits, and call it a
debate. Am I wrong?
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 21:00:28
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And, besides, I'm supposed to refrain from all worthwhile liquids and food until
February or so anyhow.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 17:20:45
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H. Cary,
I don't think there's a recipe ANYWHERE that will make a GOOD margarita out of
ANY vodka. Now, one of the vintages from near the WPPSS plants I worked on in
eastern Waqshington might be a fair substitute. Wine or margaritas only!!
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 17:18:43
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As I recall, capture the flatulance is played by rapidly pulling the sheet up
over ones bed mates head after letting one rip. Another method was to have Mike
Hancock toss a feral cat under the sheets of Eddie Marcus's bed where he lay
naked and snoring. It worked better than any alarm clock...
MacGuyver
guy webb
USA - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 16:51:42
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Cary:
Norman Mailer may have been many things, but "illiterate" was hardly one of
them...not with having won two Pulitzer Prizes (I repeat that, DOS Pulitzers),
cinco National Book Award nominations and the Polk Award, among other literary
honors. A creep to be sure, but an illiterate one? I don't think so.
No offense intended, but what in heaven's name does Women's Suffrage have to do
with the efficacy of our political eletion process?
Stuart Kern
- Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 16:18:14
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Sorry, Billy, but as I recall, it was "Capture the Flatulent" you were so fond
of playing with the Dukes and a book of matches, not "Capture the Flag."
Stuart Kern
The Jockey Club, - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 15:51:54
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Stuart Kern: Must I suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune by being
compared to an illiterate woman hater like Norman Mailer? I love women, but it
does seem sometimes that after we have not only given them the right to own
property, but on top of that, the right to vote, that things have been all down
hill ever since.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 15:49:45
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Visit
www.nationalnightmare.com
It is a count down key chain showing the number of day, hours, minutes, and
seconds until Bush goes. $9.95 delivered.
guy webb
USA - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 14:21:16
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Stuart M, Stuart K, H.Cary Stewart, et. al.
My referrence to "Brokeback Mountain Men" had to do with a video I sent Brother
Bakaleinikoff for his birthday. It was suppossed to get a snot bubble out of
him, and nothing more.
Guido
guy webb
USA - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 14:05:41
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Lurch, my 1953 Ford was one of the cleanest cars around, you must have confused
my car's top and trunk with your underwear; remember when the Jason's used your
underwear as the flag when we played 'Capture the Flag' with the Dukes? We
always won.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 13:42:41
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Jerry; If you would like to kill two birds with one stone, there is a type of
vodka one can get which comes from Chernobyl. And speaking of mood stabilizers,
it seems to be that there are a lot of women, and men too, getting these
prescription addictive drugs. While I doubt that the statistics are available,
I'd hazard a guess that under Medicare, Med-Cal, and insurance policies, that
the U.S. Government and the insurance carriers are the biggest drug pushers
around. And yet they want to destroy all the opium in Afghanistan, instead of
selling it to the drug companies. There ought to be a law!
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 13:41:49
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The was supposed to read under my name:
The Other Stuart...
...and the Pariah of Palos Verdes
(What's left of my hand-eye coordination ain't worth beans!)
Stuart Kern
- Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 13:18:48
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STOP IT, STUART, IT IS BOTH UNBECOMING AND INAPPROPRIATE! THIS IS NOT THE
NATIONAL REVIEW. IT IS A TRAIN TAKIN' A SENTIMENTAL JOURNEY HOME AND ALL THE
PASSENGERS ARE OLD FRIENDS, INCLUDING THE PRINCE OF THE PALISADES.
The Other Stuart...
...and Pa\irascourgeof P, - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 13:14:10
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Kerns,
I think Mr. Webb's comments were probably directed towards me, the resident
faggot. Oh well, we're used to it.
Palisadian Stuart
Earth - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 12:25:46
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While we can joke about it, the truth is that the process we have come to for
selecting a President is not a very good one. Probably the Congress could pick
one better than a popular vote can. Probably the best presidential selection of
the last 50 years was not by popular vote (Gerald Ford). Now, if one is
selected, he or she has to be an actor, or good looking, or "decisive" like a
burro, or be endorsed by Oprah or Barbra Streisand, or be cleared by an Iowa
Caucus vote, or be pro choice, or anti choice, or promise to give away the
store, or make good sound bites, or promise to do away with taxes, or spend
millions on commercials, etc. The fact is that most people aren't informed very
well. This is why the founding fathers didn't think it was a particularly good
idea to have a president be picked by popular vote. And the indications are that
they were pretty wise people.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 12:07:50
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I've been too busy the last several weeks to bring my laptop into town for an
internet connection, so I've been missing out on what's going on here.
I opened my email account and it was too full to deal with it, but this morning
I found this mail from Tony Childs and wondered when Jill Salisbury's next
birthday will be. I can't wait to see the photos of her in this new suit...
Tony sends me these challenges, but I'm going to have to pass on this one.
http://www.biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=4262
Carol, the website looks great, as usual... thank you for always doing such a
nice job of decorating it.
Bobby Brann
Wellton, AZ USA - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 10:47:14
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Stuart - Please excuse my attempts at humor. I am afraid that I offend as often
as I amuse. One of the joys in my life is when I can make someone laugh and I'm
afraid sometimes I work too hard at it. No one comes to this site looking to be
abused, and that was not my intention.
Guy
guy webb
USA - Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 08:14:33
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Guy: EXCUSE ME?
Stuart Kern
- Sunday, December 09, 2007 at 02:51:52
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Guido,
No comments from me before because Dec. 7th, 3 years ago was the day I had to
take my Evie to a hospital and insist they help me find a facility to care for
her because I could no longer do it alone, and I try to forget some things but
life won't let me.
What I feel each time you've spoken of your Father or Mother is hard to write,
but sadness and pride (respect) at the same time is as close as I can come. This
goes for all that have written about their family. My Dad didn't serve in the
military at all, don't know why. I loved and revered him above all others until
I met Evie. We lost Dad 31 years ago this coming Jan. 19th. Glad he's with the
Lord, but, at the same time, wish he was here to kick my butt into line again,
even at almost 65. Now I gotta stop and think about falling down for a while.
It's cold and I'm tired. 'Night all.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Saturday, December 08, 2007 at 23:44:15
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Richie,
Unfortunately there are more than one or two of us that know what you have and
continue to go thru with your beloved Mother and our hearts are strongly with
you and her. IF....... I were the only one that knows, we'd be truly
blessed..... but there are others, precious friends; buddies; classmates; that
hold you and yours up to a loving God in prayer. Now, I know there are MANY
viewpoints represented here, but we all know love and caring, for each other and
those around us. I try not to preach my beliefs and won't easily accept anyone
elses preaching their beliefs when counter to mine, but I harbor and attempt to
send out love toward all here. Well, almost all.......... NO-ONE'S PER......
(da**, hate cliches), oh, well, you know that I wish I had better imagery to
express my thoughts(?). {Only joking. Some are just more difficult than others.
;-)) ;-)) }
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Saturday, December 08, 2007 at 23:26:48
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No comments about Pearl Harbor yesterday...
I can never forget December 7th, 1941, as it was the date of my conception
(according to my Mom), and the tenth anniversary of my Father's passing.
Thank God, my Mother is still strong, cognicent, financial y, mentaly and
physically able.
I am truly honored to have been born where I was, when I was, to who I was. If
Alzhiemer's overtakes me, I hope one of you steps forward and silences me.
I love my family and those of you that I have experienced. Jerry, be well, and
know the power of our prayers. Barbara, unlock the Caps lock and experience the
power of your new 'puter. Billy, discover what magical mystery pills we have
waiting us for free via Medicare. Stuart and Stewart, borrow "Brokeback Mountain
Men" from our Billy and ride off into the sunset together.
For those of us whom have never experienced parenthood, ADOPT... Bradjuliena
have it right... Until you look outside of yourself and encompass an off-spring,
you are at a dead-end...
Our children are our future. Invest wisely...
Guy
guy webb
USA - Saturday, December 08, 2007 at 23:07:46
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p.s. Yes, that animal was my first wife. Half parasite, half predator, all
knowing. I miss her like a bad cold.
Lurch
- Saturday, December 08, 2007 at 22:38:41
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Great family posting, as usual, Richie.
That last part about Bonnie having to clean your son's
already-cleaned-condo-before-Mom's-arrival made me laugh.
That's because my 24-year-old son moved back home a few months ago. You know,
the one I was sure was gonna' be an astronaut because he spent so much time in
college taking up space?
Well, it's great having him here again...just as long as I don't have to go into
his room, as I did late this afternoon. Jeez, What a mess! It looked as though a
dozen DEA agents (and their canines) went through the place with a fine tooth
comb...after the steam shovel finished. How and why anybody who knows better
lives like that it beyond me. You should see his car though. If a fly landed on
the hood, it would break all its legs. Go figure!
You know, that reminds me of Billy's '53 Ford convertible with all the holes in
the canvas top. He was such a slob that none of us would even consider climbing
into the trunk long enough to get into the Olympic or Studio Drive-In for free.
We all paid full-price and were glad to do it. That way we knew we wouldn't have
to shower BEFORE we got home.
Anyway, sorry to hear about your Mom's condition. It's got to be heart-breaking.
Fortunately, my family has been spared that kind of pain, at least so far. My
heart goes out to those, like you, who are not so lucky.
Stuart Kern
- Saturday, December 08, 2007 at 22:31:45
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Bonnie is in Maui visiting our son Dan and his roommate. She left Thursday and
is coming back Tuesday. I desperately wanted to go (Have not seen him since
March) but last minutes issues with my Mom's health prevented me from going at
the last minute. Mom is 89 and is in the end stages of severe Alzheimers. She
got so bad that they had to move her into a Skilled Nursing facility. They refer
to that as a "SNF". l asked Bonnie. please, I don't care how sick I am, Don't
ever put me into place whose initals spell "SNUF". Mom blew into WLA during the
War and was Rosie the Riveter. She and my stepfather had a wonderful life. My
Stepdad was a union carpenter and mom worked as a lab tech. They made a nice
income and by the time I graduated from Uni they had a lovely home in Mar Vista
(Yeah, we still own it!) a boat and a motorhome and property at the Colorado
River. They traveled the continental U.S. plus drove all the way to Cabo and to
Alaska Twice each. They were Square dancers and traveled all over with other
couples. They went dancing every other Saturday Night for years.
On one trip to Cabo they were traveling on a dirt road and an animal (Probably
Lurch's first wife) of some sort jumped out in front of them. My Dad drove into
a ditch and they were stuck in fine sand. (And it was not a main highway.) They
pretty much figured they had eaten their last Carne Asada Boooooooorito rice n
beans! After a couple of hours a large band of Mexican cowboys arrived on the
scene. They said not a word. Only "El Jefe" spoke. He directed them to hitch the
truck and trailer up to their horses and pulled them onto stable ground. They
would not accept any money but did quaff down the Cerveza my dad offered them.
How in the hell did I get from Maui to Mexico. Anyway, I talked to Bonnie
yesterday and she is having a great time and they were treating her like a
Queen. The Boys planned a lot of activities for her. However, I talked to her
this morning and she said she was cleaning their Condo. I asked her why they had
not been cleaned it before she got there. She said....That's the sad part..They
Did!
Chow Brudda
Richie
Richie
Rich mckinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Saturday, December 08, 2007 at 18:04:38
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Cary - Uh, What?
Richie
Rich McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Saturday, December 08, 2007 at 13:44:45
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So Cary, how long do you plan to stay celibate?
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Saturday, December 08, 2007 at 13:17:16
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Jerry - It!s hard to type when those keys are all wet and slippery....We have
probably all been there! I bet ol' Jimmy Moorman is looking down to see if you
want to go to lunch with him and some Sweet Hottie, don't you think?
Richie
Rich McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Saturday, December 08, 2007 at 12:48:22
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Vernette,
To include me in anything associated with your precious Parrish is more humbling
than anything else I know of. May you have true comfort as sweet as your heart
shows you deserve. Our daughters will never be away from our love and the love
of a loving God. More to say but tears are stopping me. Later.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Saturday, December 08, 2007 at 11:05:11
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jerry, you are in my prayers! your radiation machine(which was designed for
prostrate cancer is also the machine that they used on my daughter for her brain
tumor. i am all to familiar with it., take care of yourself and know that you
are though of and loved... to all, no matter what your beliefs have a wonderful
holiday season and hold your loved ones close (did i mis-spell anyt5hing?>) love
to all vernette/missy
vernette/;missy tatum
malibu, ca USA - Saturday, December 08, 2007 at 10:53:54
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I am quite sure that Cary is joking, RIGHT CARY???
Jerry, as Melantha said, "Be Well". I know you HATE to dwell on "you" on our
message board, but I want you to know that you are in my prayers for a safe and
speedy recovery. Stuart, bet that one shortened your "honey-do" list!! ;-)
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Saturday, December 08, 2007 at 09:41:37
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I just read Cary's last posting. Wow! It sure didn't take Norman Mailer long to
find a new body to occupy, did it?
What is it with some men who just don't get or cannot accept the fact that, like
virtually all other species with whom we share this planet, the female of the
human species is the superior one by virtually all criteria, save physical
strength? These are the same men who mistake dominance for superiority.
Okay, honey, did you read what I just wrote to my friends?NOW can I have some?
Stuart Kern
- Saturday, December 08, 2007 at 02:37:20
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Hey Sweet Jerry,
You glow in the dark and it's from your bright heart! We're thinking of you and
sending our caring thoughts. Hang in there, be well, and know we're with you.
The Bobricks of Bend
Bend, OR USA - Saturday, December 08, 2007 at 00:52:07
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CARY: Uh, what?
M & M
Mike & Melantha Bobrick
Bend, OR USA - Saturday, December 08, 2007 at 00:48:47
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It sometimes seems, from reading the newspapers, that God is getting revenge on
us for giving women the right to vote.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Friday, December 07, 2007 at 23:12:16
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Barbara,
Now that you have a top of the line 'puter, do you want me to re-send the photos
of your parents former home in the Ventura Keys?
Herman
guy webb
ventura, USA - Friday, December 07, 2007 at 21:52:48
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Lurch is just mad because he has the lower bunk.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Friday, December 07, 2007 at 13:32:13
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Jerry:
"Lame" doesn't cut it in describing your E.T. and glow-in-the-dark wisecracks
about yourself. Try "GRIT" instead; you've got it!
Stuart Kern
- Friday, December 07, 2007 at 03:26:08
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Barbara:
Don't get taken in by Willy Sutton Bakaleinikoff. The only reason why he asked
you to call him collect is because he is entitled to only one phone call...and
he is still trying to decide if it should be to his lawyer, dealer or bookie.
Stuart Kern
- Friday, December 07, 2007 at 03:14:44
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Barbara, ask Carol for my e-mail and I will fix your problem, the head of Acer
Tech (VP) used to be my next door neighbor in Miramar. I think your problem is
very simple. Actually, I can probably do it better over the phone so have Carol
give you my phone number too, you can call collect. Billy
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Friday, December 07, 2007 at 01:57:11
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Barbara,
No competent computerist here, but about my "glowing" remarks, they have been
totally lame attempts at humor. I had prostate cancer surgery in July and it
failed, leaving me with only one option left (in my particular case) of
radiation therapy treatments and I started this last Monday so tried to laff
instead of being scared with the lame E.T. and glowing comments.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Friday, December 07, 2007 at 01:11:43
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I am so happy! I have to share this with you all. I bought a brand new Acer
computer and have had such trouble getting tech support. I just could never get
the email tech forms to load. Well I accidently found an Acer CANADA web site
and it actually worked! Whoopee!! Acer's tech support is LOUSY. Their 1-800
number only works during regular business hours. I'm working during regular
business hours. Hello??? Maybe I can get some help now on the Canadian site. I
sure hope so, the computer is really beautiful except the lousy keyboard showing
the wrong symbols - the letters and numbers are fine - or I wouldn't be writing
this message at all (my old keyboard does the same thing so it must originate
with something besides the keyboards - any computer geeks have any ideas?
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Thursday, December 06, 2007 at 23:19:27
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CARY: Uh huh.
RICHIE: Think I was kidding with my last posting? Guess who went to school in
Oregon? Brownies, anyone?
Stuart Kern
- Thursday, December 06, 2007 at 02:59:26
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Jerry,
I have been absent for a while and have missed the reason that you glow in the
dark. Would you mind just explaining briefly what is going on with you.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, December 05, 2007 at 22:46:38
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Hello Axis of Unihi: Since we all wonder about some of the weirdos whom we elect
to public office, and about some of the weirdos whom are running for President,
we might take to heart the suggestion of Daniel G. Amen, neuropsychiatrist, and
author of "Change Your Brain, Change Your Life", whom suggests in an op ed piece
in today's L.A. Times, that the brain pathologies of three of our last four
presidents could have been detected before their elections if they had been
given certain brain scan tests. What he is saying is that maybe these brain
scans should be required for Presidential candidates, since their screw ups
impact so many people.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Wednesday, December 05, 2007 at 22:28:29
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I have mentioned before on this site that I have had problems connecting to this
site. The other day I got an Email from the manufacturer of my PC that there was
an upgrade availeable that would improve my computers performance. I took the
chance and installed it. Wow what a difference, the connection is almost
immediate not just to this site bur all sites that I visit. I took a big chance
doing this however because sometimes hackers use similar ploys to gain access to
peoples computers. All I can say so far so good, if i dissapear for a while it
will probably because of a sleeper virus hidden in the programing. I took the
chance because the operating /conneting time was taking as much as five munutes
just to connect to any site, now only about a second.
Hal Thorburn
Orange, Ca USA - Wednesday, December 05, 2007 at 15:49:49
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Richie:
As seen from Lurch's perch, they're also keeping it a secret from the DEA.
Stuart Kern
- Wednesday, December 05, 2007 at 03:20:01
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Mike and Melantha - Glad you're OK! I think the fact that so many Islanders live
in Oregon speaks to their intelligence and sophistication...It is an incredibly
beautiful place...I have never met any one from Oregon who did not want to move
back as soon as they could. I think you guys are keeping a nice little secret
from the rest of us....Good for you.
Richie
Rich McKinney
san diego, USA - Tuesday, December 04, 2007 at 21:38:51
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Rich,
Thanks for the query on our well being. Those of us that live in Central Oregon
are OK. Some snow on the weekend with a bit of a breeze, some rain Monday with a
bigger breeze and a beautiful, sunny spring like day today. We have the Cascades
between us and the coast and we're actually high desert.
For those on the West side of the Cascades, who knows.
The bad news for us is Mt. Bachelor has little snow. Hiking is fun but we're
ready to ski.
M & M
Mike & Melantha Bobrick
Bend, CA USA - Tuesday, December 04, 2007 at 20:35:15
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Right up front, I admit I don't have a bright or glowing personality, BUT, now
that I've started my treatments I can serve as a nite light for the light
challenged. And, don't twist this around Bill or Lurch or Rich, all I have to do
is lift my shirt a bit and the glow from my belly should allow for safe transit
after dark. I DO work BEST for cute ladies, now that I think about it. Oh,
well..... just call me E.T. Always have been a space-case anyhow.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Tuesday, December 04, 2007 at 18:44:41
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Oregon Islanders - You guys doing OK with the flooding up there....I hope so.
Interesting that Rick Neuheisel has a Bachelors from Ucla And a law degree from
USC. Great UCLA Quarterback!
Richie
Rich mckinney
San Carlos, USA - Tuesday, December 04, 2007 at 14:27:25
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Rick Neuheisel is the guy. He's proven that he can beat USC. He's even beat the
NCAA. His offense looked good against the Pats last night. Pay no attention to
the fact that Dorrell was catching his passes. He’s a gambler- that’s what is
needed. Karl would not take chances.
Barry Bolger
Henderson, Nv USA - Tuesday, December 04, 2007 at 14:11:27
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Maybe so Lurch, but i also sing the 'Sound of Music' at the top of my voice as I
drive through the Moss Beach Alps........naked.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, December 04, 2007 at 12:25:07
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Billy:
Paul Theriot Schmeriot! Admit it...you only came back on-line because the
straight man in our Olsen & Johnson duo is getting too many laughs.
Stuart:
The only reason I came back on again is to share an image which, if I don't, I
will be denying others of your friends the opportunity of going to sleep tonight
with a smile on their faces. Here it is...
The reason why you didn't know who now umemployed Karl Dorrell is was because,
as you described in your not altogether honest Sunday posting, while the
USC/UCLA game was going on, you were driving through the Santa Monica Mountains
listening to music.
Tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, goddamn it! You
weren't "listening" to anything except your own voice as you were driving along,
top down, wind in your face, totally absorbed doing in your best Julie Andrews
imitation, singing at the top of your lungs in a findernails-across-a-blackboard
voice only someone with autism (or a mother) could love:
"The hills are alive with the Sound of Music..."
I'm not even gonna' ask what you were wearing at the time.
Thanks, Stuart, for letting me make this joke. You're a good sport and a good
sort...not to mention obviously being a good pal to your autistic young friend.
Good night!
Stuart Kern
- Tuesday, December 04, 2007 at 02:44:35
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Correction: installment three is post 7851. (see post below)
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, December 04, 2007 at 01:52:57
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I have been having fun on my other forum with my new miniature diecast car
serial. If you want to check it out go to www.diecast.org and click on the 1/18
Forum in the icons on the header. I write under Paul Theriot (my column). scroll
down to post #7793 for part one, #7808 for part two and near the top post #7793
installment three.
Now you can see why they call me crazy Billy.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, December 04, 2007 at 01:50:23
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That's enough foolishness for one night. Besides, it's time for my enema. Happy
Trails! Just watch your step.
Stuart Kern
- Tuesday, December 04, 2007 at 01:47:22
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Why doesn't someone check to see if Red Sanders is still dead?
Stuart Kern
- Tuesday, December 04, 2007 at 01:38:55
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Stuart M.....Up until a few hours ago Dorrell was UCLA's Football coach...I hate
to see anyone get fired....but he really needed to go....I LOVE Pete Carroll not
only because I'm an SC fan but I loved him when he was with the Patriots.
Who would you Bruin fans like to see head up UCLA?
Hugs, Diane
Diane Graveline Johnson
Huntington Beach , Ca USA - Tuesday, December 04, 2007 at 01:21:36
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Personally, I was partial McKeevers for suds and The Pantry for chow...at least
until I saw a cucaracha the size of a Buick taking two steps forward and one
step back across a bread tray at about 4 o'clock one morning after an all-night,
pre-final, cramming session. You're right, Stuart: Those were the days alright.
More sourdough, anybody?
Stuart Kern
- Tuesday, December 04, 2007 at 01:17:45
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Guido,
Who is Karl Dorrell?
smuller
ppcalusa, The Third Planet - Monday, December 03, 2007 at 23:23:15
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Yes...the "Nine-O" and "Skip and Go Naked"s. The only way to go on Friday
nights! And what about Woody's Smorgasburger. Rowdy times continued into the mid
60'S! Then there was the Shrine Auditorium...I saw James Brown there in 1966.
Also the 32nd Street Market, which was our late night pantry and liquor cabinet.
Was the owner's name Morie? Good times, no matter what expanded/fogged our
vision!
S. Muller
ppcalusa, Earth - Monday, December 03, 2007 at 23:21:22
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R.I.P.
Karl Dorrell
R.I.P.
(retire in peace...)
One man's meat is another man's poison...
Guido
guy webb
USA - Monday, December 03, 2007 at 22:19:52
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Yeah, Judi, you, me and everybody else reading these memories through
rose-colored (reading) glasses.
Stuart Kern
Magna Cum Nada Graduate of USC, - Monday, December 03, 2007 at 19:32:11
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Stuart....OHMIGOD....the "901" club aka "The Nine-0" !!! I'd
forgotten....remember that awful thing they made called "The Skip and Go" (
Naked)? I got sicker than a dog on that thing ! Did it have beer, gin, sweet and
sour, and whatever else? I still cannot look at gin or beer !
Also miss "Julie's"...that was there when my parents were at SC. Oh...to be
young again...and know what I do now !
Judi Hersh Welch
Pac Pal, USA - Monday, December 03, 2007 at 15:57:08
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Thanks, Judi. As the line from Robert Bolt's "A Man for All Seasons" says, "You
do more good than you know." How?
As an essayist who spends a minimum of five hours a day writing, sometimes much
more, it is interesting (at least to me) where the sources of what I choose to
write about come from. The title of my next essay?
"THE CULT OF CELEBRITY - HOW ONE MAN'S GOD IS ANOTHER'S GOLDEN CALF &
VICE-VERSA."
Fight on!
Stuart Kern
- Sunday, December 02, 2007 at 16:28:17
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They're watching us...
Google "Ganna Walska AND Hollywood"
On the 24th page, second entry (#232) is the entire Islander message board with
posts beginning April 21, 2006 and ending December 31, 2006...
Who knew?
guy webb
USA - Sunday, December 02, 2007 at 14:05:42
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Thanks, Judi, for sharing the SC memories. Here are a couple more, as they
relate to Iron Mike Garrett:
Right after he won the Heisman, the school set-up a large room, almost a hall,
in which all of Mike's athletic awards and trophies were put on display. It was
mind-boggling there were so many of them. As I recall, his baseball trophies far
outnumbered his numerous football ones...and with good reason. What a baseball
player he was!
As you said in so many words, the nice thing about Mike Garrett is that he has
remained Nice Guy Mike Garrett after the Heisman, his professional football
career and now as Pete Carroll's boss. Man, was that a gamble that paid off!
I have always been amused by for want of another term might be called the cult
of celebrity...how perfectly rational, intelligent people go gah-gah at the
sight of someone in the public eye. This leads to my second remembrance...
Again, it was shortly after Mike won his Heisman Trophy. I had just left Hoffman
Hall on my way up to the 901 for an inch-thick burger and beer with friends.
Mike was walking down the sidewalk in the opposite direction. As he passed the
Music School building, I couldn't help but notice the deference being paid to
him. It was like Moses parting the Red Sea. He took it all in stride, of course.
That is not what made the incident so memorable. What did was who was walking
about five steps behind him and who no one seemed to notice, transfixed as they
were on their Golden Calf. It was a Real God, Jascha Heifetz.
See ya' in Pasadena!
S.C. Kern
- Sunday, December 02, 2007 at 13:33:45
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I love hearing all the SC--UCLA banter! I never really went to college, though I
did attend ASU for one semester and tried to understand trig and collected
un-employment money from the state of California---party time in the desert! Up
here in the North West we are different forms of animals--The COUGERS and the
DAWGS. In fact the SEAHAWKS will be playing in 40 min. What is that anyway about
naming teams after animals?? Looks a though we will have a white xmas this
year--we did yesterday!! for thoes of you who are still among the working
class,have a super holiday time. Pablo El Pescador
paul groesse
P.B., WA USA - Sunday, December 02, 2007 at 12:31:31
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Stuart and Stuart....
Wanted to add some trivia about Mike Garrett that you'll enjoy !
I met Mike when I was a Sophomore....he was the new sensational Tailback at that
time.....he was a good friend of a sorority sister of mine.....we were all in
Man and Civ together and studied for finals together at his apartment. He was
such a sharp kid. Anyway , as you know, he became our first Heisman Trophy
winner and went on to become our first African American Athletic Director.
A few years ago, Tom and I went to a Cardinal and Gold Football Awards Banquet
and in walked Mike ( now a big VIP). I nervously approached him and introduced
myself....he remembered ! He was sooo gracious ! He even said, "I wonder how
good old Dr. Berry is" !!!
What a great guy.....especially since he hired Pete Carroll ! ( I hope this
isn't a duplicate post.....I wrote it once and forgot to hit
"submit".....apologies if so...)
Judi Hersh Welch
Pac Pal, USA - Sunday, December 02, 2007 at 09:31:23
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Stuart....forget to add some Mike Garrett trivia you'll enjoy !
Mike was a new freshman star tailback when we met. He was a good friend of a
sorority sister of mine and we were in Dr. Berry's Man and Civ class. Anyway, we
studied for finals together in his apartment. Such a modest guy ( who
non-Trojans may not know...won the Heisman and is now Athletic Director of SC).
Tom and I went to a Cardinal and Gold Football Awards Banquet at the Beverly
Hilton a few years ago and Mike walked in ( now a really big VIP !). I walked up
to him and said, "Congratulations on your wonderful success in life, etc. etc.".
He was so very gracious and when I said, "Remember Darylanne and our Man and Civ
studying"? He, said, "Oh yes ! How could I forget good old Dr. Berry" and gave
me a hug !
Gave me chills !!! Super guy....especially since he hired Pete Carroll !!!!!!
Judi Hersh Welch
Pac Pal, USA - Sunday, December 02, 2007 at 09:22:01
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Dear Trojans and Bruins.....we were there yesterday, as we are every
year.....crazy loyal Trojans fans !
Thanks for your posts, Guy, Stuarts, and all.....
I always LOVE this game and the tradition ! Jill Salisbury Tolliver, Bobbie
Barton Pajot and I have razzed each other yearly and used to tailgate together
with husbands ( during that unbearably difficult 8 year UCLA run !!!!!). This
AM, at 8:30 I got my two early calls from Bobbie and Jill offering their wishes
for my demise, as always ! I love the rivalry !
The most moving part of the pre-game was when the Seniors ran out on the field.
Mario Danelo's family ran out with the Seniors.....goosebumps....he was the
young man, our All-American field goal kicker who fell off the cliffs in San
Pedro last January. Sad....our goal posts all have the #19 wrapped around them
as do the player's jersey's.
My parents went to SC and it was always assumed I would go there. My Dad was a
water-boy for the Howard Jones teams of the mid-30's ! I have a picture of him
on the steps of Bovard as a Freshman.....so cool.
I will never forget 1965....I had just graduated. Jill was going to have a
post-game party. I was young and too emotional to go after Gary Beban hit that
long bomb to Althofter ( may be wrong spelling) to beat us in the last seconds !
Oh....the memories !
My Dad, who was loyal to SC football until the end of his life , was in a
hospital bed in Dec. 98, dying of cancer, and we watched the SC/UCLA game
together. I still miss calling him during a game to discuss a call, a fumble, a
play. He gave me my love of sports which I've passed along to my daughters.
Love, Judi SC'65
Fight On ! Beat the Bruins ! I've already ordered my Rose Bowl tix....
Happy Holidays to all the Islanders !
Judi Hersh Welch
Pac Palisades, CA USA - Sunday, December 02, 2007 at 09:14:34
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Sorry about that! Try this!
The only way I can get through writing this message is to do a "Pablo el
Pescador" type of typing and expression…free style. Thank you Paul. And takns
Missy, for providing the spelling liberation!)
I attended both USC and UCLA, and lived both in Exposition Park and Pacpalcalusa
(Pacific Palisades California U.S.A.) Both the USC and UCLA academic experiences
were life changing and very enjoyable.
In the mid-60's I attended the USC School of Cinema and lived in a duplex in the
residential block that was between the campus and Vermont ($85/mo.). This area
is now part of the campus.
We (Chris Rubin, me, and the Sigma Kai and the rest of the inhabitants of
“Fraternity Row” attended every USC home game and we even went to Berkeley to
see games. We were really into drinking spirits and partying…er….make that
“School Spirit.” Mike Garrett was The Man then. It was a great adventure living
in the inner city, especially as the Watts Riots had just occurred before I
started in September 1965. I think I'd rather live in the Palisades, now that
I’m getting older and settling in for the long run. I have attended only one
football game since and have not watched a complete game on TV.
In the mid-90's I attended UCLA, took graduate courses in psychology and
education, and lived in the Palisades. I never attended a UCLA football game,
but I’m the greatest supporter of the UCLA campus and the cultural activities
there. It’s truly the Wonder of the World in Westwood! I always loved the
feeling of going to the UCLA campus. I feel reverent there. It's like an ancient
Greco-Roman capital, where important issues are discussed and the truth is
sought… a seat of power and good. When I was at Uni, my godmother, Gail Wells,
was the secretary of the Dean of the UCLA Law School. She let me use her library
pass, which got access to the stacks in all of the libraries. I could just go
and get my own books and browse all the books anywhere I wanted! I felt like I
was in the center of knowledge.
I didn’t watch the USC/UCLA game. Instead, I spent the day working with a
15-year-old autistic friend, driving through the Santa Monica Mountains and
listening to the Best of the Eagles, The Best of the Platters and Bob Dylan’s
“Modern Times” (which, by the way, I think is a masterpiece.)
Peace and Love to You All
Stuart M
Pacpalcalusa (a small village in the eastern Pacific, north of Mexico), Earth -
Sunday, December 02, 2007 at 00:08:57
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The only way I can get through writing this message is to do a
Stuart M <<a
href="mailto:smuller@earthlink.net">smuller@earthlink.net</a>>
Pacpalcalusa (a small village in the eastern Pacific, north of Mexico), USA -
Sunday, December 02, 2007 at 00:03:39
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ooSturch and all other USC fans.
Yours was the better team and deserved to win.
I will be rooting for the Trojans at the Rose Bowl on January 1st.
I would like to suggest that we engage in the Islander tail gate party to top
them all at the Rose Bowl next year on January 1st, 2009, when BOTH teams may
possibly claim it as a HOME game... :)
Can you IMAGINE?????????????????????
Well played USC.
GO BRUINS
Guy Webb
USA - Saturday, December 01, 2007 at 22:14:45
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Well, Guido, I guess the Bruins mantra going into today's game, "Wait 'till last
year" didn't quite pan out, did it?
That's okay though because the television announcers in the booth and the
half-time, overweight, second-guessing aging jocks hired to sit behind their
boomerang-shaped desk and fill time between Capital One commercials all got it
only half-right:
Yes, the USC/UCLA cross-town rivalry is always a hard-fought one, but it's a
friendly and fun-filled one.....not one characterized by outright hatred, like
the USC/Notre Dame one. That annual war goes all the way back to the Howard
Jones/Knute Rockne era.
I'd like to say one more thing: If UCLA had won today and gone to the Rose Bowl,
this is one Trojan among many who would be rooting for them to win and win big.
Stuart C. Kern
- Saturday, December 01, 2007 at 20:32:00
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For me UCLA was a better University....
....but I did love seeing all my friends and relatives at USC (Brentwood East)
Lets settle this here and now.................
I am playing for the UCLA team in a spell off
UCLA RULES..."UCLA RULES" IS OUR ANSWER...Yea correct for UCLA...10 points
Now for USC unscramble this word
CSU...answer UCS,,,,no incorrect
UCLA 10
USC ( the correct answer) 0
NEXT PLAYER...........................
Gary Hale
San Carlos, Sonora Mexico - Saturday, December 01, 2007 at 16:11:17
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p.s.
There was one other way in which SC had it all over UCLA in my book. I remember
sitting in classes in the Exposition Park-facing School of Business and having
the fragrance of the thousands of roses between the Coliseum and Exposition
Boulevard drift in through the open windows, particularly in the springtime.
Talk about intoxicating!
S.C. K.
- Saturday, December 01, 2007 at 14:40:05
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GARY:
I went to both. I grew-up two blocks from UCLA and spent countless hours over
the years on the campus dreaming about going to college there. However, when I
finally did, one semester with what seemed like 10,000 students in lecture halls
and seeing the listed professors in my other classes only when their teaching
assistants got sick was NOT my idea of higher education...spite of the fact, as
I remember it, UCLA tuition was only about 10% of what it cost to go to SC.
Was it worth the money difference from an educational point of view? Of course
not. Nevertheless, there was something about going to SC that was "special", for
want of a better word, which is hard to describe. It wasn't the Greek, rah-rah
experience enjoyed by many other fellow Uni graduates because I decided to pass
on all that stuff, having pretty much had my fill of "Animal House" as a Jason
at Uni. No, I think it was just the feeling of being part of the college in
which, as about a ten-year-old, I was taken to an SC football game for the first
time and saw that magnificent white horse come out of the tunnel and on to the
floor of the Coliseum at full gallop. I remember it made my heart leap. The only
thrill I can compare it to since is seeing the Blue Angels perform.
I don't know if that answers your question, Gary, but it's the best I can do.
GUIDO:
There is no denying UCLA's impressive number of National Championships,
particularly considering the almost invincible basketball dynasty begun under
John Wooden. However, we're talking knockdown, bruising, grind-it-out FOOTBALL
here, not b-ball, and SC's dominance, starting way back in Howard Jones' time,
is overwhelming.
If you question this, check out page 8 in the Sports Section of our mutual
newspaper of choice for an eye-opening comparison. Here's a sampling...
Football National Championships: USC 11 & UCLA 1
Heisman Trophy Winners: USC 7 & UCLA 1
Bowl Wins: USC 29 - UCLA 13
College Football Hall of Fame: USC 35 & UCLA 11
All-Americans: USC 102 & UCLA 87
Which is the better school, at least at the undergraduate level? In measuring
the academic quality of its graduate football athletes, UCLA gets the nod with
27 Football Academic All-Americans compared to SC's 22. Still, that is not a big
gap and it has been closing in recent years, as SC has evolved from being an NFL
Farm into being a highly-respected educational institution.
ENJOY THE GAME, ONE & ALL! Watching it from the stands or on television is one
of life's simple pleasures, regardless of who you're rooting for.
S.C. Kern
- Saturday, December 01, 2007 at 14:13:45
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Am I the only Islander to have attended both UCLA and USC ?
If there are other Islanders who attended both schools lets have a vote amoung
the dual "attendees"...to see which school was the best!
In athletic events I always win when USC and UCLA play...I went to the winning
school!!!!
Gary Hale
San Carlos, Sonora Mexico - Saturday, December 01, 2007 at 11:13:19
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Sturch,
I can understand your misguyded affinity for USC. Our maid graduated from there,
and several well received films have been made by former students. That having
been said, UCLA is the ONLY institute of higher learning to have achieved the
distiction of earning over 100 National championships. As Ranger Bill has
famously stated, "Trojans are excellent for containing the riffraff, and little
else"...
Guido
guy webb
USA - Saturday, December 01, 2007 at 02:42:01
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Guido Mio:
Where is it you suggest the Bruins go because it sure as hell ain't gonna' be to
the Rose Bowl game...unless, of course, they buy tickets.
Sturch
aka S.C. Kern
- Friday, November 30, 2007 at 23:31:36
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R.I.P.
EVEL KNIEVIL
R.I.P.
He attempted to jump the fountains at Caesars Palace 40 years ago next month
while Mary and I were on our Honeymoon.
Sturch, I took your advise and am anxiously awaiting my first issue of the Daily
Worker. In the meantime, I will continue to follow your illustrious Letter to
the Editor career, even though it requires searching through pages and pages of
the treen sized type usually associated with LTTE department postings. Your last
foray was awarded the #1 Award for the use of "one" three times in the same
sentence...
GO BRUINS
guy webb
USA - Friday, November 30, 2007 at 18:42:03
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As usual, this is off-point, but thought y'all might get a kick outta some neat
airplane photos. Especially the first set. Wonder how he missed all the boats?
AND, if the pics are REAL?
07 San Francisco Fleetweek Photo Gallery
http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1a/
07 Nellis AFB Air Show pics
http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1b/
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Friday, November 30, 2007 at 12:06:31
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Stuart and Guy...I really enloyed the article about the Palisades....THANK YOU
!!! I love "Google"
Hugs, Diane
Diane Graveline Johnson
Huntington Beach, Ca USA - Friday, November 30, 2007 at 11:12:55
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Stuart, et. al.
Google
NY Times AND Pacific Palisades
First link is great review dated 11/25/07
"A Scenic Los Angeles Enclave, Without Glitter - New York Times
Thanks Stu,
Guido
guy webb
USA - Friday, November 30, 2007 at 04:27:11
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Sorry about the bad link. I Hope this works!
:
http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/11/25/travel/25next.html?ei=5070&en=c99eae861da01d0a&ex=1196830800&adxnnl=1&emc=eta1&adxnnlx=1196359232-ZpkHOy7DnNYllT3Fx2fcWQ
Stuart
Pacoalcalusa, Earth - Thursday, November 29, 2007 at 13:04:35
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Hey all,
Check out the nice article on the Palisades in the N.Y. Times!
:
http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/11/25/travel/25next.html?ex=1196830800&en=c99eae861da01d0a&ei=5070&emc=eta1
Stuart
Home Base, Earth - Thursday, November 29, 2007 at 12:59:51
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Guido:
You might want to check-out the Letters on page F8 in today's Home Section of
our mutual newspaper of choice. Lurch strikes again!
I have to tell you that I am beginning to wonder if the time has come for me to
renegotiate my own deal with the Los Angeles Times, rather than continuing under
the agreement Billy made with them in my behalf? I say this only because I'm
getting a little tired of having to roll out of bed at 3 o'clock in the morning
seven days a week to make that damn two-hour paper route through the hills of
Palos Verdes on my Schwinn...just to see my name in print once in a blue moon.
Ya think?
Stuart Kern
- Thursday, November 29, 2007 at 11:11:32
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Subject: Sears - Christmas shopping has already started
I know I needed this reminder since Sears isn't always my first choice. Amazing
when you think of how long the war has lasted and they haven't withdrawn from
their commitment. Could we each buy at least one thing at Sears this year?
How does Sears treat its employees who are called up for military duty? By law,
they are required to hold their jobs open and available, but nothing more.
Usually, people take a big pay cut and lose benefits as a result of being called
up.
Sears is voluntarily paying the difference in salaries and maintaining all
benefits, including medical insurance and bonus programs, for all called up
reservist employees for up to two years.
I submit that Sears is an exemplary corporate citizen and should be recognized
for its contribution. I suggest we all shop at Sears, and be sure to find a
manager to tell them why we are there so the company gets the positive
reinforcement it well deserves.
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Wednesday, November 28, 2007 at 10:33:53
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Barbara,
I sent you photos of your parents house about six months ago. It has a new
roll-up garage door, paint job and roof. Nice landscaping. I am guessing
$1,000,000 plus, even in this market. There are only so many homes in the
Ventura Keys. I will re-send the photos if necessary when you get your new PC.
To orient yourself on Google Earth, type in Peninsula Street and Seahorse
Avenue, Ventura, CA. If you click on the scale above the compass in the upper
right hand corner of the picture, you can zoom down to ground level and see the
house from three hundred and sixty degrees (don't pay any attention to those
strapping young men in the back yard to the south of your parents house, I am
sure that their clothes are in the drier...)
guy webb
USA - Wednesday, November 28, 2007 at 04:59:16
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Guy,
What do you mean, my parents garage door has been replaced. Replaced with what?
Are you referring to the sailboat that was on the door?
Bill and Stuart,
Thanks for the tips on the computer. I'm going for broke and getting a real
"Mother" of a computer (so in theory I don't have to go through this exercise of
buying and LEARNING another computer for some time).
About the OS's. The only OS being sold up here is Vista. I'm a bit uneasy about
getting an OS that doesn't have that long of a life to get the bugs worked out
but that's all they are offering. Every store. Do you guys have Best Buy stores
down there? (They probably originated there like everything else). They seem to
be the best deal. Future Shop the only other real player and is such a horrible
place to shop. The high pressure salesmen always make me sick. They are opening
up a new (gigantic) Best Buy store this coming Friday so I hope I can do even
better on the things I want.
Guy,
The very first thing I'm going to do on my new computer is get Google Earth and
see my parents old home in Ventura!!
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 23:20:28
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Guy,
What a GREAT idea!!!
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 23:04:23
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Carol McConkey - I knew your boss lived on Lomas Serenas drive. So did I, and
that is why I mentioned that the homes that burned were several blocks away from
Lomas Serenas Drive, I didn't want you to be concerned.
Richie
Rich McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 11:49:23
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Guy ... sorry to hear about Tom Sullivan's passing. He was one of those guys
that everyone liked and he will be missed.
Richie ... those fires in San Diego were absolutely terrible. My old boss lives
on Lomas Serenas Drive and I contacted him and they are okay. The Fire
Department personnel did an incredible job to put out so many fires and their
bravery is unbelievable.
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 10:18:16
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R.I.P.
Tom Sullivan
According to Steve "Barney" Venable in a call yesterday, Tom has passed away.
R.I.P.
guy webb
USA - Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 08:40:19
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The San Diego fires.....One month later...We are fortunate to own a lovely home
on an acre overlooking Lake Hodges to the west and 7 mountain ranges to the
east. There used to be 13 lovely homes 3000 SQ. FT. and up at the base of
Bernardo Mountain. The only things left in our view is 13 chimneys and 11
swimming pools. At the end of our street is a point of land that was about 5
acres with in your face views of the lake...They were huge....up to 5000 Sq. Ft.
Now there are 5 chimneys and 5 swimming pools, oh, and 2 tennis courts.
You can only imagine what it is like living in a small rural community with
barely 2 lane roads and construction equipment everywhere. I have 2 things to
comment on...Virtually no lookie loos in our neighborhood (Thanx Folks!) and we
came within 30 minutes of
being just a chimney so I am sure not complaining! By the way, Carol McConkey,
We sold our Lomas Serenas home in 1997. It was larger than this house, but
nowhere near the views we have. Carol,13 homes burned in Lomas Serenas, the fire
came up the backway off the 15 freeway. I didn't think the Lomas Serenas
homeowners association allowed fires in their community...(But why do you NEED a
deck!!!!!)They will probably add a new rule to their book. Welcome to the NEW
FOLKS!!
Richie
Rich mckinney
san diego, USA - Monday, November 26, 2007 at 18:41:40
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Barbara,
I would suggest that you are better off logging on to ebay and waving a check
offering $500 Canadian Loonies to the first person to deliver and install a
brand new Intel inside, hand-held, desk-top, iPod, hamster powered, lap dance
compatable, Dish direct, Google guaranteed, Snopes censored, wireless waranteed,
U-tube ready, hardwire handy, satalite sensitive, mouse motivated, remote keyed,
garage door opening, smoke alarm activated, solar powered, Universal, Uni
underwritten, Ranger Bill/Lurch approved model. Stewart has also offered to walk
your son through the brand new, Richard Gere gerbil sensitive, body organ
inspection. Simply fill out the attached paperwork and mail to Bob Brann for his
signature.
BTW, your parents garage door has been replaced...
guy webb
USA - Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 22:10:03
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Barbara, I would ge glad to help you . We just got back to the Bay Area an hour
ago. Dell is good (Ellen and I both have new laptops along with a Dell desk top.
Ellen work computer however is an IBM T40 which is really a work horse. You may
want to consider picking one up used, T30s and T40 are practically unbreakable
and should be able to do anything you want (make sure you get wireless.
You may find one with all the bells and whistles for around $350.00. The Dells
are very good too and the cheapest new one would be around $600 (desk top). If
you need any help just let me know. Lurch still uses an Atari 400.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 21:10:37
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Barbara:
It seems to me that between Bob Brann and Bill Bakaleinikoff you can be steered
in exactly the right direction as far as what computer(s) to buy to best fill
your needs. Bob's the expert. Bill don't know didley. It's his wife, Ellen,
whose the ventriloquist; he's just the dummy.
Stuart Kern
- Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 20:43:42
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Correction!
I was just looking at my old bill for the computer I have had since 2001 and it
was more than I will be paying this time.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 19:28:27
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My search for a new computer is chugging along. I spent the whole week-end
looking at the various places for the kind of equipment that I am advised to
get.
What is this notion that computer related things are getting cheaper? Not in
Canada. I'm going to have to spend just about the same or even more than I did
in 2001 to get the computer I currently have.
We are all ticked off up here about our dollar. For the first time in 30+ years
our Canadian dollar is worth more than the US dollar and we are still paying
premium prices for every imaginable consumer good. Grrr!!!
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 19:21:57
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Stuart,
In regards to your post about keeping this site for the "written word", I wholly
agree. Besides there are many chances for us to post photos in the various
places connected to this site. I posted one of my Mothers family, another of my
own family (Father, Mother, Sister, dog) on another section (can't remember
where now). And I posted a photo of myself not too long ago.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 19:14:02
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Bill Norton,
I certainly remember you. Weren't you one of the people in the convertible that
was racing down Sunset Blvd. when I accidently kicked off my shoe which landed
on the busy road???
I was re-reading some very old posts from last August and realized that I had
completely forgotten to thank all the Birthday wishers (my birthday is 22
August). So very belated- thanks!
Jerry,
I was reading about your advice that my son should start thinking about having a
Prostate Cancer gizmo. He's 22 and I can't even get him to get his teeth
cleaned. Fat chance os success in getting him to have a Prostate test.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, November 25, 2007 at 19:07:00
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Roberto:
How nice to hear from you again! It's been far too long. I can't speak for
anyone else, but I was starting to wonder if perhaps you had been reading "The
Seven Pillars of Wisdom" and decided to disappear for a time into the
mysterious, constantly shifting desert sands...of downtown Phoenix.
Stuart Kern
- Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 21:17:25
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I see there was some interest in photos on this message board, and that it
created a problem with the board downloading promptly. We have a solution to
that problem, it's our "Photobucket" account and anyone interested may feel free
to use it. We attempted to promote it some time ago, but there were no takers.
If the climate has changed now, feel free to contact me via email and I'll see
if I can resurrect the process and the url so you can post photos, then create a
"link" to it in your message on this board, and perhaps satisfy that insane
desire to "show" as well as "tell".
Bobby Brann
Wellton, AZ USA - Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 20:44:59
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Thanks Billy and please Thank Ellen for me ... "Girls Rule, Boys Drool"!!!
;-))))))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 20:34:43
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Carol - I wouldn't worry too much about the pictures...Billy is probably the
only one technically capable of doing that! I selfishly lamented a while back
about the "loss" of my older son to the South Pacific Seas for at least the near
future...But I think I got some beter news from my younger boy...I asked him
when he graduates from UC Santa Cruz next year if he was going to stay
there....I held my breath for a few seconds as he thought about it and then he
said....Relax Pops, San diego is my home! Yeah, a little selfish but it makes
Bonnie and I real happy, at least for now!
Richie
Richie
Rich McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 20:03:44
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Ellen just smashed my camera with a hammer and told me I wasn't getting supper.
She agrees that photos don't belong here; and besides those were my blackmail
photos of Lurch. Now he has stopped paying me.
BILL BAKALEINIKOFF
Sierras, CA USA - Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 20:02:36
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Stuart ... I do agree with you ... I think this "Message Board" should stay a
"Message Board". If we all start loading pictures onto it, it will take forever
for those that are on dial up modems to be able to get to our message board.
Billy, although very funny, if you don't mind, I am going to delete the pictures
... okay???
Barbara, Good Luck!!! ;-))) Keep us posted!
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 18:40:26
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Seriously, I am but one voice, but I suggest we limit our message board postings
to the written word. If we do not, I fear this little peace of heaven will
rapidly deteriorate into being little more than just another site to post
pictures of this and that, some nice, some funny and some neither. Or, to put it
a different way, it seems to me that our individual and collective
interpretations of the world around us...past, present and future...are what
makes this message board so special.
Again, I am but one voice and I have said my piece. PEACE.
Stuart Kern
Palos Verdes, CA - Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 17:43:48
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Billy:
I suggest you seriously consider the possible consequences of repeating your
recent reckless foray into photographic posting. You may be crossing a line you
will regret. Does the Yalu River strike a familiar note, General?
Your Friend, Mao (aka Stuart Kern)
PRC - Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 17:29:07
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Guido:
To be on the safe side, you might want to consider subscribing to The Daily
Worker or Pravda.
Stuart Kern
- Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 17:17:48
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HELP!!!
My old Gateway computer finally gave up the ghost. Well, at least it is too much
trouble to use it (needs to be re-started minimum of 2 times sometimes 4 times
just to get it going. With all the very knowledgeable computer people on this
site could some (or a lot) of posters give me some advice for buying a new
computer.
I called Dell (Canada) and the person could barely speak English - not a good
start. I'm using a Gateway (they don't sell in Canada anynmore) with Windows
Millenium OS. Reading all the horror stories about Dell, HP, etc. I'm not
looking forward to my search.
To start with: is XP a decent OS? Is Vista too new (and uses a lot of memory I
understand) OK?
I'm going to Best Buy today to do research on what I can get for how much $$$.
Wish me luck.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 14:46:20
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Stuart - Spot on correct...
I can see right now that I am going to have to change my newspaper of choice as
well as my sponge...
You will all be deliriously happy to know that you have exactly 30 shopping days
left until Christmas...
guy webb
valpariaso, USA - Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 13:54:08
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Don McLean, Guido, as composer...subject...and again composer.
I saw him perform at the intimate Norris Theater here in Palos Verdes a couple
of years ago. Excellent!
And to those of you who may be interested, if you will let me know here, I will
forward on to you (through Carol) what I have long considered THE most beautiful
video I have ever seen. It is a collection of Vincent Van Gogh's wondrous
paintings set to music...Don McLean's "Starry, Starry Night." It will take your
breath away, I assure you.
As an aside, before the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam was built, a vast
collection of his work was displayed by itself in the Rijksmuseum...in
chronological order. I remember being almost overwhelmed by what appeared to me
to be the man's heart-breaking journey into darkness.
Stuart Kern
- Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 00:49:35
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I must confess that when I fishing in Alaska and we are in camp or on my 32'
fishing boat the "Shawnee" spam and (eggs) (over easy) are my favorite foods.
Turkey just makes me tired! Pablo " THE PESCADOR "
paul groesse
P.B., WA. USA - Saturday, November 24, 2007 at 00:13:02
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What is the connection between "American Pie", "Killing Me Softly With His
Song", and "Vincent"?...
guy webb
USA - Friday, November 23, 2007 at 23:11:42
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Because my Italian is a little rusty ;-) I googled "Mangia" and here is what
good old Google came up with ....
Chi pecora si fa, il lupo se la mangia.
English translation: Those who make themselves sheep will be eaten by the wolf.
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend , OR USA - Friday, November 23, 2007 at 11:24:05
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Mangia Mangia - "Because we love to eat"
GUY WEBB
USA - Friday, November 23, 2007 at 01:32:24
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<BIG><BIG><CENTER>HAPPY THANKSGIVING.....MANGIA MANGIA</CENTER></BIG></BIG>
BILL BAKALEINIKOFF
Sierras, CA USA - Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 21:19:51
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Semantics.......the meaning of words. The word GOBBLE, it is the sound a turkey
makes, or what people do to the turkey ot thanksgiving. Have a happy
thanksgiving.
Hal Thorburn
Orange, Ca. USA - Thursday, November 22, 2007 at 12:48:02
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She was in the kitchen preparing to boil eggs for breakfast. He walked in. She
turned and said: "You've got to make love to me this very moment." His eyes lit
up and he was very keen for the idea. They made love right there in the kitchen.
Then she said "thanks", and she returned to the stove. He, rather puzzled, said
"what was that all about?" She replied "the egg timer is broken."
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 23:42:04
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How's anyone supposed to offer serious Thanksgiving greetings after chef guy's
recipe? Oh well...Lurch wishes you all the bird!
Stuart Kern
- Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 22:22:35
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This year I decided to do our traditional Thanksgiving BBQ using an ancient
method handed down by great, great, great, great, great Grandfather Argyle.
It involves de-boning the largest turkey in the flock and crushing the light and
dark meat between huge 3 to 5 ton flat rocks for several months to drive out
most of the moisture.
The turkey is then turned on its axis and again squashed with heavy weights for
another 2 or three months.
This process is repeated until the compressed fowl is formed into the familiar
rectangular shape of a can of SPAM.
Multiple layers of pre-printed SPAM graphics are presented in a tastful manner,
at which time the whole shebang is placed in the middle of the "Pink Lady of
Malibu" tunnel, whereapon a peat fire is stoked until the temperature in the
very center of the mass reaches 418 degrees as measured by a rectal thermometer.
Once the "loaf" has rested for approximately 31 minutes, everyone is asked to
retire to Ranger Bill's place for licorice and jerkey fondue...
guy webb
Veniverdivechi, USA - Wednesday, November 21, 2007 at 21:06:27
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The other day, at the Third Street Mall, an old man was sitting there, and he
kept staring at this kid whom had multi colored hair sticking out in all
directions. The kid asked him what he was staring at. The old man said that once
he had gotten drunk and had sex with a peacock, and he was staring because he
was trying to figure out if the kid was his son.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Tuesday, November 20, 2007 at 23:27:22
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RB,
Sorry. Didn't think. Forgot you're the sensitive type and I was wrong to post
horrible untruths like I did. The outfit was perfect and the reason it got
"scorched" was that I'm too cheap to pay a plumber to fix the pilot and lighting
the oven with a blowtorch is a lot harder than I'd remembered. Forgive me???
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Tuesday, November 20, 2007 at 20:24:43
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Ranger Bill is hurt. There is a reason Spam costs more then Turkey Jerry, their
skin is made out of tin. I'am sorry but there are no refunds and the turkey
costume probably caught fire because your oven was too hot.
However, because it is the holiday season and you have been a friend for over
forty five years, Ranger Bill is sending you a personally signed *authentic
Hallmark card with festive drawings on it.
*<small><small>Just a figure of speech, I got it from Carol last
year</small></small>
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Sierras, CA USA - Tuesday, November 20, 2007 at 11:49:07
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Sorry RB,
Not goin' to get me this time. Someone finally told me that pound for pound
turkey is waaayy less than spam. I think you goofed and put the decimal point in
the wrong spot again. Actually your problems probably started with the fermented
papaya juice they fed you on your last junket to Da Big Island. Another pound
for pound, more spam eaten there than any other single place on the planet??
Yeah, I know...................TURKEY FEATHERS!!!
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Monday, November 19, 2007 at 17:19:22
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If you're thrifty like Ranger Bill, you probably want to save a few bucks during
the holidays. Thanksgiving is a good place to start. Who needs a thirty pound
turkey that looks like an aged Shelly Winters in the nude; talk about expensive,
you can just see the money disappear with every bite and chomp at the dinner
table. And think about all the extra added expenses when you toss in the
cranberry sauce, stuffing and those little colorful paper shoes for the turkey's
feet.
Dump the turkey and pick up a family size can of Spam and Ranger Bill's patented
eatible turkey costume for your Thanksgiving feast. Your family and friends will
never know the difference when that platter comes out of the kitchen and onto
the table. It's fun and it's easy, just slip the Span right into the Ranger Bill
'turkey costume'; now open the included bag of imitation stuffing and shove it
up the turkey's realistic opening, now place in the oven at 350 for one hour or
untill the turkey costume gets real stiff or bursts into flames (very rarely
does that happen).
There you have it, you just saved big bucks and your family and friends will
never know the difference. And if you are not satisfied that this was not the
best Thanksgiving feast you ever had just send the uneaten portion back to
Ranger Bill's repacking plant in Mongolia.
Ranger Bill's patented Thanksgiving Turkey costume and stuffing pouch is only
$9.95.
Bill Bakleinikoff
Sierras, CA USA - Monday, November 19, 2007 at 15:04:19
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<center> May your stuffing be tasty
May your turkey plump,
May your potatoes and gravy
Have never a lump.
May your yams be delicious
And your pies take the prize,
And may your Thanksgiving dinner
Stay off your thighs!
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! </center>
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Sunday, November 18, 2007 at 12:32:51
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I couldn't agree with you more, Cary. And without sounding like an echo, I offer
this explanation, a play in three acts:
Act I:
LBJ managed to hornswoggle Congress and the public into believing we could have
"guns and butter" at the same time. So he pursued, enlarged and perpetuated a
protracted major war halfway around the globe because of his all too-typical
poor Texas upbringing's way overdone respect for men with medals on their
chests...while simultaneously funding high-minded social legislation here at
home...and all the time the red ink flowed like a hemophiliac on blood thinner.
Bobby Kennedy didn't chase Ole' Lyndon back to Texas, our badly hemorrahaging
economy did.
Act II:
More of the same, except this time with the ever so slight modification of
passing on domestic needs and pouring all the money like gasoline on a raging
wildfire....or is that oilfire?
Act III:
If its Rudy, more of the same. If it's Obama, who knows. If it's Hillary, "Well,
we'll always have Paris."
Stuart Kern
- Sunday, November 18, 2007 at 02:27:27
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I offer to pay $100.00 to the first person to intigrate a spell check solution
to this web site and to add a "are you sure you want to click 'I'm sure'" prior
to finalizing a posting.
I can do it playing backgammon and dominoes on line...
I would like to have the same choice prior to posting.
Argyle
guy webb
USA - Saturday, November 17, 2007 at 21:55:22
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Stuart: I have no particular view as to the validity of the War, but I believe
the unprecedented failure of the President and Congress to fund the War with a
tax is messing up our government, our dollar, our economy, and our name, and
that it evidences that both the War, and the refusal to fund it, are political
stunts. If anyone can rationalize the President and Congress' refusals to fund
the War with a tax, I'd be interested to hear their argument. As Gerald Ford
once said, "If Lincoln were alive today, he'd roll over in his grave."
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Saturday, November 17, 2007 at 19:21:41
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Stuart Lurch Kern - Yeah, Stewart, but she left the rings around my Bathtub!
Richie
Rich McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Saturday, November 17, 2007 at 14:44:51
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I'm back, I had to restore my computer to the way it was configured on an
earlier date. For a few scary moments nothing worked, so Iturned off and
restarted and the restore program worked! I had deleted a lot of unused programs
and probably deleted something important. Just goes to show you If it aint broke
don't fix it!
Hal Thorburn
Orange, Ca. USA - Saturday, November 17, 2007 at 14:23:33
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Cary:
Maybe you'd best lighten-up a bit on Mr. Potatoe Head, unless, of course, you
want "bump into" some of the really nice guys from Blackwater. Seriously, as is
obvious, by and large you're preaching to the choir here. However, unless I am
imagining it, there has been an ackward silence from some of the staunchly
politically conservative among us of late, which I believe may be due to their
being uncomfortable with all the W bashing.
Take it for what it's worth and feel free to tell me I don't know what I'm
talking about. It won't be the first time...or the last.
Guy:
I'll ask my sister over the weekend and get back to you.
Billy & Stuart:
No, the Robert Woolf I was referring to was the decorator adopted son of
residential architect, John Woolf. Jack, as he known by, was famous for creating
what became known as the "Hollywood Regency" style of homes for some of our
so-called domestic royalty.
His very first house after moving from Atlanta in the pre-air conditioning
1930's was built on North Beverly Drive as the summer home for the head of
Coca-Cola. (Do you know how hot and muggy it gets in Atlanta in the summertime?)
It was later owned by Sylvia Sydney and was purchased by my folks in 1971. Dad,
a master-rated cabinet maker by avocation, worked with Jack to architecturally
return it back to its original design and with Bob to restore and furnish the
interior. They all worked on it for well over a year before my folks ever moved
in and in the process became fast friends.
After Jack passed away years ago (he would have been 100 next year), Bob bought
one of the many huge, old-money estates up in Montecito. I remember his planting
several hundred rose bushes on the huge grounds...and that is why I asked Guy
what I did.
Blondie:
Tell Craig not to try to use that American Express card he found in Vegas
again...and I wouldn't get too attached to your new Corvette.
Great story, lovely gesture and, of course, heartiest congratulations on your
40th wedding anniversary. I will have been married almost that long if my first
wife hadn't returned to Saturn...with the rings.
Stuart Kern
- Saturday, November 17, 2007 at 02:19:48
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Cary, unfortunately, George missed the doll and stuck the pin in America's
_______. Nothing more dangerous when a person looks into the mirror and sees
someone else.
Billl Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Saturday, November 17, 2007 at 01:26:52
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Correction: That last quote was from George H. W. Bush, the one whom, before
adopting Reagonomics, referred to it as "Voodoo Economics".
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Friday, November 16, 2007 at 23:37:03
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Jerry, I have it on good authority that ALL oncolgists laugh just to keep you on
your toes...They all think they are looking in to a kaleidoscope...
I like to fool mine by swallowing Twinkies whole, M&M's, Pez, Necco Wafers,
prunes, Ju-Ju's, Dodger Dog's, Bannana Split's from Dilly's, canned peanuts and
strawberry licorice sticks, slices of Piece o' Pizza, candied apples, Sno-Cones,
Sceaming Yellow Zonkers, Fan Tan Gum, Cheerios, Easter eggs, date shakes,
Truman's curley fry's, pastrami from Zuckie's, Fat Eddie's onion rings, Jeb's
chili dog's, and a few Halloween candy chicken teeth.
Let them sort it out...
Check out
guy webb
USA - Friday, November 16, 2007 at 23:10:31
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There was another gem of wisdom from our President, namely: "Its no exaggeration
to say the undecideds could go one way or another."
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Friday, November 16, 2007 at 22:47:52
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Guido,
Was that a reference to me as "the nude marathoner"? I don't run well, hate just
walking unless it's on some forest trail and, thanks to my recent surgery, "I
JUST GOT OUT OF THE POOL!!! I JUST GOT OUT OF THE POOL!!!" is all I need say. No
more streaking for me. Heck, even my oncologist laughed at me.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Friday, November 16, 2007 at 22:15:42
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Cary, I think he finished the statement with "Because I have egg on my
face............Dick how was that.....Dick.....Dick......."
Billly Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Friday, November 16, 2007 at 19:56:52
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With Thanksgiving approaching, we need to remember the visionary words of our
current President, namely: "I know how hard it is for you to put food on your
family"
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Friday, November 16, 2007 at 19:09:55
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Willard - nice try, but your not getting her number...
Your posting to Hal is a deliberate trick question. I am ALWAYS in the same
place that I am, and from what I can gather Guy Madison is ALWAYS in the same
place that HE is...
Hal = some people deliberately post the wrong date along with their message in
an attempt to provide an alibi when they were actually at HOOTERS with Willard,
Sturch, Bobert, Sgt. Rich, and Jerry, the nude marathoner.
This was posted tomorrow...
guido
guy webb
USA - Friday, November 16, 2007 at 18:06:13
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Hal, it is Friday and there has been several posts since Tuesday. Is your
computer acting up again? Is this another time warp? Is this some kind of
sinister plot? Where did those three days go? Have you ever noticed that we have
never seen Guy Webb or Guy Madison in the same place at the same time? This is
getting scary.
Billl Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Friday, November 16, 2007 at 17:07:21
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Hello.....is anyone out there? There are no new postngs scince tuesday when I
access the site I hope nothing is wrong!
Hal Thorburn
Orange, Ca. USA - Friday, November 16, 2007 at 16:02:05
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What a neat story Carol. Good for Diane and Craig; and I agree, that young
Marine and his wife will remember that until their 40th anniversary.
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Richie, take off the dress blue's jacket, Lurch ain't buying you dinner again.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Friday, November 16, 2007 at 13:31:15
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Diane, I hope you don't mind me sharing this story, but I think it was such a
wonderful gesture and I wanted to share it with the website. Craig and Diane
Graveline Johnson were in Las Vegas having dinner celebrating their 40th Wedding
Anniversary (Craig's ala carte lobster was $76.50, so you know it wasn't a
cheapie restaurant) and a young couple was sitting at the table next to them (he
was a Marine) and they were holding hands ..... Craig asked the waiter for the
couple's check and thanked him for serving our country...the smiles on their
faces and the big hugs they gave Diane & Craig was just the BEST !!! I wrote to
Diane letting her know that I believe that is a story that Marine will be
telling his grandchildren.
Thank you Diane & Craig ... you two are the BEST and Happy 40th Anniversary!!
;-))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Friday, November 16, 2007 at 09:06:53
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Stuart M., Robert was a fantastic artist, What an honor to have worked with him.
He probably felt the same way working with you. So much talent on this board.
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Guy, do you have her phone number?
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Friday, November 16, 2007 at 02:01:36
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Stuart,
Actually no. It was the estate of Maryanne Tyson Green, a Rosarian of major
resources. Somewhat akin to Madame Ganna Walska of Lotusland fame, Ms. Green had
multiple marriages, vast amounts of money, jewelry, furniture, and art, and
absolutely NO children to leave it all to.
I continue to aspire to having some meaningful purpose by maintaining Ventura
parks, acting as a Docent at Lotusland giving visitors tours of the 37+ acres of
world recognized gardens, walking tourists through the grounds of the historic
Olivas Adobe, and in January, embarcing on Master Gardener training in Ventura,
sponsored by the University of California program. What are the odds that I will
pass the mandatory fingerprinting requirement?...
Can your sister still gain me entray to Madame Walska's neices personal
remeberances? Any help in this regard will be very much appreciated. I want John
Strong to view and paint the famous "Czar's Portrait" of the lovely teen-aged
Ganna.
guido
guy webb
USA - Thursday, November 15, 2007 at 22:46:14
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Bill,
I had the great pleasure of working with Bob Wolffe for many years at Disney
imagineering. He was a warm and giving person, and a master artist, amongst
masters of art. Check it out:
http://robertwoolfe.com/about.asp
Fondly in Art,
Stuart Muller
Pacpalcalusa (a small village in the eastern Pacific, north of Mexico), Earth -
Thursday, November 15, 2007 at 20:05:40
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Lurch, are you referring to the late <i> scenic artist </i> Robert Woolfe? Do
you have any of his paintings?
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Thursday, November 15, 2007 at 17:16:02
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Guy:
Can I wake you up from your nap long enough to ask if by chance that house up in
Montecito in which you planted the 500 rose bushes some years ago was owned by
Robert Woolfe?
Stuart Kern
- Thursday, November 15, 2007 at 13:10:29
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Make that "Endless Summer" by Bruce Brown. He also did "On Any Sunday" with
Steve McQueen. I guess I need a nap...
guy
guy webb
USA - Thursday, November 15, 2007 at 06:43:58
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I just stumbled on Danny Stat's tribute to Frank Holguin. Have you read it? Talk
about a time warp! Danny writes like Hemingway, short words everybody
understands, painting pictures as he goes along. Wonderful!
And thank you, Richie. One need not to have served to be sensitive to the needs
and uses of our armed forces.
Douglas MacArthur took three words every West Point plebe learns before he or
she learns anything else...and made them his trademark: "Duty, honor, country."
Noble words to be sure and it has been the belief in and dedication to them by
the countless men and women in all the service branches over the life of our
country which is largely responsible for America's greatness in the hearts and
minds of its citizens and in the eyes of the world. However, I am also reminded
of Shakespeare's words that "the abuse of greatness is when it disjoins remorse
from power."
Stuart Kern
- Thursday, November 15, 2007 at 00:45:48
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My birthday was a bit more than a month before the May 11 date. Didn't realize
how that read until after I posted it.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Wednesday, November 14, 2007 at 22:54:25
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I joined the Navy right after my 17th birthday, May 11, 1960, Steve Freer (W61)
joined the same day but an hour after me and Ron Richards (left Uni summer of
'60) joined 7 days later. I mention this because the two of them were my best
friends, Steve since Emerson and Ron since Webster, and we joined without
knowing the others had until we talked about it later. Steve's service number
was one after mine and Ron's was 5 after, i.e., mine was *** ** 41 and theirs
*** ** 42 and 46 respectively. We all waited 'til after graduation to "go
active", Ron in Sept. 61, me March '62 and Steve April or May of '62. They both
were aboard ships homeported here on the west coast but I was sent to Japan. It
was a good time to be in the service and get out before 'Nam got real hot and
heavy. I was grateful to not have to go into battle and am so beholden to those
that went in my stead. I have no glorious words except my deepset THANKS. I
received an email today with a link to a fine tribute to those serving us and
our freedom. I share it here and suggest all copy and paste it into your browser
address bar. It is a safe webpage. The subject for the original email was Happy
Thanksgiving.
http://www.grizzlypoint.com/tg/2006tdm1.html
MY HEART CRIES EACH TIME I THINK OF THE HORRORS OUR KIDS HAVE BEEN THROUGH SINCE
THIS CRAP BEGAN. Even though their names aren't Carpenter, or Bakaleinikoff, or
McKinney THEY ARE OUR KIDS. They're there and so many are in their graves in our
kids places. Personalize it and see if you can stand it. I can't
I LOVE YOU ALL
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Wednesday, November 14, 2007 at 22:48:08
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re Semper Fi
I joined the Marine Corps Reserves at the Santa Monica Airport branch in June of
1961. I was born on Pearl Street, just west of the Douglas Aircraft Factory. A
lot of history was made at that airport, including Howard Hughes famous crash
landing into the surrounding residential area. I believe Brother Bill has some
Howard Hughes tales he can share with us. My Mother was a "Rosie the Riveter" on
Hughes's "Spruce Goose". Her job was to deliver change orders to the assemblers
in the massive wings of the plane, which just happened to be "little people" who
were able to access the tight spaces in the wing structurs. Many of these
workers had played parts in "The Wizard of Oz", as "Munchkins"...
Prior to the building of my parents home at 1159 Monument Street, Pacific
Palisades, when Dad came home from the war, we lived on Park Ocean Blvd, which
was one side of the Douglas Aircraft factory. John Walkey's father was the
purchasing agent for Douglas. My brother Gary dated Donald Douglas's daughter.
Tom Sprague and Ernie Selfors worked for Douglas after high school. I believe
that Mitch Bobrick was an engineer/designer at Douglas. Hughes Aircraft was
located where all of the frenzied construction is going on in Marina Del Ray,
where Ryder Lewis, Candy Craig, and Cassie Shebel have lived. I sold the massive
telephone pole sized pilings and "character board" exterior for the Warehouse
restaraunt in Marina Del Ray at the site of the former Lake Los Angeles to Bruce
Brown, the producer of "Any Wednesday" which was the first widely circulated
surf film, featuring Kemp Aaberg and music by the Ventures. I was discharged
from the Marine Corps Reserves in June, 1967, at which time I graduated from
Woodbury University (then just "college") and set of for Europe on the Queen
Elizabeth which my Father and Uncle Harry had sailed off to WW11 on in the
1940's...My goal was to meet up with Stuart Muller in Pamplona for the running
of the bulls, but alas, we never hooked up. I did however meet up with Flo
Bobrick and Rod McKuen in London where Rod made an album, and Rod, Flo, Rod's
friend Eddie, and I attended plays, ate at the Dorchester Hotel, walked around
Picadilly Circus, watched the changing of the guard at Buckingham Palace, walked
across London Bridge while it was still situated in London, visited Westminister
Abbey, Hyde Park, Leichestershire Park, and several gay bars... Semper fi
indeed... :)
Guido
guy webb
USA - Wednesday, November 14, 2007 at 22:46:38
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We were in a little ahead of you Richie. There were four of five of us from Uni
that joined right after school so we were there from 1962 to 1968. We must have
over lapped in 1965-1966.
I did a lot of stuff much later with the Marines with the robot company.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, November 14, 2007 at 21:54:32
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You guys that were Marine Reservists....Were you part of the 2ND Battalion, 23rd
Marines based at Santa Monica airport. I attended drills there from 1965 to
1971. Islander Johnny Nagata was the company Armorer. Some of you must have been
there with me.
Semper Fi Jarheads
Sargent McKinney
richmckinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Wednesday, November 14, 2007 at 21:22:23
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Guy Webb and Stuart Kern - Your last postings were just amazing, so much
passion, I could feel the love in your hearts for our valiant fighting men and
women of the past and present.
You are both Passionate men but you are not fools and you certainly both care
deeply about our soldiers as we all do, but have you both have an extraordinary
way of expressing it. Thank You both. Semper Fi.
Richard
Rich McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Wednesday, November 14, 2007 at 19:34:30
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I wish I had an answer to your question, Guy, but I don't.
However, if I may, I would like to share a few thoughts which have been going
through my mind on Veterans Day + one, which perhaps indirectly touch on your
concerns...
There was a common thread which surprisingly ran through several of the nice
e-mailed responses I got to my Veterans Day 2007 essay, including an unexpected
one from a Tim Lemmer, the Letters Editor of The Wall Street Journal.
This was it: How many veterans, even highly-decorated ones, often have not
talked about their military experiences, even with their families, and sometimes
even go to their graves only to have their heirs discover hitherto unknown
photographs, medals, citations and the like stored away in safe deposit boxes.
I offer this perhaps too simple explanation: Conscription, the draft. These men
were caught in "the System", where they had little control over their own lives
during a time when their asses belonged to Uncle Sam and their souls belonged to
God. However, as soon as that time was over and they had regained control over
their own lives, they wanted to put their military experiences behind them...
good and bad...be they from World War II, Korea, Vietnam or even the
non-shooting Cold War.
Now consider the ones who stayed in the service, who put in their twenty. They
obviously liked "the Structure" of only having to follow orders to feel as sense
of self-worth, and without having to deal with many of the choices, questions
and challenges of civilian life. I believe it is also why so many of them
gravitated to law enforcement after their years of military service. This was
particularly true of Marines.
It doesn't take a genius to realize that we will see a return to the draft quite
soon because, among other reasons, we are losing too many captains who are not
signing on for another hitch and the lowered minimum character standards
necessary to meet basic recruitment requirements do not bode well for promotion
to the officer corps from the ranks.
When will it all end, Guy? Probably not in our lifetimes because what should be
American diplomacy now comes from the end of a gun and will continue to do so as
long as we remain the world's only superpower. At least that's my take.
Stuart Kern
- Wednesday, November 14, 2007 at 02:24:06
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I have discovered that I play way too much emphasis on eliciting an
acknowledgement or response to a posting. I appreciate EVERY post, as it adds to
the catalogue of our collective memories...
If we simply scan an absorb a posting without commenting, it doesn't mean we
didn't enjoy it...
If we had to stop and put a POST IT note on every sentence of a book we are
reading, we would never complete the book, and a few more trees would die...
(What is the tree equivalent to a posting?)...
One November many years ago, when I was working on a large estate in Montecito
where I had personally planted over 500 rose bushes, I took cuttings of the
roses to the beach along the ocean in Santa Barbara where a scale model of the
Vietnam Memorial Wall that was traveling the country had been erected.
My intention was to put the roses at the base of the panel that had Frank
Holguins name engraved on it. The scale model wall was much bigger than I had
anticipated, and was not in alphabetical order...
As I scanned the panels looking for Frank's name, I was overwhelmed by the
number of panels, and the number of names...
I gave up on trying to find Frank's wall and started laying roses at the base of
each of the marbel replicas.
Tears began to flow as the enormity of our collective loss and contribution
became apparent...
As I reached the final panel, and placed the final rose, a camouflage uniformed
gentleman wearing a beret placed his arm around my shoulder and thanked me...
How much longer are we going to accept this ?
Guido
guy webb
USA - Tuesday, November 13, 2007 at 22:52:46
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Thank you, Billy, for your kind expression of gratitude and over-the-top praise.
Just know though, as the old saying goes, it really is far better to give than
to receive. How else can we take the opportunity to show those we genuinely care
for how much their friendship means?
And no, I STILL won't lower the 10% per month interest on your unpaid balance.
Stuart Kern
- Tuesday, November 13, 2007 at 13:02:36
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It has been Dick Cheney's thesis that Americans won't notice if we don't fund
our debt, and if that devalues the dollar. And none of the candidates are
talking about it, probably because they think that Americans' eyes will just
glaze over. But to put the cost of this in a little perspective, I note that Rex
Tillerson, the Head of Exxon Mobil, just gave a speech in which he said that
about $22 to $25 of the recent rise in crude oil prices per barrel is
attributable to the fall in the dollar as against the Euro. And things are
apparently getting worse, as Japan says the yen is now going to start going up
rapidly against the dollar. All the more reason why we need to elect candidates
whom will impose whatever taxes are necessary to pay our bills as we go.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Tuesday, November 13, 2007 at 12:56:09
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We all know and I have to admit here and now that running was a lie. Shuffling,
maybe.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Tuesday, November 13, 2007 at 11:38:30
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He turned into a stretch Limo......Billy, atders funny, I don't care who you
are, right there with Diablo Canyon!!
Richie
richmckinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Tuesday, November 13, 2007 at 10:06:48
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One of the stories I always remembered when I was growing up was not a
particularly exciting one or even remotely earth shattering, it was just a
simple story that grew in meaning through the years. A story that means little
to youth and yet it had everything to do with not only youth but the short walk
from youth to the end of middle age and beyond. It was a very simple story.
A reporter was doing a story on an upscale rest home filled with captains of
industry, movie stars, writers, fashion icons and even high ranking government
officials, in short, an elite gathering of highly successful people. The
reporter asked many questions to the head administrator of the home. It turned
out that the average age was eighty six years old and it cost about $2,500 week
to stay there. Looking around, the reporter commented on how beautiful the place
looked. The reporter mentioned that the average Joe probably couldn’t afford it.
The administrator agreed but added that the state pays for about 8% of the
residents who can’t afford. It was the law.
The reporter thought he had about enough of the story and was heading out: after
all it was only going to be a three minute segment on the local news. As an
after thought, he turned to the administrator after looking at all of these
successful aging icons. I am just curious, there are so many rich and famous
people here, who is the most admired?
The administrator looked around the sitting room and pointed to a man in a wheel
chair sitting by the fireplace. That guy, over there by the fire, Mr. Johnston.
Curious, the reporter asked, gosh what did he do, was he the C.E.O. of General
Motors or something like that? The administrator replied, oh no nothing like
that, Mr. Johnston is one of the state wards he has no money he was a bus
driver. The reporter thought for a second and said, a bus driver, you mean with
all these famous successful people here he is the most admired.? Yep, he is the
most envied of anybody here. Why? asked the reporter. The administrator replied,
his children and friends come to visit him often.
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Thank you for the wonderful cards, emails and additions to the wonderful
scrapbook Ellen secretly put together for me for my birthday. What a great gift.
And Stuart Kern, I wish I could show the scrapbook you sent Ellen to house the
event. As many of you know, Stuart Kern's name appears on state of the art
leather goods that represent the Rolls Royce of quality. Major golf tournaments,
and corporate parting gifts for the CEOs to list a few clients. However, the
shinning tribute is that the last five Presidents of the White House have
contracted Stuart Kern to furnish the White House with their personal gifts to
Queens and Kings, leaders of nations and personal gifts with the White House
seal on them. Well this scrapbook was one such gift to house all of my e-mail
letters and photo memories that you sent. It is the most beautiful bound book I
have ever seen. The leather is so soft and the stitching so fine, it is simply a
work of art; but the thing I love most is looking at the name Stuart Kern
embossed in gold lettering on the back binding; very subtle, but just a reminder
of a piece of art and talent with the creators name on it; and he happens to be
one of my oldest and dearest friends (I have to make him think I have other
friends too or he gets to bossy)...........What a happy birthday, thank you each
and every one of you.
Jerry, I am still laughing at "Running naked through Diablo Canyon"
Guy, my next door neighbor's dog, a dashound (wienner dog) got a hold of some of
your Guyagria. He turned into a streatch limo.
I will get back to each and every one of you in the next few days. Again, thank
you.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, November 13, 2007 at 02:12:52
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As Veterans Day comes to a close, I want to thank those of you who read my essay
on this special day and who took the time to let me know how much you enjoyed
it.
To those who may be interested, I wrote another essay, what one might call a
"left-handed eulogy" on the passing of Norman Mailer which I hope you will enjoy
as well. Like the considerably longer Veterans Day 2007 piece, it too appears in
the Tiki Tales section.
And finally, in response to Cary's most recent posting, I offer the following
quotation from Benjamin Franklin I remember reading at least forty years ago and
never forgot:
"There is no such thing as a good war or a bad peace."
Stuart Kern
- Tuesday, November 13, 2007 at 01:05:11
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As for Veteran's Day, here is to those heros who served, and particularly to
those, like Guy's Dad, whom paid the ultimate price. Having been glued to the tv
for these Ken Burns movies, and from having watched most all of the "You Are
There" episodes way back when, I'd say that WWII was a particularly miserable
War.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Monday, November 12, 2007 at 18:17:57
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Bobby Brann - Beats the hell out a me!!!
Richie
Rich I Can't remember McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Monday, November 12, 2007 at 15:40:59
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Bobby Brann - Beats the hell out a me!!!
Richie
Rich I Can't remember McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Monday, November 12, 2007 at 15:40:50
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Rich, would you please explain what all that means... I don't quite understand
"el juego de football" nor do I follow it... and I live above the stadium from
'92 to 2005... so.. my question is... what are you even TALKING about?
Bobby Brann
wellton, AZ USA - Monday, November 12, 2007 at 15:37:12
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I was a San Diego Charger fan long before moving to San Diego. Having said that,
the Chargers should fire Coach Norv "Turnover" Turner tonight and bar him from
the stadium. This team has as much talent as any team in the NFL....They spot us
16 points in the first quarter and it takes a miracle for us to win. ARRRRRGH!!
By the way...I watched the game tonight at the home a Charger Hall of Fame
player and he feels the same as I do.
Richie
rich mckinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 23:56:58
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Guidito webb - I appreciate the Guyagra but instead of a plastic bag you should
have sent it in a 50 gallon drum!
Semper Fi
Richie the Bazooka
richie the rocket
Sandy Eggo, USA - Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 21:23:38
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Hal: It isn't just the lawyers whom don't make sense. Next time you order a one
year magazine subscription, ask them what happens if you die before the year is
up. At least one publisher will tell you that if that happens, you get a refund.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 19:20:16
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Hal - Actually, this is an ad for Shakespeare's Henry VI in which the character
"Dick The Butcher" states "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers."
Ranger Bill states that his new medical sensation GUYAGRA will arouse the
deadest lawyer...
Richie - your order has been shipped in a clearly marked zip lock bag.
guy
guy webb
ventura, USA - Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 17:33:25
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Now tha I am back, Has anyone but me noticed that the advertisements for some
lawyer services don't make sense? For example more than one of them has asked
the question if you or anyone you know has died as a result of taking a certain
medicine call the 800 number so we can get you compensation. I kinda think that
once I have died it would be too late or is there a secret I am not aware of for
the dead to hire lawywers?
Hal Thorburn
Orange, Ca. USA - Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 16:37:07
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I have had connectivity problem accessing the site. The past two days I couldn't
even get to it at all. Previous instructions help but did not cure the problem.
I was able to contac a tech support person though my server an was instructed on
how to reset my browser settings. The difference in speed of connection is
astounding. Instead of having to wait for minutes it seemed, the connection is
almost insantanious. I think I was almost going through some king of withdrawal
angst by not being able to chat.
Hal Thorburn
Orange, Ca. USA - Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 16:25:17
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Guy - "Guyagra"....OyVey!
Richie
Rich mckinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 12:53:14
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY BILLY B-C!!!
Keep it joyful. Ellen deserves it even if you don't ;-))
Who else would've put up with you?? Thanks for all the laffs.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 11:01:41
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Happy Happy 65th Birthday BillyB ... I hope your day is as special as you!!
ENJOY!!!
I just added a wonderful "Veteran's Day 2007" story (under Tiki Tales) by Stuart
Kern ... Thank You Stuart!!
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 10:45:48
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P BIRTHDAY
TO YOU
P BIRTHDAY
TO YOU
P BIRTHDAY
DEAR WILLIAM "BILLY B, RANGER BILL, WILLARD, BILLIUM, ALPHABET, LEATHERNECK, JAR
HEAD" BAKALEINICOFF
P BIRTHDAY
TO YOU*
* Stuart K, I actual posted Billy B's birthday wishes at 12:00:01 eastern
standard time in invisible ink so as not to spoil the surprise...
** Note to all would be Social Security and Medicare recipients. Ranger Bill now
offers a special low cost system for all qualified Americans over 65 years of
age. Simply sign over your monthly benefits to him, and he will write you a
lifetime prescription for GUYAGRA, insuring you a satisfying and productive love
life...
HAPPY BIRTHDAY BILLY
guy webb
guy webb
ventilated, USA - Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 03:48:31
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I want to be the first to extend birthday greetings to my great friend, partner
in (drag racing) crime, mentor who encouraged me to write when I questioned if I
had what it takes to do so effectively, and last but not least, who has made me
laugh longer and harder than anybody I have ever known...sometimes at myself.
Happy 65th, Billy! You're the best!
Stuart Lurch Tessie Gams Kern
- Sunday, November 11, 2007 at 03:23:09
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The email links are a bit dated on the 4mg site.
A bit over 2 years old.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Saturday, November 10, 2007 at 23:13:01
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TD and PG,
I have the CD version of the "Sparkle & Shine" album by The Four Cal-Quettes,
featuring
"Sparkle & Shine"(1:51)
"In This World" (2:45)
"Star Bright" (1:59)
"Billy My Billy" (2:18) {a shameless peon to our own Ranger Bill}
"Most of All" (2:00)
"I'm Gonna Love Him Anyway" (2:11)
"Movie Magazines" (2:26)
"I Cried" (2:33)
"Again" (2:20)
"I'll Never Come Back" (2:17)
The first person to post who these 10 song pertained to, who wrote them, the
name of the singers, and the back up band, gets a free copy...
This is the 40th reunion, autographed edition, photo enhanced, RE-Onion
Productions version.
http://4calquettes.4mg.com/
Ranger Bill will be holding a "MIDNIGHT MADNESS" Billy B Birthday sale starting
tonight at 11:59:59...
Guido
guy webb
valhalla, USA - Saturday, November 10, 2007 at 22:18:59
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GREAT!!!!!! thanks Carol--Pablo
paul groesse
P.B., WA USA - Saturday, November 10, 2007 at 20:54:20
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Paul ... I don't have any more of the Four Cal-Quette CD's that we sold at the
reunion, but I can send you one with all the tunes on it. It won't look as
pretty as the one we made for the Reunion though. Don't forget to play "Sparkle
& Shine" as one of your jazz tunes on the radio!!! tee hee ;-)))))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Saturday, November 10, 2007 at 20:46:33
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Carol, I guess I didnt make myself very clear about the music---I do that a lot!
I mean the rock and roll group that you guys started in the 60's was it the Cal
somthing etts? I seem to have left my memory in Bombay. Pablo El Pescador
paul groesse
P.B., WA USA - Saturday, November 10, 2007 at 20:06:06
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For all of you Oregon transplants' information, I hear from a friend whom has
surfed down it, that the McKenzie River has some interesting breaks, or rather
rocks. I'm not knowledgeable as to whether or not the falls are comparable to
those at the Wedge.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Saturday, November 10, 2007 at 18:50:54
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Paul ... glad you like the music here, but I don't have a cd of the tunes from
the website. These are Midi's that I have downloaded from the internet onto my
computer. ;-)
Also glad you appreciate the "Love Turkey ... Eat Fish". We are having turkey
for Thanksgiving, but I thought that was cute and just had to put it up there!!
Can't believe that Thanksgiving is less than 2 weeks away ... YIKES!!!
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Saturday, November 10, 2007 at 17:20:45
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Carol, I love that "Be Bop a Lula" on the site and let me know where I can send
money for a copy of your CD. I am featuring John Prine on my saturday nite beach
party show --that is tonite!! special guest Iris Dement and Yo-Yo Ma. Sunday I
will be doing my regular sunset Jazz hour and a new show featuring show
tunes,soundtracts ect .First show "WEST SIDE STORY" I was a lonly 18 year old
kid in Paris 1961 and went to see West side Story It was so great at the time I
think I went back three or four times---I guess the music reminded me of
home.Funny the things we cant forget!? Had a nice conversation with Bill B last
week--It is truly amazing what we all have incomin! I dont feal that I am
interupting anyone or any thought process this posting. I guess Im into the
rythum or lack of. Speak and you shall be heard!!! Love the turkey sign EAT
FISH!!!!Paul the fisherman.
paul groesse
P.B., WA USA - Saturday, November 10, 2007 at 11:58:02
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Jerry ... GREAT attitude and LOVE what you said to the doc and actually LOVE his
comeback. Good Luck and please keep us posted!!! ;-)))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Saturday, November 10, 2007 at 10:35:24
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Jerry: Good luck with your treatments. It seems as though the docs know a lot
about this stuff nowadays.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Friday, November 09, 2007 at 22:45:55
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Jerry Carpenter - What a great attitude...The nuclear plant thing was VERY
FUNNY...I am praying for you, which is not something I do very often, so maybe
the big guy (or Gal) will pay attention when I do..Luvya old friend!
Richie
rich mckinney
san diego, USA - Friday, November 09, 2007 at 20:37:27
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I only posted that to get a smile......, Diablo Canyon........etc.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Friday, November 09, 2007 at 20:20:51
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We are with you Jerry, I have two other friends going through the same procedure
along with my sister in-law. As you know, Ellen is a cancer survivor too; there
are more fun things to do, but it will pass. Just remember, you are not alone
and we are all here just a phone call or e-mail away if you need anything. Hang
in there bro.
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Richie, the first year or so is a little lonely when they leave the nest but
soon the excitement of their progressing lives takes over and fills the void.
Just think of how exciting their futures are going to be. Also, just think of
the nice places of interest they will be living when you and Bonnie go to visit
them. It gets better Richie. You're a good Papa; and your sons know
it........can't bet that.
<center>******</center>
Ranger Bill sold his kids in his 1999 Summer Catalog and made a killing. When he
goes to Mongolia, he doesn't have to rent a yak or a yurt. The kids did good for
them selves.
Billl Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Friday, November 09, 2007 at 19:48:56
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Well all I know is that since I got a sleepy urologist to do my prostatectomy
and he left some bad stuff behind, I start radiation initial tests and Cat scans
Monday for planning everything to be followed by about 8 weeks of getting
zapped, weekends and holidays off.
I asked the doc if I could just run naked through Diablo Canyon Nuclear plant
each day but he said he wouldn't get paid for that so I have to go lay on the
"sofa" in his office and get my "glow" on. Hardass........
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Friday, November 09, 2007 at 18:30:24
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Where else but in a medical journal of some type could you get away with posting
about darker bowel movements??!!!!
Of course. who said you got away with it, Carol might be taking a nap!
Rich McKinney aka Richie the victim
Sandy Eggo, USA - Friday, November 09, 2007 at 17:02:46
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Billy Bak - I was slipping into totally uncalled for self pity mode but your
last posting has had me on the floor giggling for 5 Minutes. Stu Muller was
right, how can you not love this freakin board!!!???
Richie
Rich McKinney aka Richie the Bonehead
San Carlos, USA - Friday, November 09, 2007 at 16:58:16
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Don't worry Stuart Muller, I voted for you last Tuesday.
<center>*****</center>
Cary, your friend is right. People who use cell phones in the sun don't get
tanned ears unless they constantly shift ears while talking. These people are
very rare, so the majority of cell phone users have one tan ear and the other
ear stays their original skin color. Unfortunately, the tan slowly seeps through
the ear and gets into the brain and discolors it. This is called the <i>George
Hamilton Syndrome</i>. People with discolored brains also have darker bowl
movements. Share this with a friend who has a cell phone.
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Since you all know my birthday is coming up this weekend, you can check the
<i>birthday registry</i> at Ranger Bill's Discount Outlet Center near you. Cash
is also welcomed as a pleasant gift. Please, nothing over a $2,000, it is just a
small little get together. Oh, and I want to thank Sara Lee for the wonderful
birthday cake.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Friday, November 09, 2007 at 16:51:41
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My 25 year old son and his friend are back from the South pacific at their home
in Maui. Danny said the trip was everything they expected and much more. They
are so glad they went. They said the multicultural experience was unbeleivable
and will enhance their young lives for years. They have made frienships with
folks from all nationalities and cultures from all over the world. Dan says they
made a lot of potential business contacts. As I have mentioned, they both have
degrees from San Diego state with emphasis on finace and real estate and they
both feel like they would like to pursue their careers in the South Pacific
Islands, which I guess I knew that was coming. I gotta say that Bonnie and I got
into this empty nest syndrome a little later than some of you and we miss Dan
like crazy. I am sure that none of you more "Seasoned" parents are going to tell
me that you miss them less as the years go by. You know, I think I am getting
too wrapped up in self pity and thinking about my future instead of Dan's so I
am going to close this, rethink the issue and figure out a way to make this
experience more positive for every one. I just miss my darn kid but I have to
get my arms around this thing in a manner that is about him and not about me.
I'm sorry.
Rich
Rich McKinney
San Diego, USA - Friday, November 09, 2007 at 16:43:48
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Since I have never done an autopsy, I cannot personally verify the truth of it,
but a friend of mine whom seems to know a lot tells me that if you use a cell
phone, and if you die, and if they autopsy your brain, it will be a different
color all around the part of your brain where you listen to the cell phone.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Friday, November 09, 2007 at 13:41:57
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I never realized that voting in an election is a daily activity, like the
postings on this site! I guess that I've really been out of the loop and a
slackard, democratically and socially! Take me to the nearest polling place and
get me the sheet music to Kumbaya right now! I feel so sorry for neglecting my
communal responsibilities.
s. muller
Pacpalcalusa, Earth - Friday, November 09, 2007 at 12:45:09
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I intend to use the word secutitizing at least three times tomorrow in order to
make it a permanent part of my vocabulary.
I agree with ALL of the Stu's as well as Jerry, Billy, Richey, and Carol...
Not posting is like not voting...
If you don't say it, you can't play it...
This site is like a blank blackboard every time you log on. You can add your
thoughts, share a site, offer a tribute such as to all who have served in any
capacity to our armed services...
You don't have to agree with the leaders to agree to support those who serve
them...
I never faced an enemy combatant, but I did train to do so if it had become
necessary. We have nothing to be ashamed about...
If you voted, you served...
Have a peaceful Veterans Day friends.
Guy Webb
Vantana, USA - Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 22:48:13
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What a nice posting Stuart M ... thank you!!! ;-)))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 21:50:16
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Jerry Carpenter - Billy Bak and I talk backward and too much!
Richie
richmckinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 21:35:21
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Not backwards, just too much.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 20:34:17
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No wonder Jerry talks backwards.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 18:16:49
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You don't have to write a book to benefit from reading or browsing through one.
You don't have to have your own talk radio show to enjoy and or benifit from
listening to one. It's like sitting at the side at a big party and listening to
the animated conversations without interupting. The party comes and goes, but
it's great to be able to come to this party with life-long friends anytime I
want. I check in 2-3 times a day. Party on Warriors!
Warm Regards to All
s
Stuart Muller
Pacpalcalusa, Earth - Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 17:55:02
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Stuart - Stop! Stop!...Put the teeth down! I was kidding for crying out loud!!!!
Richie
Rich McKinney
Sandy Eggoca, USA - Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 16:54:27
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Stuart Lurch Kern....You seem frustrated....Let me share with you what Jerry
Carpenter does when he is frustrated. He takes out his false teeth, turns them
around, puts them in his mouth and bites himself in the neck...Claims it takes
his mind off of anything else!!! Good luck with it, Buddy! Let me Know if you
need any other advice!
Richie
Rich McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 16:27:36
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There was a law, until several years back, that banks, brokerage houses, and
insurance companies could not be co-owned. They all lobbied Congress to change
the law. So Congress dutifully did. By reason of this change in the law, the
banks, brokerage houses, and insurance companies all now had an opportunity to
destroy each other, by making bad mortgage loans and then secutitizing them. So
they did. Now they are all in the same bathtub, along with us regular people,
but the bathtub is full of blood. So much for the business of America.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 15:19:04
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Me too.
I keep writing on various subjects, more often than not in response to other
postings, only to get a deafening silence at the other end. I really don't know
why and am starting to not much care. Therefore, I think I would be
well-disposed to limit my comments to private e-mails for a time because it is
painfully obvious that I am boring the hell out of some of you. Sorry.
Ready on the left. Ready on the right. The firing line is clear. Commence firing
at will!
Be well one and all.
Stuart Kern
- Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 14:22:52
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HERE, HERE BILLY!!!!
I'm bored with the SAME posters all the time!! Most of all ME!!
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 11:46:32
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"Gabby Hayes with a hangover"...priceless! Now I know what to buy you for your
birthday: blunt-tipped scissors and a magnifying mirror. (I'd give you mine,
but...)
Stuart Kern
- Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 04:23:31
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I am 55 and I am sticking to it. I bought Ranger Bill's "Youth Forever Program"
body paint kit and it is guaranteed or your money back.
I am ready for my close up Mr.DiNile. And that is not a goiter, I am just happy
to see you.........More lights please.......
<big><big>CUT, BILLY, THIS A'INT WORKING....SUCK THE TUMMY IN.....AND GET RID OF
THE NOSE HAIR....YOU LOOK LIKE GABBY HAYES WITH A HANGOVER FOR CHRIST
SAKES.......TAKE TWO!</big></big>
"Bobby, this guy is just an old geezer........why do you prop him up?......he is
a 65 year old has been....can't you get Justin Timberlake or maybe whats his
name from Friends?
<i>The guy is sleeping with Alice......what can I say? The bird rules the
roost.......we're stuck with him. </i>
"Damn, I should have never invited him to the Tiki Bar"
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Well, this is what happens when you don't contribute. Empty space filled up with
nonsense. Write your stories so we don't have to read crap like this.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Thursday, November 08, 2007 at 03:03:49
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Willard,
Math was never your strong suit...
Add up the year of your Ford convertible, its' Buick engine, the Chrysler
spinners, the coon skin aerial, the wolf whistle, ding-dong chime, cat's eye
tail lights, aooga horn, short cuffs on your Levi's, rolled up sleeve on your
T-shirt holding your Pell Mells, Jeb's charge card, Goodie's gift certificate,
Trumans' guest pass, Fat Eddie's free french fry fortune cookie, Dilly's banana
split ticket, Llo-Da-Mar Bowl pass, Zuckie's credit card, P.O.P. media junket,
the Long Beach Pike card, etc. Krumpler's.
guy webb
ventana, USA - Wednesday, November 07, 2007 at 23:27:37
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What is it about 65 that sounds one helluva lot older than 64? I suppose it
symbolizes being inescapably interred in geezersville, but certainly NOT in the
case of our Billy. You, my dear friend, are and always will be Silly 16...and
God bless you for it!
Stuart '57 Ragtop Kern
- Wednesday, November 07, 2007 at 20:32:31
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Thank you Guy and Ranger Bill will gladly accept hefty donations in large bills
(anything under a $50 bill confuses my accountant) in consideration for handling
our Islander's personal and valuable keepsakes. Of course, Ranger Bill is not
responsible for stolen or lost valuable items. However, everybody knows that
'trust' is Ranger Bill's middle name.
Oh Guy, there was one small error, yes my birthday is November 11th (thank you)
but I will be 55 not 65. I skipped a few grades. Oh, and please put the money in
a brown paper bag; I like to keep my personal finances to myself.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, November 07, 2007 at 14:43:49
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How about we make a digital calendar...
365 days to feature a different one of our vehicles, past, present, or Dream
Car...
Each day, from January 1st, to December 31st, could feature photographs (our
cars, our kids, our favorite places, pets, vacation spots, movie icons/favorite
film, anniversary, singers/songs, birthdays, remeberences, restauarants, views,
obituaries, tributes, awards, articles of clothing, meals, paintings, poems,
faux pas, Mardi Gras, pas a deux, et cetera...
Send you entry to RANGER BILL who turns 65 this coming Sunday, November 11,
2007. He has volunteered to scan all submissions and arrange them in
chronicological order and then have them printed and mailed to each of us in
time for the New Year...
A nominal service charge will be added for each entry, the proceeds of which
will go towards the "Stoned Rollers gather on Moss Beach" memorial granite
statue currently being created as a surprise...
Donations welcome...
Guy Webb
Vector, Ca USA - Tuesday, November 06, 2007 at 22:41:37
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Nice posting, Billy! A few add-on thoughts, if I may?
First, not only was Neville Brand a highly-decorated Marine, he was second only
to Audie Murphy as THE most highly-decorated serviceman in all of WWII.
Second, I thought Jimmy Coburn was the coolest of the lot. To me, McQueen worked
at it, but Coburn (and Marvin) didn't have to. Marvin was scary. He'd look at
you with those piercing blue eyes and say something in that voice that sounded
like it came thundering down from Mt. Olympus...the one in Greece, not L.A.,
thank you very much...and your heart would stop.
Third, I remember getting boxed in between Coburn and his wife in their matching
red 250GT SWB Berlinetta Ferraris while racing with them on Sunset in the middle
of the afternoon one day. As good a driver as he was...and he was...she was
better.
And finally, about good guy Paul Newman...he was probably the least affected
big-time movie star (and car guy) I ever met. I knew him from the long since
gone Executive Health Club on South Beverly Drive. He had a beautiful Porsche
Speedster which was a rocket. He used it in Harper, all painted out with
water-color by the studio prop guys to look like a beat-up jalopy.
Those were heady times, indeed. Thanks for the memories!
Stuart Kern
- Tuesday, November 06, 2007 at 15:39:33
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<small><small><small>Writer's strike forces us into reruns. This is a story that
aired back in November of 2002 on the Islander board. We will be back before the
strike breaks. We are not union, just clever.</small></small></small>
<center>************************************</center>
Rerun: First aired on Wednesday November 20, 2002 at 2:08 PM. This was a tribute
to the late actor James Coburn who died on November 18th 2002.
<center>******</center>
It is funny that you mention Steve McQueen Guy. The late fifties and early
sixties in
in Southern California from Malibu, Santa Monica, Beverly Hills and Hollywood
were filled with a new breed of actor. The actor moved from the back of a
limousine to the driver's seat; instead of a long black Cadillac, the young
males switched to motorcycles and sports cars. James Dean perhaps started the
trend while ending it with his life, but it was Steve McQueen who mastered the
new culture and brought Hollywood to the race track. *See Paul Newman below.
The "Great Escape" and later "Bullet" (Bullit) created a new individual freedom
of expression for young actors (and movie fans as well) as they interacted with
the new machines. I was lucky to be there at that time. There was (is?) a place
called the Four Oaks Cafe up in Beverly Glen Canyon off of Sunset Bld. between
Hollywood and Malibu. Many of the actors of that time would hang out up there to
get away from the general public at large.
The group, known as the "Santa Monica Gang" consisted of Lee Marvin, Steve
McQueen, Keenan Wynn, Smothers Brothers, Neville Brand, <i> James Coburn</i>
Nick Adams, Tom Pittman (he like Nick died early) and off and on guys like Mort
Saul, and other rising actors and comedians.
I had met Lee Marvin while I was in High School along with Steve McQueen at
Santa Monica Beach. A few of us high school guys would drag race down Sunset
Boulevard from Hollywood to Malibu. So did Steve McQueen and Nick Adams and most
of the other people mentioned above. They used to let us hang out with them
because we were '<i>car guys</i>'. Talking movies was off bounds; cars,
motorcycles and speed and how to go faster was the common bond.
We all used to meet for runs at least once a month (when they weren't filming).
Most of the runs consisted of riding the bikes from the Four Oaks Cafe where we
would meet and then head off to Malibu or sometimes Santa Barbara. I had a 1958
Mark Ariel Square Four motorcycle (English bike 1,100 cc/after if was bored out)
that I traded my 1953 Ford with a 1958 bored and stroked Buick. I could at least
keep up with the pack speed wise.
Most of the bikes were either English, Italian, or American made with a rare BMW
drive shaft cruiser (Coburn/Bob D-Amore's favorite) now and then. B.S.A.
Lighting Rockets, Triumph Bonnevilles, old Indians, Ducates, and H.D.s etc.
would stream down the highways on a lazy Sunday afternoon. Sometimes it could be
quite funny to see Lee Marvin stopped at a signal and some poor soul would look
over and recognize him from the 'Wild One'. The windows would roll up faster
than their eyes could blink. Lee would look back shaking his head.
After Steve McQueen's performance in the Great Escape,(I was now in the Marines
and would come home on leave) all of us riders got more daring, Steve emerged as
(quiet)leader of the dare-devil pack, but Coburn and Marvin were the ultimate
cool guys. You learned to keep your distance with a yes sir-no sir approach. Lee
Marvin and Neville Brand were ex-Marines (both highly decorated in WW11) and
were no nonsense kind of guys. James Coburn was much like his screen rolls;
kinda of like a sly Cheshire cat who knew all of the rules but didn't give a
damn (but not at the expense of others/barring fools); he was a gentleman's
rascal.
I was just a kid then, and being able to hang around those guys was a real great
experience and honor. They were all down to earth people....not a star in the
bunch. They put their egos into action and motion; not words, they were a new
breed. Good bye Mr. Coburn, you will always be "Our Man Flint".
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* <i>Even though Paul Newman was and still is a race car driver and part of that
era, I did not include him because I didn't have any personal experiences riding
with him. He however did live down the street from us in Mandeville Canyon.
Fabulous guy and one of the most talented and professional drivers around</i>.
November 20, 2002
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, November 06, 2007 at 13:47:31
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Anyway a funny thing happened to me on the way to..........What?, what writer's
strike......oh, never mind.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, November 06, 2007 at 01:43:22
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Blueberries:
"LOVE TURKEY...EAT FISH"? Are you kidding? Is there a dumber, less friendly and
more persnickety a creature than a turkey?
And one doesn't have to be a farmer to know the answer to that question. A
little time spent reading old message board postings will settle that question
once and for all.
Naturally however, I do exclude that most friendly of companions, Wild Turkey,
and I fully expect a loud and clear AMEN will be forthcoming at some point from
the Arizona badlands.
Stuart Kern
- Monday, November 05, 2007 at 21:37:34
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p.s. Please excuse my pour English. I meant to say "I done bidden farewell.."
What a stupid I am!
Sturat Kern
- Monday, November 05, 2007 at 21:04:38
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I cannot speak to that point, Cary, because when I realized I wasn't smart
enough to be a great lawyer, I bid farewell to the law books and never looked
back.
In my posting, I was merely responding to your and Paul's comments mirroring
Gladstone's well put "Justice delayed is justice denied." The fact that the 9th
Circuit Court of Appeals shamelessly kept the punitive award under wraps for so
long is now, finally over and whatever the Supreme Court ultimately decides,
this matter will finally be brought to conclusion.
I hope the Neo-Conservatives among us will forgive me for being suspect of what
to expect from the Roberts, Scalia & Thomas idea of justice for all.
Stuart Kern
- Monday, November 05, 2007 at 00:47:28
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I could be wrong, but as I understand the reasoning of the Supreme Court, when
the captain of the Exxon Valdez was putting away his five doubles in a Valdez
Bar before taking off from Valdez harbor, he was doing his drinking on the "high
seas", and punitive damages are not allowed for wrongful acts done on the high
seas.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Sunday, November 04, 2007 at 19:14:48
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Here I am on Sunday morning (I get week-ends off) wondering what to do with AN
EXTRA HOUR!!! My week-ends usually look like the race to the moon, trying in
vain to get "it all done". I have already spent my precious extra hour trying to
figure out how to manually re-set all my clocks that need adjusting.
I think I get Remembrance Day off next week-end. I haven't had the nerve to
actually ask my boss if we are going to get a 3 day week-end yet. But I sure
hope so. The job is fine - it's the getting up in the morning (not the time of
day, thats very reasonable - 7:00am) but its the feeling that the clock is
ticking away when I want to sit and enjoy my morning coffee on my porch looking
at my river. Things like that. I'll stop rambling now as I've used up my extra
hour already.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Sunday, November 04, 2007 at 14:47:02
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Carol,
Thank you. I had no idea that the Fire Department would re-set the clocks in our
smoke alarms. I wasn't even AWARE that there even WAS a clock in there... Do we
call 911, or is there a special number to get the FD to change the alarms from
Daylight Savings Time to Standard Time? Can they also get rid of that annoying
electonic claxon noise that the alarm makes and perhaps provide a soothing
Brahms' sonata? Does the clock on our computers automatically change the
batterys in the hard drive smoke alarm? For those of us who have quit smoking,
or have never smoked, should we be alarmed? If Bobby B. lives in the desert does
that mean he has to check the batterys in his hour glass sand? Where the HELL is
the alarm on our sun dial? Can the edit mode of our digital camera software get
rid of that intimidating red eye on the smoke alarms? What type batterys and how
many does the Queen need for Big Ben? I'm going to take a nap now, please call
when it is done. Thanks,
Guy
Guy Webb
USA - Sunday, November 04, 2007 at 12:54:21
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Now I know why Bob Brann spends his winters in Arizona ... he doesn't have to
mess with Daylight Savings Time. Bob, do you even own a clock??? ;-) And the
Fire Dept. says this is the time to also check those smoke alarms. Actually, not
a bad idea!!
Happy Daylight Savings Time ...
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Sunday, November 04, 2007 at 12:27:14
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Paul & Cary:
The long-delayed Exxon Valdez pot ain't $2.5 billion; with accrued interest all
these years, it's almost double that amount...$4.7 billion. And now, finally,
the U.S. Supreme Court has agreed to hear ExxonMobil's 13-year-old appeal which
has inexcusably lingered under the jurisdiction of the 9th Circuit.
I sure hope I'm wrong for your sake, Paul, and everyone else who was so severely
impacted by all that crude escaping into Alaska's once-pristine Prince William
Sound eighteen years ago. However, I for one am not particularly optimistic
about what the Conservative-dominated, pro-business Roberts Court is going to
decide.
I cannot help but be reminded of Republican President Calvin Coolodge's telltale
remark. Old Silent Call didn't say much, but his one utterance said it all in
describing a basic tenant of GOP doctrine, perhaps THE basic tenant, and I
quote, "The business of America is business." I'm not saying that is necessarily
good or bad, just that it IS.
I am going to take this opportunity to say something else. We are in the early
stages of what will most likely be one of the nastiest (and most entertaining)
Presidential nomination fights and general elections in memory. Everyone is
changing partners and chosing up sides like a dance at the gym shaping up to
become a knock-down, drag out rumble. And the worst thing about it all is that
the Cult of Personality...with its short-term attention span, but long-term
consequences...is starting to take over.
This ain't a popularity contest, folks. Whoever is elected President can only
serve for a maximum of eight years, but his or her selections for the federal
bench and most particularly the United States Supreme Court will live on.
Therefore, I ask you to consider this question: What kind of federal court
judges and Supreme Court justices do you want administering justice and deciding
the law of the land for your children and grandchildren? Ones who believe in
empowerment or in exclusion?
Please think about that as you pull the drape behind you at your local polling
place, leaving you to hold your nose at the choices being offered for President
of the United States.
Stuart Kern
- Sunday, November 04, 2007 at 01:01:59
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"A-MEN" to that Cary!!!!Hell Its been 18years. I will get some of the pie, but
not like some of my friends who remain in the Cook Inlet fishery. One
example--John, whos birthday was the 29th would have gotten 700,000.00 in Jan.
2008 Butt!!back to the court!! now the whole amount of 2.5 billion is in
jeopardy. Oil and Gas are not my favorite subjects. I paid 4.00 plus for fuel
this summer in Alaska. The fish prices have gone down from 2.80 per lb. To
62cents a lb.today. 2.80 reflects the year 1988. That was actually way to much
for our fish but 62cents is way low. Especialy when the consumer will pay as
much as 12.00 per lb. average price for Sockeye would be about 7.00per Lb. Eat
Fish and Love Longer!!!Northern Exposure was one of our favorite shows at that
time and our Raido station only lacks the Main street window.We do have a great
time doing the different shows.DJs "The Bus Driver"-"Surf Diva"-"RITA"-"Smooth
Shake"-"Bruce Almighty"or "The Blues Man" "Sto-away"-"Sea Frog in the
morning"-"The Kite Man"--"The boss lady" I think thats it? 11 miles is
stretching our broadcast distance a bit,more like 7 miles down wind.Some days we
have been heard 14miles south west!! I am Using Donovans music tonight--At my
Wifes request!!We have some 10-20 thousand tunes to choose from Old stuff
mostly--Legal!!!!!? Carol, it would be great to play some of your groups
music,send a cd Paul Groesse box 284 PB WA. 98571 "I cannot remember the name
Gals" sorry,MY BAD. I will Play with anyone--Sorry, Imean I will play any and
all MUSIC--Eddy Pond--YOU GOT MUSIC!! Still the Fisherman Paul
paul groesse
Pacific Beach, WA USA - Saturday, November 03, 2007 at 19:25:08
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I had an interesting and very pleasant experience earlier this week I would like
to share with you...
As I was leaving a local restaurant after having lunch, an elderly couple got up
to leave at the same time. I noticed the man was wearing a faded and well-worn
orange and navy blue baseball cap with a big "U" on the front and under it, the
word "Warriors." Naturally, I just had to ask him if by chance his hat was from
University High School. He replied yes, indeed it was.
He introduced himself as Joe Sedia and told me he was the varsity football and
baseball coach from 1963 until his retirement some years later. He also taught
the Leadership class as well.
It was wonderful to be able to exchange remembrances with him of Coaches Bob
Beck, Bill Spaetor, Tom Wilcox, A.J. Marvin, Milt Anisman and John Trump and
Boys' Vice Principal, Don Pelton, who I got to know pretty well... though not
nearly as well as Vince did.
Interestingly enough, my opinion of each of these men was pretty much consistent
with Mr. Sedia's. He told me the ones I most respected were good guys, devoted
to developing character in students and he conspicuously abstained from
commenting on who I thought were the authority-overlording creeps.
Anyway, that's my story and, if any of you have younger siblings who also
attended Uni, you might ask them if they remember Mr. Sedia. Nice man!
Stuart Kern
- Saturday, November 03, 2007 at 18:03:15
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Re: Paul Groesse message. Here's hoping that the knuckleheads on the Supreme
Court will stop messing with the Exxon Valdez case, so that the fishermen can
get some of their rightful money.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Saturday, November 03, 2007 at 18:03:13
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Paul, you remind me of Chris Stevens from <i>Northern Exposure<i>,</i>
television show back in the nineties. Chris was one of the characters who had a
radio show in Alaska; great show.
My wife Ellen used to be a disc jockey at KVMR in Nevada City. For being a small
little fm station in a small town buried in the Sierras in the middle of
nowhere, KVMR has a tremendous following (it is almost like a cult) and they get
top performers from all over the world to stop by the station. You never know
what kind of music they will play or who will show up. Cool.
I still have two frog legs left over if anybody wants them. They are starting to
smell so if you want them call soon.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Sierras, CA USA - Saturday, November 03, 2007 at 16:51:24
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Paul Groesse - I'm with you man, whatever you say!!!!!
Richie
Rich McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Saturday, November 03, 2007 at 12:20:53
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What a great posting, Paul! You may not think so, but what you have done is
removed us from a world too easily taken for granted to one which can only be
taken for granite.
Stuart Kern
- Saturday, November 03, 2007 at 02:25:31
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what is it that I must do to convince you that I am not of your species?!!! I
only play the human game to get sack time!! My special guest for my raido show
on Saturday night will be Donavan--sunshine superman and more. I am looking
forward to my interview with whoever will talk to me on Saturday!!! The local
weather has been great, we have reached 11 miles in all directions. Im not sure
how far out to sea that we can be heard. I will find out next week when crab
season begins. I must think of a playlist for the crabers. Maybe I should use
the same songs I play for the clampers--Clammers that live in campers!! or, even
the songs that I play for the metal heads who follow the clammers in
campers(searchers of lost treasures left in the sand by careless clampers while
searching for the clams)or maybe I will play my usual bus driver random requests
that is unless you give me a call at 360 276 0600--KXPB 89.1 on your FM dial!!
That could change the whole concept of Saturday Night. "Live from Pacific Beach
Washington Its Saturday Night" I hope everyone has had their fill of sugar and
looking forward to Turkey time! MAN! It never ends one big party after the other
big party!! Tell you what , Im getting too OLD for all this crap where are the
boneless chicken dinners??? Tomarrow is our favorite day !!!""Garage SALE
SATURDAY!!!"" we have almost bought enough stuff for our own !!!""Garage SALE
SATURDAY!!!"" I have always wonderd how much we lose from week to week? I will
also be watching Geese fly south tomarrow. NO BS this is a great LIFE!!! Pablo
the Pescador
paul groesse
Pacific Beach, WA. USA - Saturday, November 03, 2007 at 00:18:03
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What is the connection between July 28, 1945 and September 11, 2001?
Guy Webb
USA - Friday, November 02, 2007 at 22:00:29
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It seems, Herr Bakaleinikoff, zat your papers are not in order after all. Hands
UP!
Ubenfuhrer Karl
aka Stuart Kern
- Friday, November 02, 2007 at 13:51:24
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Honey, if Lurch wasn't Al Sharpton then who was that? Was that really Al?
"I don't know Bill, but was Lurch the tall blond that looked like Ann Coulter
with the swaztica on her forehead? Or was it a Shelly Winter's costume that went
bad?.......It scared me honey, .........I felt bad when the candle in the
pumpkin caught her dress on fire.......I never heard so much vile language in my
life. Who is Karl Rove?
It was just another Halloween dear, put out the lights and lets go to bed. The
children got their liver and that is what it is all about. There are two frog
legs left.......
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Friday, November 02, 2007 at 03:36:49
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Stuart:
Lurch laments your lurking likely will lead to a lynching by some less than
liberal libel-lovers longing to lobotomize me. Or, to put it a different way,
unless you want to start catching hell from some of the more straight-laced
among us thinking you are me, may I suggest you follow Carol's directive and
include your last name in all postings.
Forewarned is forearmed!
Stuart Kern
- Thursday, November 01, 2007 at 23:42:32
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Check Brez out, in Yahoo, under Existential Humor!
Start from the old and go to the new. I particularly like "Respite." Excellent
Job, Bob.:
http://www.youtube.com/user/moviesbybob
Enjoy
Stuart
90272-1015, USA - Thursday, November 01, 2007 at 22:17:39
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I'm lurking, Lurch!
Hi Royal Highness
Stuart
Pacplacalusa, Earth - Thursday, November 01, 2007 at 12:58:17
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Cary of Eugene:
I think we're on the same NSA list. It must have something to do with being a
Stewart or Stuart. I wonder if the Prince of the Palisades knows about this.
Don't tell him.
S.C. Kern
- Thursday, November 01, 2007 at 02:11:31
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Halloween is a good holiday, because you can get something good in the sack.
Even if you are ugly. Plus, if you don't like what you get, you can go next
door. In fact, you can do the whole neighborhood.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Thursday, November 01, 2007 at 00:23:19
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I didn't have to go Trick or Treating as Al Sharpton after all. I managed to
find an old SS uniform at an Oktoberfest swap meet in San Marino. So, after a
brief stop on the way home at a beauty supply shop in Compton to exchange the Al
Sharpton pompadour for a long blond wig, I was able to be the hit of the
neighborhood tonight gallivanting around with my goodies bag in one hand and an
unfurled Old Glory in the other...as Anne Coulter, of course.
Stuart Kern
- Wednesday, October 31, 2007 at 23:01:14
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Speaking of Happy Halloween.........
I found an ad today for a HAMMACHER SCHLEMMER catalog offering a 'SLIDE AND
NEGATIVE TO DIGITAL PICTURE CONVERTER' FOR $99.
Convert all of those Carousels of slides and negatives to a digital format so
you can observe them (the 35mm slides and negatives) on you computer or TV. They
also offer converters for 33 1/3 albums to MP players et al. Check it at
www.hammacher.com/slide
Guido
Guy Webb
USA - Wednesday, October 31, 2007 at 22:50:54
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Bill N.,
Aha, our Ranger Bill has drawn you into his web. Maybe you should do some
reading of past posts about and by Ranger Bill before you say that. I'm still
waiting for my Super Depends that only cost me $135.63 for two. Pair, not
packages. Seems a bit steep to my "other" friends. Caveat rumptor.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Wednesday, October 31, 2007 at 21:34:22
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Cary, Bill B., Susan, Jerry, Stuart--Thankyou for the kind words and the
welcome. It sure is nice to hear from you again. This time we'll stay in touch.
I've noticed that as you age, friendships, particuarly old friendships become
increasingly important. By the way, Bill B. You do my father's nickname, Ranger
Bill, honor.
Bill Norton
Bill Norton
Venice, Ca USA - Wednesday, October 31, 2007 at 20:10:41
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Looking into the matter further, I found out that this singer, Paul Potts, did
in fact win the talent show for the U.K., and signed a recording contract. If
anyone is interested in comparing his version of Nessun Dorma with Pavarotti's
Nessun Dorma, the two can be checked as follows:
Pavarotti: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONUCPKdGerk
Paul Potts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KO8yxu57NA
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Wednesday, October 31, 2007 at 19:48:37
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Hi Jerry, yes we were rocking and rolling last night up here in Moss Beach.
Nothing broke but the house was shaking like Elvis. We just had another one a
few minutes ago but it was fairly tame. Thank you for your concern.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, October 31, 2007 at 19:23:05
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Hope those of you close to Milpitas didn't suffer any physical damage from last
nights 5.6 shaker. Some of Evie's cousins live in that area and I'm wondering
about them. Figure Bill and Ellen got a minor thrill at 8:04! Moss Beach should
have been close enough.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Wednesday, October 31, 2007 at 17:21:01
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If your family is like the Bakaleinikoffs', Halloween is a fun time of the year
and trick or treating is a festive event that we all look forward to. Watching
those little faces dressed in their costumes at the door reminds us all of
ourselves almost 55 years ago. Ellen and I like to prepare the same snacks that
we used to find waiting for us at the door. Why don't you join us.
Welcome to the Bakaleinikoff Halloween kitchen where you can watch us prepare
our Halloween snacks for this special spooky evening. You may not recognize my
beautiful wife Ellen because she is dressed like Virgina Wolf. I choose to be
Sidney Greenstreet for tonight; costumes make everything more festive. Let's
start preparing our Halloween treats.
First, take a nine pound slab of cow's liver out of the fridge. Place it on the
cutting board and then slice it into 200 thin sliced strips, this should be
enough for a normal neighborhood of goblins and pirates. Children love the fresh
taste of raw liver. I will place these liver strips into a clean bowl while
Ellen takes the frozen frog legs out of the freezer. Flash frozen frog legs are
a real treat because when thawed they are real tender and juicy and the skin is
still a cheerful bright green. Forty frog legs should be enough for the average
trick or treat crews. Let the frog legs thaw for about three hours before
serving.
What child doesn't like sweets? Our next treat is our famous <i>Siberian Sugar
Balls</i> which also serve as a source of quick energy for our little troopers.
Merely take a 10 lb bag of sugar from the pantry......thank you Ellen, now pour
it into a large bowl or vat and simply pour a gallon of warm water into the bowl
or vat. Stir the sugar and water for about ten minutes until a lumpy texture
appears. Now form little balls (about 2 ounces each) and place them on cookie
sheets; let dry. Time for a glass of wine.
<center>THREE HOURS LATER</CENTER>
Well, we are now ready for the throngs of happy faces. Ah, there is somebody at
the door now...."<i> TRICK OR TREAT !</i>"...My my my ......who do we have
here......Wilt Chamberlin? "<i>No, I am Al Sharpton.."</i>.......Well here is a
frog leg and a strip of liver for you Al and don't forget the sugar
balls.......bye.
Honey, it was Stuart again.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, October 31, 2007 at 13:05:15
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Happy Halloween!
To those of you planning to go trick or treating, there are a few things to keep
in mind that only happen on All Hallows Eve: The uglier you look, the easier it
is to get some; whoever gives you candy will not be thinking you're somebody
else; and if you don't get what you want, you can always go next-door.
p.s. I'm going as Al Sharpton.
Happy Halloween
Stuart Kern
- Wednesday, October 31, 2007 at 02:17:42
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Thanks Jerry for your input. I noticed from my reaction to the two clips on that
site, and from the reaction of the audience and judges, how someone with a
"voice" can absolutely stun people, as this fellow's voice did me and as no
singer has ever done. I remember from the olden days that Joan Baez had a lot of
that ability.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Tuesday, October 30, 2007 at 20:23:28
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We've had some WONDERFUL postings lately and to me, this is what this message
board should be all about. Speaking of WONDERFUL, I just added a couple of GREAT
photos to "Mini-Reunions" ... go take a looksee!! ;-))))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Tuesday, October 30, 2007 at 09:46:33
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Cary,
I'm not qualified to compare but only to say that as one who is not into opera,
per se, his is a voice worth hearing and allowing to fill ones heart. And his
story ain't bad either. I hope he suceeds.
A few years ago I became enthralled with another classically utilized, though
not traditionally pure operatic, voice, that of Josh Groban. I first heard him
sing while on one of our last trips to.........anywhere. It was raining and we'd
just fought our way through Sacramento traffic, which always set me on edge, it
was raining, we'd been fighting wind and rain for 6 or 7 hours, Evie was in a
very difficult stage of the disease which made every moment a test of courage
and fortitude, we were escorting my oldest sister back to Oregon where she was
to see doctors that would confirm colon cancer, I knew it would likely be the
last time I would see her again, the world was crashing down around my head and
we hear this amazing voice singing in Italian and Spanish so full and expressive
it carried us the rest of this very difficult trip. I'd happened to tune in to a
PBS broadcast of Josh's first concert. After the trip back home to the Central
Coast I forgot about Groban and his music. Then a few months, or maybe it was
weeks, I don't remember, I turned on the t.v. to a PBS special and listened to
Josh sing again. I found out how to get his 1st 2 albums, got them and filled my
mind with beauty, fully compulsive I know, for as long as it lasted. Right
around that time, I think, Bob Brann called me on the phone and asked if I would
be interested in joining this website and coming to a reunion or picnic, and
gave me something else to help me make it through emotional horrors I'd only
wish on Satan himself. Now any time I need to release my mind and flush pain out
of my system I find those albums and one of Joan Baez', go into myself and feel
what I avoid most days to stay alive for whatever The Lord has for me next.
THAT'S what your singer can do for anyone that hears his voice. Thanks for the
reminder.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Tuesday, October 30, 2007 at 07:00:13
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While I am no expert in regard to voices, I am very much taken with the voice of
a singer whom I posted on this board earlier today. It would be very interesting
to me to receive any feedback as to how the voice of this un trained singer
compares with the voice of Luciano Pavarotti.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Tuesday, October 30, 2007 at 02:47:04
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This is what this place is all about. It is all about us, where we were and more
important, where we are now. Everybody has a fantastic story to tell. I never
knew what Bill Norton went through; just like he didn't know that I went through
the same thing.......and we grew up together. We were good friends and both
Jasons.
We are pretty lucky to be able to do this. Thank you Carol.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, October 30, 2007 at 02:35:28
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Your most recent posting, Guy, is more appropriate than you know. Here is why...
One night not too long ago, I found myself watching several videos made over the
years to accompany Don McLean songs. I was particularly taken with the choices
of images by different people for "American Pie" and I watched them
over-and-over I don't know how many times. The iconic poetry of "the day the
music died" and the images of the videos just wouldn't let me go.
As is often the case when I am exposed to something which I cannot immediately
pidgeon-hole, those common and yet somehow competing images rolled around in the
vast emptiness of my head for a couple of weeks. When the dust finally settled
and a unifying image emerged, it became the germ of my regretably ponderous
posting of very late this past Saturday night. It was well past 2 AM when I
finished it and I was too tired to even proof it. Unfortunately, the lateness of
the hour showed and, with the exception of Barry Bolger's much-appreciated
compliment, it failed to elicit any comments at all.
That's okay though because, in a curious way, I am coming to feel a sense of
vindication for some of my other, more strident recent postings in which I
defended my belief that it is the hot chili peppers and other spices thrown into
this message board cauldron which should attract, rather than scare off people
from our table.
With this in mind, I want to add my welcoming greetings to Barry, Teddy, Susan
and most particularly to Bill Norton, who I greatly admired when we got to know
one another a little bit as Jasons, who I missed after he and his family had
moved away, and who I very much enjoyed seeing again at one of Vince's
graciously-hosted Super Bowl parties.
Bill's father's experiences and their effect on the whole Norton family may well
bear out my contention that the America envisioned and articulated by Mr.
Jefferson was more fantasy than fact. Nevertheless, unless I am mistaken, it was
the very Constitutional guarantees which protected Bill's dad from being denied
the ability to provide for his family which are now under attack by some very
frightened and frightening people in positions of authority for which they are
clearly unqualified. As has been alluded to here, isn't it curious and
reassuring how some of the very people who have been the most damaged by the
abuse of power continue to be the most optimistic and least cynical?
And to you, Richie, I guess now you're gonna' have to find another use for that
telescope other than peering through your distant neighbors' bedroom windows,
aren't you? Try the night sky instead. It's that dark stuff above the land and
the lake. (Seriously, what a sense of relief we all feel to have heard the good
news from you and Bonnie!)
Stuart Kern
- Tuesday, October 30, 2007 at 01:25:41
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Google
"Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band"...
then pull up the Islander's Class picture...
then cue up "The Day The Music Died"...
then put on your copy of "Bye, Bye, Miss American Pie" (I know, same song...)in
your music player of choice...
and fill in the names, an recite the words, and know...
"I Love You"
Guy
guy webb
ventura, ca USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 23:09:59
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Google
"Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band"...
then pull up the Islander's Class picture...
then cue up "The Day The Music Died"...
then put on your copy of "Bye, Bye, Miss American Pie" (I know, same song...)in
your music player of choice...
and fill in the names, an recite the words, and know...
"I Love You"
Guy
guy webb
ventura, ca USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 23:09:25
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Oh yeah, forgot.
Rich,
Anyone who has read your previous posts fully understands you care more for
people than things. Things are nice and I'm glad you still have yours but you've
proven way beyond any doubt that you're real. Would have to guess Bonnie has the
credit for that since you were such "trailer trash" (yeah, .....right).
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 23:05:45
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Billy N.,
The courage and strength of your family's spirit to go through all that and wind
up with a positive outlook is proof of what Cary said, but in my favorite words
"What don't kill us makes us stronger." I'm from an Okie background.
Thanks for inspiring me.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 22:59:13
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Welcome to our message board Bill Norton, and thank you so much for what you
have shared. When I told Teddy Gerstl about the experience of knowing, as
adults, the people we grew up with - the strongest feeling was how REAL,
genuine, caring, supportive, ego-less everyone is now. Everything has fallen
away, and what remains is the true essence of each person. It is really
beautiful, and a treasure I think we all appreciate.
Thank you for your story, and welcome back....
Susan
Susan (Sidy) Zepkin
Sedona, AZ USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 22:32:17
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Bill, your post was very moving and what a pleasure to hear from you again. I
didn't know what you were going through at the time but I do remember (the story
is legend) when we drove up to your dad's new assignment in Morro Bay after
leaving Will Roger's State Park.
I think it was myself, Doug Rhorbaugh, Bob'D'Amore, Mike Ripps, and the Fischer
Twins (I hope I didn't murder the last name too much) who drove up to spend the
weekend with you. We had all seen the movie Physco the week before and we pulled
up to your farm house in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere. The
house looked just like the house in Physco. That was one of the funnest weekends
we ever had in high school. Every time we get together that trip always comes
up. More to come about the weekend later.
Last year on the way back from L.A. after our high reunion Ellen and I stopped
by trying to find your old place; she wanted to see it because she heard so much
about it and I have brought your name up many times in the past. We ended
staying the night in Cayucas (spelling?). Anyway, it was great to hear from you
on the board........you had a lot more friends at Uni then you thought.
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On another note of friendship, Ellen and I had a wonderful afternoon with Tim
and Jorie Ellis today. What a beautiful couple and it was one of those magic
moments that come when seeing old friends for the first time in forty years or
so. Look for photos on the mini reunion.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 22:11:31
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Bill Norton: Welcome! Thank you for your very very moving and compelling story.
It seems as if these ordeals in life don't kill you, they make you stronger.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 22:10:18
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Richie,Glad you are ok. We were in San Diego sunday when the fires started in
the Santa Clarita. I talked to my daughter inlaw several times during the day to
find out how bad it was. It didn't get close to my home but the smoke was
terrible. Gene and I have been looking at homes in Olivenheim and Rancho Santa
fe to move closer to our daughter and the next place was Poway, funny but I
think I'll stay put and deal with earthquakes, at least it doesn't destroy
everything.
pam gilchrist willen
valencia, ca USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 22:09:46
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Some of you probably remember me—Bill Norton. I went through Paul Revere but
left Uni after the tenth grade. I check in on the web site from time to time,
skimming through months of postings, curious about the lives of people I haven’t
seen in almost fifty years. Yesterday I caught a 9/26 posting by Bill
Bakaleinikoff in which, prompted by a discussion of Ken Burns, WW2 heroism, and
the internment of the Japanese, Bill told of the courage of his stepfather Misha
who fought against the “reign of terror” inflicted on Hollywood liberals by the
late Senator Joseph McCarthy and his House Un-American Activities Committee-
HUAC.
Bill’s words moved me and inspired me to make my first posting and reveal, right
here and now, the darkest secret of my teenage years which is that.----the
reason I left Uni after the tenth grade was that my father, had been called as a
witness by HUAC. Like Bill’s stepfather, Misha, he refused to name names and
basically told them to go to hell. But what his defiance cost him, or almost
cost him, was his job. At the time he was a state park ranger in Will Rogers
State Park where my family also lived. Since he had broken no laws, the state
couldn’t fire him, but they could make his life miserable by transferring him
from park to park until either he would quit or his family would break up.
Hence, in the space of three years, I went to four high schools, Uni,
Birmingham, San Luis Obispo, and Huntington Beach. In many ways it was a rough
journey, I don’t have the kind of lifelong high school friend connections that
many of you have. But, on the positive side, I developed the ability to adapt
and make friends quickly. My first rule of adaptation in those years was: Do not
reveal that, at the end of WW2, as a twenty one year old combat veteran, my
father had joined the communist party.
Basically, my father was an idealist. I remember being told, “Billy, when you
grow up, there will be no more war.” “Negroes and Whites will be equal”. (He was
also a pioneer member of the NAACP.) Best of all, I was told, “Socialism will
put an end to poverty.” From the perspective of almost fifty years, his words
seem hopelessly foolish.
Still, they were well intended, aimed at improving the world, certainly non
violent, and in no way deserving of the harassment our family suffered from HUAC
and the FBI. Yes, that’s right. I hate The Patriot Act.
In 1961, the State Park service transferred my dad one last time, from Morro Bay
to San Clemente state park. After a few months there, he sold his first
screenplay then started a long, successful career as a screenwriter, which is
what he wanted to be doing all along anyway. (I followed his example and am a
director.) He is still alive and only 82. He remains a hopeless idealist and
optimist about the defeat of poverty, war and racism but has renounced what he
calls “the bullshit of Marxism.” He says that it is an unworkable system that
defies human nature and that the “dictatorship of the proletariat” is just that,
a dictatorship. He lives in Santa Barbara and when I talk to him, I call him by
an affectionate nickname that many years ago, Peter Dane gave him—“Ranger Bill”.
So, Ranger Bill Bakaleinikoff, what do you think of that? There are two of you
out there.
Bill Norton
Venice, Calif.
Bill Norton
Venice, Ca USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 21:03:06
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Rich,
From what I've seen of who you've become you have EVERY RIGHT to ANYTHING you
want and can get. When you EARN it, you DESERVE it, no qualms. Yeah, yeah, I
know. A mutual admiration society here. Tough. It's true.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 20:35:08
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Jerry Carpenter, Susan Sidy, Carol Blueberries, Billy Bak....Thank you all so
much for sharing your concerns about our safety...We never has any concerns
about our personal safety but we came terribly close to losing our home. There
were three firemen on our deck when we left. My neighbors home is about 100
yards east and he has a wood deck. 20 ft tall flames were within 50 ft, the fire
would have gone straight up the hill to our home. I asked the firefighters if
there was any chance to save our house. To his credit, he gave me an honest
answer, which was pretty much "No Way", but he said that if the wind started
blowing SouthWest in the next hour, there was a small chance, and that is
exactly what happened, and our neighbors house was also saved. I had to leave
for Wyoming Tuesday to help out my Aunt and I did not get home until Saturday.
One thing I want to clear up..When I mentioned the fact my view to the east was
now 7 fireplaces without houses I hope no one got the feeling that I was at all
concerned about our view, my concerns were solely about Friends who live in 3 of
those homes. They were already evacuated but their concern was because the
insurance companies may decide the area is too "Fire Sensitive" and not allow
them to rebuild in this area, and with all due modesty it is really an
incredible location. We have an in your face view of Lake Hodges looking toward
Rancho Santa Fe to the west. Our view to the east is of 7 mountain ranges going
all the way to Julian, which is where the desert begins. Our lot is an acre and
almost all of the homes are at least an acre or more away from the next house.
It was never a tract and every house is different and individually owned, which
keeps the developers and the Homeowners committees out, Thank God! (BUT, WHY DO
YOU NEED A DECK??) (I don't NEED the damned thing, I WANT the damned thing!!)
Why, it would be very similiar to the one on your stinking house....Oops, Sorry,
got a little carried away there. Gotta go for now.....Welcome to what seems like
an incredibly interesting group of new ISLANDERS!!
Luv Ya and Miss Ya!
Richie
richmckinney
san diego, USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 19:34:33
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Words well put Stuart!
B˛
Barry Bolger
Henderson, NV USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 15:59:47
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Interesting video at
http:///www.maniacworld.com/Phone-Salesman-Amazes-Crowd.html
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 13:38:21
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Hi Teddy and Welcome!! You didn't come thru the usual channels to get to this
message board, so I don't have any information (address / email, etc.) for you.
Would you please email me Carkie@Bendbroadband.com as I would LOVE to add the
kiddies' names to the Westwood photo!!
Richie ... sooooo glad you are safe & sound. I understand San Diego is due for
another Santa Ana this weekend ... will keep the prayers going!!
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 12:59:51
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Glad it hear the house and dogs are ok Richie, I am also sorry about your
eastern view. We live with that fear every summer with the Sierra house.
Welcome Teddy, I see you are from my wife's families neck of the woods. We keep
threating to move to Northern Italy too but the euro keeps gaining (more like
soaring higher and higher everday) on the dollar. We both love Italy and my wife
Ellen speaks Italian. Looks like we will have to settle for Northern California
and Hawai'i.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 11:58:10
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Happy to hear that Richies home is safe. Very hard to watch the news from a
distance and wonder about all of our friends and family who live in the areas of
fire. I called Nancy Viller (also in San Diego) and they were okay. (By the way,
she and her hubby Steve are passing through Sedona this coming weekend and we
will see them.) Arline Tepper and her husband Harry traveled through Sedona on
their way to the Grand Canyon, and came to visit us. She is the one who told me
about Teddy Gerstl, who is now living in Tuscany. I know Teddy long before
Webster, from a local youth group. In the past week we have exchanged letters,
and pictures, and talked on the phone too!! It is so wonderful to reconnect with
old friends, as all of you on this message board know. Teddy said he can fill in
some of the ?? on the Westwood Elementary picture, so perhaps someone will want
to get ahold of him.
Brian and I recently returned from a month in Costa Rica. We had a marvelous
time, traveled like a couple of 25 year olds, and really saw the country and got
to mingle a lot with the locals. Carol...did you get the pix I sent to you?
Sending a warm "hello" to all...
With love, Susan
Susan (Sidy) Zepkin
Sedona, AZ USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 11:48:04
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Welcome Teddy!!
Tuscany, huhb? Must be hard to take. Sounds great. You'll enjoy all the ol'
kooks here. We're still a diverse group. Except SOME of us are pretty
curmudgeonly. Welcome.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 08:04:04
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Rich,
So sorry you and Bonnie had to go through that but SO GLAD YOU'RE SAFE!! Just
looked at the map and the fire perimeters and SO RELIEVED for you and Bonnie.
Sorry I'd lost all your contact stuff last year and couldn't have called you
even if I could have gotten through all the jammed phone traffic. I'd had to do
text messages to Frank to check on him and his fiance because voice was so
swamped. So relieved Buddy!!
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 07:55:24
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Dear Islanders, especially from Westwood Elementary School and Daniel Webster,
I was contacted last week, after all these years, by Sue Sidy. What a delightful
experience, recalling and reminiscing about our past and our mutual friends. She
also introduced me to the Islanders' website and I've reacquainted, at least
visually and mentally, with so many names and faces from fifty or so years ago.
I would love to hear from any of you who remember me. My wife (Candy Schwartz,
from Hamilton High) and I are living in Italy (Tuscany.) We moved here almost 12
years ago, having bought an old abandoned stone farmhouse from the 1400s,
overlooking the Mediterranean Sea. We return to Los Angeles during the winter
and it would be lots of fun to reconnect. My e-mail address is
luppolo@geniusnet.it
With warm regards,
Teddy
Ted (Teddy) Gerstl
Pieve a Elici, LU Italy - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 05:45:04
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Sorry I have not posted'''Jost got in from Wyoming hhelping my aunt-- We have a
house...but after we were evaci=uated we didn't know for 3 days..The
firefighters( Goc Bless Them!) WERE NOT OPTIMISTIC...fLAMES 20 FEET HIGH 30 FEET
AWAY FROM MY NEOGHBORS wood deck, his house a 100 yards from mine...The house
survived bvut our geaorgeous eastern view is 7 chimneys that used to be million
dollar plus view homes but we are ok and we saved the dogs, and that is what is
realy important....Hug your kids and your pets and kiss a firefighter...Love you
all
Richie
Rich McKinney
san diego, USA - Monday, October 29, 2007 at 00:20:12
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As a long time contrarian, I decided years ago to go against the grain and fall
forward and spring back…
Not only did this save me the inconvenience of re-setting my watch, all of the
digital clocks in the house, the analog clock on the T-Bird, the huge hands on
the Big Ben tower in our back yard, hiring illegal’s hanging around at the local
LOWES to wrestle the granite sun dial into its new position and to shift the
Stonehenge and Easter Island monoliths arrayed in our circular driveway into a
new and arbitrary arrangement, all so WAL-MART can stay open a little later…
Ranger Bill is onto something with his questions regarding the storage of all of
the saved hot air. My theory is that our crafty president has funneled it all
into Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter, cleverly hiding them in a snow cave under
the polar ice caps. As the oceans rise, it will become easier to gerrymander all
of the land that remains above water by simply pushing it up the Gulf of Mexico
to Texas, vastly increasing the president’s land and oil holdings.
Rush is expecting to give birth any day now…
Guy Webb
USA - Sunday, October 28, 2007 at 15:02:58
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Yea, come to think of it, where is all this <i>day light savings</i> time
stored? I mean it has been going on for decades so there has to be a lot of
<i>daylight</i> stored someplace. Does it keep warm by itself or is some
government agency keeping it heated. It must be costing us tax payers big bucks
to fund the saving of <i>daylight savings</i>. Are we ever going to get it back
or is the government going to just hoard it?
And just how do you turn back an hour? Just because we moved the clock hands
back how do we know the hour really changed? What if the hour said no and didn't
turn back? We could be a lot older than we think. Does this worry you too?
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Sunday, October 28, 2007 at 14:15:52
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Blueberries (Carol),
They extended daylight savings through NEXT Sunday. Other than as a very young
kid, I always hated changing the clocks (just to benefit commerce, which is the
ONLY reason it is still practiced). Savings of energy or lives from traffic
accidents have turned out to be false hopes.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Sunday, October 28, 2007 at 13:32:12
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I still want to know if members like Rich McKinney in the fire areas are safe
and undamaged. Nobody's saying anything about it.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Sunday, October 28, 2007 at 12:55:14
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I am sure that Diane gets excited when she sees us "regulars" post too ... right
Diane????? ;-))))
I completely agree ... a "kinder / gentler" website is the best. If Missy
(Vernette) one of our originals to the website, doesn't want to come back
because of all the bantering/arguing going on, then we definitely need to clean
up our act.
My computer thinks it is Daylight Savings Time ... it is an hour off ... anyone
elses do that????
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Sunday, October 28, 2007 at 12:15:46
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This posting attempts to address several recent postings, as well as Cary's
lament of yesterday about the lack of sportsmanship displayed in the stands in
the Ducks/Trojans football game.
I suppose what follows will be considered esoteric or rambling by some,
hypocritically preachy by others and maybe just plain horse s--- by still
others. I'd rather characterize it for what it is: A sincere and continuing
concern of a not altogether stupid or unaccomplished man.
In my opinion, what's wrong is symptomatic of a society in freefall. You can see
it anywhere and everywhere you look. It's right here on this message board and I
am as guilty of letting it happen as anyone, maybe even more so.
Who are we and how did we let all of this happen? Aren't we the sons and
daughters of "the greatest generation" who made such sacrifices for us?
Yes, we are, but we are also a generation of astronauts, taking up space as well
as being lost in it. No wonder so many our progeny have no appreciation of or
respect for anyone but themselves and display an almost total
self-absorption...because they are who we became in the unchallenged prosperity
of the 1950's and the years of confusion-denying, authority-questioning,
self-indulgence which followed.
It started happening for some of us with "Rebel Without a Cause", for others
"the day the music died." The turning point for most of us though, regardless of
our political leanings at the time, was November 22, 1963. That was the day the
vision of America that came out of Thomas Jefferson's head...that we all grew-up
believing as being absolute...was blown to bits with President Kennedy's head.
And for a long, long time thereafter, whether we admit or not, as a nation, as a
society, as "mankind's last, greatest hope", we are still struggling without
success to put Humpty Dumpty back together again. Why can't we do it? Because it
was a fairy tale, just as Camelot was.
Reality, however, was and remains too hard for some people to face. Denial was
far easier for the Liberals, as cynicism was for the Conservatives. Those
positions only hardened over time as that terrible day in Dallas was followed by
the equally violent and senseless deaths of Dr. King and Robert Kennedy; by the
loss of 58,000+ American GIs in the jungles and skies over of Vietnam; by the
felonious disgrace of one President being forced from office and the impeachment
of another; by the preventable events and horendous loss of innocent lives of
9/11; and by the ultimate hubris...the perhaps well-intentioned, but tragically
ill-conceived decision to attack, wage war against and occupy another soverign
state and in the process of doing so, giving away the all-too-precious moral
high ground by commiting and condoning the very crime we have hung war criminals
for commiting: Torture.
To those of you with deeply-felt Conservative views, please know and believe
this is NOT intended as a political statement so much as it is a request of you
to thoughtfully weigh the actions of Bush/Chaney administration on your own
personal values scale of right and wrong...and NOT your understandable
repugnance of the alternative Liberal throw-more-money-at-it political
philosophy and some of its most vocal and obnoxious proponents. Similarly, to
those of you who wear the label of Liberal as a badge of honor, you should take
no comfort in these comments either because you have so pissed-off much of the
electorate by historically taxing and taxing the earners to pay for the
freeloaders that the one-time solid Democratic union member voting block
re-elected a known nincompoop as President of the United States, rather than the
phony you put up to challenge him.
So how does all of this translate into something as comparatively innocuous as
civility towards people whose views are different than our own? Easy! Have any
of you ever heard of a sitting Vice President and the President of the United
States Senate telling a member of the loyal opposition in the Senate chamber to
go F--- himself? No? Well, that is EXACTLY what Dick Cheney told Patrick Leahy
to do...and he got away with it.
And anyone wonders why college football fans behave badly or why people on this
message board (myself included) seem to somehow forget to give even grudging
consideration to and respect for the postings of those whose ideas we don't
share? Granted, as with just about any group, invariably there will be a few
"independent thinkers" who make the rest of us roll our eyes or scratch their
heads in disbelief when reading some of their postings. Personally, I believe
those postings do more to scare people away than anything else. However, as
Vernette recently asked of us in so many words, let's not let the fact that we
are so desensitized to what's going on around us make us lose our humanity to
boot. So, let's see if we can all raise the bar of consideration for one another
a little higher. I will do my part. Will you do yours?
Thanks for your attention and enjoy your Sunday!
p.s. If there are any typos in this (and I'm sure there are), it's too late and
I'm too tired to find and correct them. I stay after class tomorrow and clean
all the blackboards and erasers. Okay?
Stuart Kern
- Sunday, October 28, 2007 at 05:07:51
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Barbara,
NO-ONE associated with this website could or would forget any member, much less
you. Your participation here is as valuable as ANYONE elses. We all tend to
neglect those we care about, however foolish that is to do. We allow those that
don't post for a while to have the vacation of their own choosing even though we
wish everyone would post every day or two. But be assured you are valued. Best
to your application process and be well and comforted.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Saturday, October 27, 2007 at 23:57:44
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Stuart (Kern),
What a wonderful compliment you gave recently to me and other posters. Thanks!
Billy B. and Diane,
Thanks for you words too. I was a bit anxious to "tune-in" to our group thinking
that maybe you all had really forgotten me (except wonderful Carol who never
forgets anyone on or off this site). But reading your greetings made my anxiety
go away.
I'm applying for my Old Age Pension this week. Since I wasn't born in Canada I
have to PROVE that I have lived here the required amount of time to be eligible
for the OAS. And of course I'm doing one of my numbers on myself - what if they
don't accept my proof??? I'll be glad to get it over with.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Saturday, October 27, 2007 at 22:48:14
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For your viceral pleasure (and suitable for work):
The mosy dangerous place in the world to bungee jump!
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=703_1193166092
Saudi’s Love their Sand:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ed5_1192575213
It's a dog and cat thing:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=77a_1192736100
Fondly,
s
S. Muller
Pacplacalusa, Earth - Saturday, October 27, 2007 at 22:06:48
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College football has always seemed a little bit removed from the dog eat dog
world. But it was embarrassing to me to see the Oregon cheerleaders holding up
signs for the crowd to make "NOISE" when the USC team had the ball, in order to
make it hard for the USC team to hear the count. What has ever happened to
sportsmanlike behavior?
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Saturday, October 27, 2007 at 19:23:15
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I just talked with my brother Dave, and he told me that the fire in San Diego
county came quite close to his properties in Bonsall and Escondidio, They c ould
see the flames. He had numerous vehichles,animals(llamas,
horses,cats,dogs,birds,etc.). His wife Jill has an extensive collection of old
movie posters and tin toys from the twentie,thirties and fourties. Thankfully
all survived. He had been expeting to evacuate to hie new property wher he is
building his dream house, but was prevened from doing so by the fire authoritys.
fourtunatly that property survived also. My heart goes out to those who lost
dreams in the fire.
Hal Thorburn
Orange, Ca. USA - Saturday, October 27, 2007 at 13:55:05
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<big><big> LIVE COVERAGE FROM UNI HIGH CENTRAL NEWS</big></big>...We are working
on the power outage as we speak, our on the spot reporter has spoken with the
powers that be and apparently there has been a glitch in their internet
connection.......people can't seem to get through....I think we are breaking up
again........hello, hello can you hear us out there?
"Louie, relax, everything is plugged in......they are boycotting Ranger Bill
again.........maybe we just should pull this guy from the lineup......this is a
family show....guys like Groucho and Carlin don't fit in here....you know what I
mean?........they want Perry Como...cut the guy loose....Hey, didn't Marie
Osmond just pass out on Dancing With The stars?......I'll bet you her agent
would pay big bucks to let her take over Ranger Bill...Yea that's it, tell Billy
B or whatever that guy's name is and tell him he is through.....We'll turn this
back into a family program.....copy Vince and Peter on this....yea, the value
pitch always works. Oh, break it to him at dinner or something like
that.......maybe buy him a toy car.....that freak still plays with toys. Oh, and
get Oral Robert's senior on the phone.....That man has something to say......but
don't let him near the bar"
Man, showbiz is a bitch.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Saturday, October 27, 2007 at 01:01:53
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Stuart...you are so right...I'm always excited to see postings by Barbara, Hal,
Tekla, Paul and a few others who pop in once in a while...Barbara, so glad you
are fine, I was wondering how you were as you had not posted in a while...Good
to hear from you. Jerry, wish you posted more...I love your words of wisdom. How
are you feeling? Isn't it GREAT not to smoke?? Richie, hope you and your family
and home are o.k., let us hear from you as soon as you are able....been thinking
about you everytime they say Escondido...and you too Connie Gerlough if you read
this board, please let us know how you are doing...Connie also lives in
Escondido. Stay safe dear friends...Please add our classmate Gene Horner's
beautiful wife Kris to your prayers, she was recently diagnosed with Stage 4
ovarian cancer...I know she will beat this with her positive attitude and Gene's
loving care and the prayers of her family and friends.
Hugs, Diane
Diane Graveline Johnson
Huntington Beach, Ca USA - Friday, October 26, 2007 at 10:50:23
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I don't know if I am the only one who feels this way, but I am invariably struck
by the selflessness and openess in the all too infrequent postings by Paul,
Barbara, Tekla and Hal. It is almost as though they unknowingly remind me what
this website is supposed to be...high school without the hormones.
Yes, we all bring baggage with us, but these nice people somehow manage to leave
it at the door and enter with only well-worn passports.
Stuart Kern
- Friday, October 26, 2007 at 01:54:09
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If we were all sitting in a room somewhere just talking about stuff and things,
I would be wondering when I could get my two cents into the conversation?!!! So,
there is a break in the collective thoughts and now is my chance to say
somthing! Bob I have seen nervana and it was hash not pot and is was no big
deal!!!!!!!!!! Congradulations to Mike And Melantha. I have been married for 31
years and it is still a work in progress. And the great thing about life, it is
a wonderful never ending work in progress. All the things that we have
experienced the lives we have touched and the lives that have touched us!!Its so
great to be one part of the collective experence. Just think of the book we
could write togeather! I like to read all the postings but I have to admit that
I am always looking for the ones that remind me that I was part of
Brentwood;Paul Revere; The Dukes--the other life I once was part of and still am
part of and the way I look at life because of my past is who I am. What did he
say? I try to save as much time in my life for myself and try to deal with my
surrounding world with humor and understanding that the HUMAN RACE needs MORE
practice, and I hope we have the time? I will never under stand where half of
you are comming from in your postings and thats the way it is! But ido have a
great time trying to understand. If I had all the answers I probably wouldnt be
here.-I remember sitting on the roof of my parents house in Brentwood with a
water hose while giant tankers dropped retardent up on tigertail and watching
houses burning down within a couple of blocks---very unreal! I hope all of you
that are involved with this desaster are OK! Im still driving school bus-doing
my raido shows and playing host and husband at our Bed And Breakfast. No
retirement plans for the future,Hell, cant afford to retire Unless the price of
fish goes up--lots up!!! Your old friend "THE FISHERMAN" Paul
paul groesse
P.B., WA. USA - Friday, October 26, 2007 at 00:14:47
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BEAUTIFULLY said Guy, BEAUTIFULLY said !!!
BIG HUG, Diane
Diane Graveline Johnson
Huntington Beach, Ca USA - Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 23:04:00
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I would like to think that each and every one of the visitor's to this site,
whether it is to check out the latest posting, or to catch some shared insight,
or to add to the lore, or to fill in a name or a date or a place, will also
endeavor to cover our collective backsides...
If I cheer for UCLA on Saturday, I don't expect to read trash from a USC fan
here. Be true to your school. Back whomever you choose, just don't blow off
someone who opts to cheer for the opponent...
If you spam someone on this site, you are also spaming me...
Choose your battles wisely. You are not anonymous here, nor are you privilidged,
other than being an honored and respected member...
If your contribution should actually be an E-mail, do so. We are individuals
here. There are other sites dedicated to multiple personalitys.
An old Marine Corps motto is " If you.... with the bull, you get the horns"...
Tread lightly...
Guy Webb
Ventana, USA - Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 22:42:37
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We are going to Mike & Melantha's for dinner tonight. Jim & Gloria (our realtors
and friends) are going to be there also and because I got sick and was supposed
to be the Flower Girl at their wedding last month, M & M are going to recreate
their wedding for me tonight!! I helped get them together and inspired them to
move to Bend and they LOVE each other & LOVE Bend, so that is why I was supposed
to be the Honorary Flower Girl!! ;-)
Mike ... think I'll be the front end of that Elk ... don't want to be the "butt"
of jokes!! ;-)))) See youse two soon!!
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 19:19:25
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There is an interesting op ed piece in the L.A. Times today, entitled "One Flew
Over The White House", which makes the point that the proper remedy for
presidential and vice presidential madness is not impeachment, but rather, the
appointment of guardians for them.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 18:04:26
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Richie:
As a follow-up to my still unanswered e-mail, PLEASE tell us you and Bonnie
didn't lose your home.
Stuart Kern
For Everyone, - Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 15:30:32
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I don't watch much television let alone day time television so I had no idea
what the '<i>View</i>' is all about.
I finally had to google it to see why this television show was so popular in
Salem Oregon. Well at least it explains Peter's favorite tee shirt
(<small><small>We never knew what it meant</small></small>) that he always
wears.....
<big> <CENTER>I RODEO WITH ROSIE O'DONNELL</CENTER></big>
<center> <big><font color=green>Go Salem!</font color=green> </big> </center>
<center>************************</center>
Hi Barbara! Just remember this, we are spending those young pups social security
checks.
<center>********************</center>
Carol, wear the front part of Mike's costume, Lurch wore the rear part last year
and ended up joining the <i>Elk's Club</i>
<center>*************</center>
Stuart M.......bring the Spam.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 15:02:51
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You're right Carol, we transplants have to stick together. And, in that vane,
Melantha and I have a Halloween costume for you so you can join us on our forest
hikes. Do you want to be the front or back of the elk.
Anyway, we'll give you and Steve a chance to decide when you come over for
dinner tonight.
Hope the fires are under control in So Cal. You're right Bill we got ought just
in time. But Melantha and I did experience quite a few fires and very close
calls over the years when we both lived in Malibu so we can relate to what
people have been going through.
Bob, I think trying to segment or divide the postings into subject matter,
either alphabetically or by category is more problematic than is seems on paper.
Would your posting be under "I" for Illegal, "I" for Iraq, "I" for invasion, "I"
for Ignorant (as in Bush) or "W" for war"? See where I'm going with this?
Billions of options and just as many subjects for postings.
We're here and will support you and I'm interested in seeing where this ends up.
In the mean time, we'll be with Stuart in the upper patio.
Mike & Melantha
Mike & Melantha Bobrick
Bend, CA USA - Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 13:20:28
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R.I.P
Michele Scheiperpeter of Pacific Palisades, wife of Carl Scheiperpeter, daughter
of Bonnie and Wally Miller, sister of Jeff and Lisa Miller, all of Pacific
Palisades.
Carl and I both work for the City of Ventura Public Works Department. Services
for Michele are at Our Lady of Assumption Church in Ventura at 11AM Friday,
October 26.
R.I.P. Michele
Guy Webb
Ventura, USA - Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 10:42:48
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Bob ... well beins' it is a done-deal, I think we should have a "Political
Forum" section. I have told Bob, that I feel I do enough on this website and
therefore, will not monitor any other forum / message board. So, if there are
any typos or the message board has turned into all tiny letters or there are bad
words there, then that's where they'll have to stay. I doubt it is Bob
intentions of monitoring the new message board, because he doesn't stay in one
place long enough.
So bottomline Bob, I vote for a "Political Forum" and ask everyone that submits
his or her posting to it, BE SURE it is what you want up there, because there it
will stay!!;-)
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 10:12:27
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i have not been on this site for a very long time. as a lot of you know i lost
my precious daughter parrish on sept 9th. i came on hoping for some fun and
joy.. what is going on? please everyone stop and remember what this site is
suppose to be about. enough already.....take a deep breath and regroup. we all
respect one another . i think what bob is trying to do is for the best. like me,
when i finally come back i am not sure that i want to stay. take care of
yourseloves and each other. love ya vernette
vernette/missy tatum
malibu, ca USA - Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 10:02:12
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Thanks to the few of you who made comments...
I'm going to RE-ask the question and this time, I'm going to attempt to put it
in other terms... and yes, I'm going to beat the shit out of this dead horse,
because it's not dead.
Just forget for a minute that you don't want any changes. (You're all simply
getting real old and unable to accept changes, and you'll get over it - - or
not.)
Now consider this question: What topics would you personally enjoy entering
into? now... wasn't that easy?
This is NOT a debate as to WHETHER or NOT change is coming... it is. Period...
We are going to see if it will change the overall effect of this website in
terms of the longevity of our classmates visits. If nobody shows up, or posts...
then we'll change it back... but not too quickly...
Case in point:
I want to enter into the topic of the illegal Iraq invasion.
Carol and Diane don't even want to hear about it... in fact I'm in "violation"
of our original agreement to even broach the subject here on this website. But
when the agreement was made... we weren't in the middle of a war, and we hadn't
spent a gadzillion taxpayer dollars on an illegal invasion. And the Bush
administration had not yet just plain pissed me off.
So I want to stir up enough muck on this website that some of you more forward
thinkers might offer some leadership and direction to our idiot politicians. And
I honestly think we can.
But again, It is a topic that by all rights should not be discussed on this
website... but it's one of the most important issues facing us as a nation...
and we as a class of forward thinkers should be at the helm of the ship...
instead of sucking energy from the boob tube.
So where would I enter into a topic like that on this website... ? I think it
Could go into the section of the message board called ... "Iraq"... simple eh?
OH... there is no such section? gee... now what? I'm not allowed to talk about
it? Sorry, that won't work for me...
So here's your homework assignment... THINK of a topic that you would like to
bounce off this board... some pressing issue... something that is bugging you...
maybe you're even afraid to bring it up here. What would that topic be... I
don't really care if it's "more comfortable Depends" or "what kind of poison
will work to 'off' the old man - that won't be detected"... or... "how do I get
AARP to listen to me and fill my prescriptions correctly"... or ... "How much
Marijuana is required to get high enough to see Nirvana?"
when you think of a topic for me... think about this... I want to ask the board
a question, without offending Pete, or Judy V. or Toni B. or Vince F. or Jerry
C. or Carol, or Diane, or ANYONE. It's kinda simple... Just THINK about it.
We should have topics that do NOT require that you re-read your postings before
you click on the little box that says... "Submit Query"... because, obviously...
that isn't working anyway.
And now... if this message offends anyone... tough. Get over it. Because, trust
me... I have a lot to get over too.
Bobby Brann
Wellton, AZ USA - Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 09:26:54
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This is a great site. The comments are great. The sparks are great. The people
are great. Today I saw an old friend in S.B., and I noticed that we both had our
canes. We must be getting old. I have a son whom is in college there, and he is
a good kid. But it is always a joy to hear what is going on here, and to hear
everyone's varied opinions and comments and all. It is sort of like listening to
the Parliament.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 06:02:14
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<big><I>So much talent. It can spread faster than a raging fire. Both need
sparks.</big></i>
William Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 03:23:11
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I really don't know why I engage in polemics with fools since it's tantamount to
shouting at the deaf. Forgive me.
Stuart Kern
- Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 01:44:30
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There are more than a thousand families that have just lost everything and I
read petty b.s. here. Except guy. I don't share sleeping bags either. I came
here for fun and stimulation, not arguments. ceeya.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 01:16:40
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Gimme' that olde time religion, gimme' that olde time religion, gimme' that olde
time religion. It's good enuf 4 me.
Stuart of the "creepy English skills" Kern
- Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 01:14:31
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Note to all...
I do NOT share sleeping bags...
Guido
Guy Webb
USA - Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 00:10:19
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Cat Fight on "The View"
Stuarts validates my comparsions of his crew appearing like the TV show "The
View." Writing, "Welcome to the Upper Patio" verifies it. Resorting to vulgarity
shows his creepy English skills.
There are a lot of successful and talented alumni out there, who are embarassed
by the lame, fat city tone of the website. It can do better, and be more
entertaining.
If you get up to Salem, there are a few alumni here abouts who like to rodeo.
Good luck with things. Cheerio.
Peter Dane
Salem, OR USA - Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 00:07:18
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p.s. Sorry for the Elmer Fuddisms and that's "irritations."
SK
- Thursday, October 25, 2007 at 00:00:43
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You don't get it, Stuart, but I assure you both Bill and Bob already do. Let me
explain...
Didn't Bill make a plea for more participants in the message board, but was
taken to task for some of the existing subject matter and language? And, in the
absence of asking "if" we were to change the website format, didn't Bob ask for
suggested message board groupings for a new, more sophisticated program he has
already purchased?
Well, by using that most basic of animal instincts, the Territorial Imperative,
what I have just suggested is dividing-up the message board the same way we all
divided-up Uni's large campus.
In this way, no one will feel left out, everyone will feel they have comfortable
space of their own, while still being able to at anytime being able to pick and
choose with whom they want to associate.
If this doesn't easily and painlessly eliminate the irrations we cause each
other and over time build a far larger overall group of Islander participants, I
cannot imagine what will.
THAT is what I meant by "Welcome to the Upper Patio!"
Stuart Kern
- Wednesday, October 24, 2007 at 23:50:47
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I truly believe a week-long retreat at (or near) the Bakaleinikoff's beach house
on the Kona Coast would resolve all of our differences. I've got three sleeping
bags and an urge to PARTY!
Bill? Ellen?
Hugs (obviously)
Stuart
Stuart Wayne Muller
Where the Mountains Meet the Sea, Pacpalcalusa, Earth - Wednesday, October 24,
2007 at 23:11:11 _______________________________________________
I want to say something which has been bothering me for sometime and which I
believe is at the heart of the issues between some of us. I don't know if what I
am about to say will come off as I intend, but I have come to believe that the
really big and important stuff is best described in as few carefully chosen and
easily understood words as possible. So here goes...
Evidently, some people think that postings to this message board should be
crafted with the same aplomb, phony respect and reverence for the views of
others as if this was the United States Senate and everthing said or written was
going into the Congressional Record for prosterity.
To those who feel that way, all I can say is that this ain't the Senate folks;
it's University High School revisited almost fifty years on. As you will recall,
Uni was a big campus where each of us could gather, eat lunch and hang-out with
the people with whom we felt most comfortable and thus avoid the people we
couldn't stand.
Well, to those of you who take such strong exception to subjects, language and
tenor of some of Bill's and my postings, all I can say is one thing:
Welcome to the Upper Patio!
Stuart Kern
USA - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 at 22:29:52
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Bobby, Billy, et al.
I suggest an alphabetical zietgeist...
Want to make a posting about Jeb's or read an anthology of stories about said
drive-in, type in J.
If what floats your particular boat is listings having to do with "The Hot Dog
Show", click on H.
If the Bay Theater causes you to wax nostalgic, and you would like to see photos
of the auditorium, the snack bar, the murals, the bill board, etc., type in B.
If there is a method to catagorizing our recollections, photographs,
experiences, etc., the easiest way to make it user friendly is to put the
postings, catagories, etc., in alphabetical or cronicalogigal order...
Your thoughts?
Anonymous...
Guy Martin Webb
Ventura, CA USA - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 at 22:28:43
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To pick up on Billy B's, "Suddenly, old friends don't look so bad" is right
where I'm at (as we used to say in the "old days").
I have a new job (full-time which is why I haven't had time to post for a
while). What!! You hadn't even noticed that I was ABSENT for such a long time.
Boo. Hoo.
I actually like this new job quite a lot. Most of my day is spent driving these
neat old vans (one has 400,000 Km on it) around listening to my favorite
non-commercial classical radio station CBC FM.
But there is one thing that is making me rather sad. All of the people I work
with are 1/2 or 1/3 my age which in itself not a problem at all except that they
act as though I'm invisible. I have even tried to "join in" their conversations
about things that frankly I generally could care less about, but nothing I say
interests them and this makes me feel left out. Juvenile, eh???
I'm dying to come in Monday morning and say, "Did you see that terrific
Masterpiece Theatre last night?" Wouldn't that go over like a lead balloon?
My wise son of 22 says, "Who cares if they act like you're invisible?" But I do
care.
So this is why I'm posting when I should be doing my other job - taking care of
household things like laundry, dishes, etc. You know all the really thrilling
stuff. You guys are ALL MY AGE and I feel that I can talk about Masterpiece
Theatre or Mystery! or some great documentary on PBS and I would have a
sympathetic audience - at least you all KNOW what I'm talking about. Judging
from the music that I hear on their car CD players I doubt that they know
anything about what I'm interested in. Sigh.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 at 22:23:50
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M & M ... don't forget we too were in the Bend Bulletin regarding trespassers
walking along the canal (actually the homeowners on the canal own out to the
middle of the canal and it is a HUGE liability for us) and some of us neighbors
have put up "NO TRESPASSING" signs. And, I believe we were referred to in the
newspaper as "Transplants" by the ones that walk/jog/bike ride/walk their dog
off leash, etc., on the canal easement and not care if it is private property or
not!! Soooooooo, us "transplants" gotta stick together!! ;-)))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 at 21:10:28
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Well, I think you said it for us Stuart.
Leave it alone Bob. Us Cental Oregon targets like it as is.
M & M
Mike & Melantha Bobrick
Bend, OR USA - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 at 19:32:09
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I'll tell you where to put it, Pete.
(Sorry, folks, sometimes temptation gets the better of me.)
Stuart Kern
- Wednesday, October 24, 2007 at 16:54:54
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Barbara Walter's Show, "The View"
Kudos to Bob Brann for his innovation for phasing in a new format for the
Islander website. The current web scene reminds me of the morning TV show, "The
View"-- but for guys.
With a potential audience and cast of hundreds, the future looks so bright for
this website, you have to wear shades.
With all the bright alumni, there is bound to more topics, and erudite messages
in the future.
The morning headlines in the Salem, "Statesman Journal" read, "California's
inferno grows," with a satellite photo of the smoke plumes. The movie star
Governor looked terrific on TV, calming fears and promoting team work. This is
way beyond the movie, "Chinatown." Hang in there, the rainy season is just
around the corner.
Hey Bob, where would I put this message in the new website format? Thank you.
Peter Dane
Salem, OR USA - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 at 14:57:22
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Guido, (<small><small><small>also known as Guy Webb</small></small></small>) I
have been propositioned thirteen times too so I know how you feel. And I also
think that your anonymous gift of $100 to <i>Fi Fi Le Toure's message parlor</i>
is a commendable ............"Huh?
Oh, I didn't have my glasses on .........never mind".
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 at 11:54:34
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Guy ... I LOVE the fact that you are going to donate $100.00 "anonimously" to
Bob Brann's plan ... I won't tell a soul!! ;-))))
Bobby, although I am not an alcoholic, I do know their motto, "if it ain't
broke, don't fix it". Some may think the website is "broke", but I think for the
most part, it works just fine. I agree with Diane, I don't like when the
postings go towards a polictical tone, but I read a few sentences and decide if
I want to read it further and/or comment.
So, I vote that our "anonimous" donator saves his(opps, or her) money and you
save your time of trying to find another message board that would work for here.
I received an email from my son with amazing pictures of the fire behind their
home and he and his family are now safely back home!!! ;-)))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 at 04:59:33
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I love you Bobby but I think I will have to go with Diane, Stuart and Carol. I
have been writing for another website for about ten years now, we have gotten
the website of the year award twice in fourteen years. I got a nice write up in
the New York Times last year, a mention or two on Jay Leno and one of our other
writers is now one of the hottest things going on YouTube.
We had a great deal of competition along the way. We kept our normal operation
and it beat the rest out through the years. This site is a winner, it does not
need any changing, just more blood which will come along as our troops get
older.......trust me on this one.
Things start to thin out after 67. Suddenly, old friends don't look so bad. This
site will be worth it's weight in gold. Ranger Bill is digging in. You have a
winner here Bobby, it doesn't need changing.....that is my honest opinion.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, October 24, 2007 at 02:08:51
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Hi Friends...Personally I like the board just as it is...I do agree that some of
the postings are a little (and sometimes a lot)off the wall and some I don't
agree with politically so I just glance thru them and don't dwell on them. I
would hate to, every time I post, have to decide what category it goes in. I
also think this would be a HUGE task for Carol. I think we have a GREAT thing
going here and should continue as it is...you can tell by the first few
sentences if you don't like where a posting is going and just skip it. Guy
"Guido" said it all so perfectley a few postings back about not wanting to hurt
anyones feelings, if anyone missed that posting, please go read it again...it
says it all...I think we are ALL a FABULOUS group of 64 & 65 year olds who have
re-connected after 50 years, please people, don't do anything to hurt it. I
think you are all GREAT !!!
Hugs, Diane
Diane Graveline Johnson
Huntington Beach, Ca USA - Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 23:58:31
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Bobby:
For what it's worth, my immediate reaction to what you are suggesting isn't
positive, though I understand what you are suggesting and why. To use an
expression from the theatre, I think it's gonna' read a whole lot better than it
plays.
I say this only because, in my opinion, it is the not knowing what to expect for
dinner tonight that makes the message board in its present format so
mouth-watering. If, however, it is converted into a buffet, yes, it might
satisfy some people who value predictability over spontaneity, who prefer to
tune-out that which is of no interest to them versus perhaps having their cages
rattled from time-to-time, but I'm certainly not going to be one of them. Maybe
this is because the only things I find intolerable among former high school
classmates are, as I recently stated, bullying and bullshit. Beyond that, let
the chips fall where they may.
Or, to put it another way, I for one ain't much interested in preachin' to the
choir, because that's exactly what it's gonna' be. I don't want to spend my time
writing about one subject or another to people who I already know will agree
with me. I prefer making waves than building sand castles.
I am but one voice of many and perhaps on reflection and after reading and
digesting what others have to say, I might feel differently. However, you did
ask for feedback and this is my first impression.
Thanks, as always, for being ahead of the curve.
Stuart Kern
- Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 23:20:17
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I propose to donate $100 (anonimously of course) to the furtherance of Bob
Brann's plan.
If it requires software or hardware or volunteer hours or Suduko puzzles or pet
adoptions (do you know that you can drop off a child at a Police/Fire station
within 3 days of it's birth with no questions asked, but you must prove at least
four generations of tax forms to donate a dog?)...
Without exception, I proclaim my devotion, until death do us part, to everyone
whom utilizes it. If I can help, I will. If you have a question that I can
answer I will. I promise not to "spam" or "flame" anyone here.
I am 65 years old.
I have made payments on the house that my children have known as their home, and
that Mary and I have lived in for thirty years this month... Can you say
Proposition 13?
I have made friend's and enemy's for all that time...
I beg forgiveness for my trespasses.
I am proud of what ever good deeds I have done.
Please make the back side of this journey we are all experiencing, an enjoyable
one. Corny as it may sound, I love you all.
Guido
Guy Martin Webb
Venchura, CA USA - Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 22:40:44
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Tekla:
No doubt there are experiences that no one can imagine what they feel like or
what they do to you unless and until one personally experiences them.
Unfortunately, too often such life-altering experiences are bad ones.
My reason for bringing this up now is what must be the unfathomable sense of
loss at losing one's home and possessions to nature's fury.
Maybe George Carlin got it right when he said to eliminate as much "stuff" as
possible...particularly if you live in areas prone to wildfires. I suppose
that's easier said than done. Still, your heart has to go out to all of these
people who have lost everything. And how is this any different from what Katrina
did to the Ninth Ward and environs?
Mother Nature can sure be one nasty mother, can't she?
Stuart Kern
- Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 22:28:37
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I've been kinda busy fighting the wind, and sand, and dust storms, and redoing
work that I've already done once or sometimes twice... all of that is at times
more than just a little annoying.
I've not been near an internet connection, and have to drive to the parking lot
of a motel to get on to the closest connection from where I camp, out here in
the desert... the good thing is that it's free, and it's not too far, and it's
24/7, unless they have some kind of a failure, and then it's 0/0... which is
REALLY annoying, because I've packed up, driven here, and then ... "nada"...
I'm a little disappointed to find that there are still some misgivings among our
users as to the content of the message board, and there seems to be little or no
sympathy as to what they are saying... (Judy/Stuart) and I feel the same as Judy
does in some respects, and I understand what Stuart is saying... and I LOVED the
comments that Guy Webb made about Judy's comments... such a sensitive cat, Guy
is. Thank you Guy... you always make me see things in a slightly different
light... it's like you "turn on the lights" for me, sometimes.
So... here we are... at this same damned impasse... that I've felt and
experienced so many times before... and I've thought about a resolve... and can
only come up with this idea... and I want comments on it...
Originally, when I set up this message board, I used a "forum" software... and
it was simply too complicated for our THEN... unsophisticated users to
manipulate, navigate, log in to, and do any real posting to... it was just a
"tad" intimidating... But NOW... 7 years later, I think we have all been online
long enough to use a more high powered forum software, and I've installed it on
this website, and it will be ready for New Years... '08.
Now here's my request... I want to be able to divide our conversation up into
categories... so people don't have to wade through the BULLSHIT... (so sorry, as
founder, I take a few liberties and using that word is going to have to be one
of them... i just can't think of another that so well fits the occasion.) they
can look at the forum, and see the topics, and hopefully there will be enough of
a clue in the title of the topic that it will give the readers a chance to avoid
stuff they don't want to see... and get to the core for the stuff they DO want
to see.
So... I was looking through the various postings here on this board, and I was
trying to figure out how to categorize them... say, "Political", "General",
"Trips and Vacations", "Family Ties", etc... you get the idea?... But I kinda
need some help here... And specifically I'd like to have Judy V. and Stuart K.
and Guy, and Bill (and anyone else with any good ideas) give me 4 categories
each that these postings "breakdown" to. "The War" would be a good one... it's
not POLITICAL... it's BULLSHIT... (ooops... there's that word again... oh
darn)... But I want to hear what other Islanders opinions about the WAR really
are... and I don't want that posting on the "GENERAL" message board...
Now... do you get where I'm going with this whole concept???
This new board, is already installed... it lacks the tweaking that will make it
"OUR BOARD"... and I want it finished by JAN 1. and in place at that time. That
means we need to kinda pull together... and get it accomplished... because
there's an issue or two about "security"... that i still have to resolve. I'll
work on that... and you guys, work out the details of how we can efficiently
separate you unsophisticated towel snappers from the High Brow Tea sippers.
Now.. one more thing... there's going to be a "JOKE" section on there... because
this bourbon swilling old fart frankly needs a laugh from time to time, between
chasing my shit across the desert, sweeping the wind blown sand out of my
dilapidated old trailer, and keeping Alice from being pissed off because we left
La Jolla and came out to this god forsaken piece of sand... with it's wind, it's
heat, it's freezing nights and it's frickin Rattle snakes, Scorpions, Coyotes,
tarantulas, bats, and bugs. (I keep telling her that San Diego's slipping out to
sea, and we're going to have beach front property soon... but she ain't buyin'
it.)
So, gimme a break, guys... and gimme a hand with this project. Put your results
RIGHT HERE... on this message board... I'll pick em up next time I drag my sorry
butt to the motel parking lot and sort em out.
thanks... and though it might seem like I have a problem with this message
board... I don't, not really... I just want a place where EVERYONE feels
comfortable playing.
Bobby Brann
Wellton, AZ USA - Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 22:06:14
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Stuart you are so right about the fire fighters. My husband was a volunteer fire
fighter for 10 years here and fought the horrible fires I mentioned earlier. The
firefighters are usually well takn care of but they work beyond exhaustion. I
know my husband was on 16 hour shifts. Every day our newspaper listed items that
the firefighters needed(they lived in tents on our fair grounds). We all bought
and donated whatever was needed. My husband was fed by kind neighbors when he
was on the line in a remote area. Two friends lost their homes. After the fire
we all chipped in and tried to provide as much as possible to thosse
displaced--some people donated their rentals or summer homes for free to those
who had no homes. The community rallied and showed the kindness I believe most
Americans have. I hope the same holds true for Southern California.
Tekla
Tekla Dennison Miller
Durango, CO USA - Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 18:00:37
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While I am sure these feelings of gratitude and respect are shared by many, I
still want to ask a rhetorical question I have asked myself every time I pass a
firehouse for as far back as I can remember...
Can you imagine the depth of courage, devotion, skill, strength, endurance, and
lung capacity of firefighters who regularly risk their lives to save people,
their pets and property from Mother Nature at her most treacherous and
unpredictable worse? I am sure that's why I always go out of my way to nod a
greeting as I pass or come upon a car with firefighter license plates. God bless
them all!
Stuart Kern
- Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 17:40:30
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My son, his family and two dogs have evacuated their home in Spring Valley (San
Diego). I was just on the phone with my daughter-in-law yesterday a.m. and
everything was fine and within hours, they had left their home. I also talked to
Richie yesterday and he could see the fires ... I hope their home is safe also.
You are right Stuart, these devastating fires make our message board banter seem
rather insignificant.
I hope my prayers are heard for all of the Southern Californians who are in
danger, the firefighters and the all the little creatures.
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 16:53:08
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How petty and meaningless some of our recent exchanges so glaringly become in
light of the calamities which are ravaging our state. I for one will take Cary's
advice, shut up, and join Bill and Jerry in expressing the hope and prayer that
these dreadful fires can be contained and controlled without additional loss of
life or people's homes.
Stuart Kern
USA - Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 15:59:17
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May all of you in Southern California stay safe. My nephew lives in San Diego
and is watering his house. His work site is closed. The fire is too close to
him. My sister lives in Acton about 5 miles from the Canyon Fires. Her property
borders the Angles National Forest. I know how frightening this is for everyone.
We had to live through the worst fires on record in our area five years ago. You
are in my thoughts.
Tekla
Tekla Dennison Miller
Durango, CO USA - Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 15:58:22
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I add my prayers and hopes for all those in the fire areas. God protect you all.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 14:47:15
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I hope everybody is safe from the fires; Mike, it looks like you and Melantha
got out of there (fire area in SC) in the nick of time. Can you imagine what the
fire insurance is going to be like after this is all over? Remember October
2003?
After the earthquake in Hawai'i last year we can sympathize with the agony of
waiting to see what is left. I however think the fire obviously is worse because
generally nothing is left. Mother Nature can be brutal. Anyway, our hearts go
out to all of those families involved from Malibu to the border. Stay safe.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 13:25:03
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Gee, and it was going so well............
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 10:58:32
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There is another famous quote, in essence, from FDR to Churchill at the Tehran
Conference during World War II, namely, to keep his mouth shut, because his
mouth tends to get in his way. We might also remember that Blair House was the
result of Churchill's being such an obnoxious guest at the White House, and that
we are still paying through the nose for Churchill's screw ups in the middle
east.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 09:19:20
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I don't disagree with you often, Guido, but I sure do this time.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out what Judy is asking for. It's that a
certain level of decorum be maintained here on our high school alumni message
board. An unreasonable request? Of course not. Is it something I believe we
should expect from ourselves and each other? Not on your life! No bullying, no
bullshit, but good old American as mom's apple pie bathroom humor? Hell yes!
In my opinion, these delicate-eared objections border on FANATICISM and to quote
another and perhaps even more appropriate Winston Churchillism than his retort
to the famously haughty Lady Astor you cited, I offer the following:
"The problem with fanatics is that they can't change their minds and won't
change the subject."
What else do ya' want to talk about?
Stuart Kern
- Tuesday, October 23, 2007 at 01:23:09
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We'll now, The Missus and I are discovering the joy of controversy now that we
live in Central Oregon, so we find the web site a fun glimpse at how differently
we all view life and humor as we age. Oh, I suppose we always had differences. I
guess some of us are just more mature right out of the gate. Then again, I
wouldn't know for sure because I've yet to be accused of that. Not the gate, the
maturity.
So, back to the controversy. It seems the Reverend Melantha Tatum (Now known as
Mrs. B) started a bit of a fire storm of controversy here in Bend when a couple
of weeks ago she was a guest editorialist for the local newspaper, The Bend
Bulletin. She was responding to a letter from a reader about how the new laws
about to take affect in Oregon allowing civil unions were infringing on the
lady's faith and marriage.
Anyway, as those of you who know Melantha might guess, she sort of disagreed
that civil unions in anyway interfered with this woman's rights. She sort of
wrote we should all be free to view unions as we see fit and not insist that
everyone follow a set of guidelines based on one specific belief or faith. In
particular, this lady's views.
We'll, the letters that are still pouring in to this little local paper (circ
abt 25K) are pretty revealing about those that live among us or we live among.
Oh, that reminds me, elk huntin' season opened Saturday just a week after deer
season ended. After elk, we got bear then cougar, all with various periods as to
bow, gun or black powder so now through the end of the year the fish and game
folks suggest I not run my dog in the forest while wearing my Daniel Boone hat.
I never knew there were so many ways to kill so many animals for such specific
periods of time. Anything smaller than a deer or cougar is called a varmint and
can be killed with anything anytime.
Anyway, I'm still running the dog in the forest every day but I'm stopping a lot
more often to pick up empty beer cans. Boy those hunters get thirsty. Not sure
which ones drink the most, but I'm guessing the black powder bear guys gets
pretty thirsty.
Oh, and I'm wearing a hat with a colorful umbrella and two beer cans and the
dog's wearing a pink boa so I'm pretty sure I won't get shot lest some beer gets
spilled. Can't speak for the dog after readin' all them letters.
So I guess the point I'm trying to make, if there is one, is we all have
different opinions about what's funny and what's important and what our
perspective is at any point in time. For a couple of relocated California folk,
Central Oregon is different. And I wouldn't have it any other way.
Pretty much feel the same way about the web site.
Thanks for readin' or not.
Mike Bobrick
Mike Bobrick
Bend, OR USA - Monday, October 22, 2007 at 23:55:48
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My take on it...
The very fact that one of us rose to the "bait" of another proves the value of
this site...
We agree to sign our real names, as well as maiden names, (even if that requires
several pages of "attachments")...
We also agree to not be profane...
No definition required. We all know what profane entails.
Some of us are more easily offended than others, so perhaps our postings would
sit more "This Old House" or "Home Again" squarely if we started our postings
with our names...
That way, if you are offended by a persons postings, you can skip right over
them...
If, on the other hand, you enjoy what that person generally has to say, you can
skip forward and backward, and only read what you like.
I actually get what Judy is trying to get across...
And what Pete, and Tim, and Vince, and Toni have objected to...
No one wants to be left out, ignored, not "get it", be the butt of a joke, or to
have someone "talk 'OUT OF SCHOOL'" about them...
I think we do a pretty damn good job of policing ourselves, making sure that no
one beats up on the little guy, or "dishes dirt" about an old girlfriend...
Other than a few referrences to an ex-husband or wife (not web site visitors),
we keep things pretty sanitary here...
One of my favorite Sir Winston Churchill quotes expresses this to a "tea"...
After a pointedly antagonistic discussion/disagreement over a formal dinner, an
exasperated Lady said to Sir Winston, "Sir, if were your wife, I would pour
poison in your tea..."
Sir Winston replied, "Madame, if I were your husband, I would drink it"...
Guido
Sanitization has already been accomplished by the posting of the Message Board
Guidelines...
Guy Martin Webb
Ventura, California USA - Monday, October 22, 2007 at 22:38:14
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Stuart,
I really don't want to get into an ongoing dialogue about this issue. But I do
want to point out that my comments about the site were not about my views of the
site. Rather my comments were about how people new to the site or who have not
posted yet might view the site. I'm glad the site works for you. I do think some
of things about the site that work for you (and Carol and Bill) are what would
make it offensive to many other people. There doesn't appear to be a huge number
of people who want to join in on the conversation about window peeping and urine
sniffing. A few years ago there was a much greater variety of people posting to
the site. In my opinion much of the conversation on the site has unfortunately
deteriorated. Bill asked the question, "Why are there no new faces coming to the
site?" and I wanted to offer my opinion of what I think one of the reasons is. I
hoped that it might cause some of you to reflect on how some of these postings
would be perceived by people who are not regular posters and visitors to the
site.
Judy
Judy Vandegrift
Loveland, CO USA - Monday, October 22, 2007 at 15:07:48
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It is a variety show Judy just like a campus. Most Islanders are sharp enough to
read what they like and don't read what they don't like. Humor is not a
sanitized package of thoughts; it is an evolution of situations that seem
contrary to the norm. Urine in itself is not a dirty word it is merely the
remains of a body function.
As we speak, Lurch is writing a book titled "<i>The History of Urine</i>" which
by all accounts is said to be very interesting by many scholars; unfortunately
others look at the book as <i>yellow journalism </i>. You just can't please
everybody all of the time. Thank you for your comments; I always enjoy your
postings Judy.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Monday, October 22, 2007 at 14:15:33
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Stuart ... so beautifully said. I can't imagine you offended Judy or anyone for
that matter ... your opinion was honest and from your heart.
And Judy, I do agree with you, this website can be brilliant and then silly, but
it is a place where we can all go knowing our peers are there and knowing we
won't get spammed.
So for me, I'll take the brilliant along with the silly. I truly appreciate each
of you that post to this message board ... our website would not be nearly as
enjoyable without each of you!!
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Monday, October 22, 2007 at 14:12:10
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Dear Judy:
While your comments were directed to Bill and he is certainly capable of
answering for himself, I want to respond to the criticism you have leveled at
those of us who frequently make "juvenile" postings.
Of course, we do. That's the whole idea!
We live in a world gone mad, with the lessons of history and the teachings of
the wise seemingly completely ignored, forgotten or never learned in the first
place. Add to this the fact that our ranks are starting to be thinned out by the
ravages of age and disease and it becomes painfully obvious that the most
serious and concerned among us need an avenue to escape from our daily
frustrations, anger and fears. This website is just that. In fact, it's a
godsend!
It is a well-known fact that the comics in any society, be they the court
jesters of old or the stand-up comedians of today, have always been among the
most intelligent and serious of people. To this end, I will tell you that there
is no more serious, intelligent and concerned about the issues of the day
individual than my great pal, William Bakaleinikoff...nor will one find
brighter, more perceptive minds than among the regular contributors to this
website.
This isn't anything new. All one has to do to see this has always been the case
is to go back to anytime in the four years of archives which are available
merely by depressing a key.
Please try to understand and accept that this website, in addition to being a
forum for exchanging ideas, taking trips down Memory Lane and sharing the joys
of being grandparents is also perhaps the only place to really let our hair down
(to the extent there's any left among the men), to be unguardedly juvenile,
silly, smart-ass, risque, and even sometimes obnoxious. (Lord knows I'm guilty
on all counts!) To me and I suspect others as well, this website is an
invaluable way to blow off steam, to get a much-needed release from the
pressures and news of the day.
And who better to be juvenile, silly, smart-ass, risque and even obnoxious with
than the very people with whom we were juvenile, silly, smart-ass, risque and
obnoxious with almost 50 years ago?
Please understand that these comments are in no way intended as criticism of
you, Judy. They are merely an earnest attempt to ask you to view this website
through a slightly different lense.
Thank you.
Stuart Kern
- Monday, October 22, 2007 at 13:11:41
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So, Bill, you asked WHY there are no new faces posting to this website. Just
read some of the most recent postings with talk of urine stench and window
peeping and ask yourself if you were an Islander who had never posted anything
on the web site, would you even want to. Probably not. I know there are some
good postings in between the junk but the overall tone is quite juvenile much of
the time.
Judy Vandegrift
Loveland, CO USA - Monday, October 22, 2007 at 03:42:51
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You devil Lurch, you parade around my urine stench as I leave it like a homeless
vagabond dropping hints. I peer through dipsty dumpers looking for
life,,,,,,,,,,
<big><big><big>CUT! WHAT THE HELL IS THIS? THIS IS A CHILDREN'S PROGRAM FOR
CHRIST'S SAKE......IT'S FOCUS ON THE FAMILY.......ARE YOU
NUTS?................</big></big></big>
They're with the Bush team, tone it down. We need the money. "Well Joey, this
guy is a total jerk".........We all know that Clem, we just have to ride the
year out. and get as much money as we can"
Billly Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Monday, October 22, 2007 at 01:53:08
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You know, I thought that was you, Billy, peering through the window of my study
from the bushes. You do know how to remove the smell of urine from your hair and
clothing, don't you?
Stuart Kern
- Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 23:53:06
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You're rescued Richie. Did you know that Lurch writes in the nude?
Tim Ellis is coming to town next week. We finally get a chance to get together
with his beautiful wife Jorie; it has only been 45 years since we have seen each
other. Maybe we can block off the main street in Sausalito and run the 100 yard
dash again. Na, Tim always beat me.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 22:50:20
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Sheez - That last stupid posting of mine could last forever!!
Richie
Rich "Lemme think" Oh now I remember McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Sunday, October 21, 2007 at 20:13:01
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Sheez!! Bobby Brann could live forever!!! Good for him!!
Richie
Rich McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 21:16:32
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Guy:
Your story about Winston Churchill struck a chord with me. Of all the books I
have read by and about him and all the late night conversations I had many years
ago with a member of his War Cabinet both here and in England, I never heard
that wonderful story before.
The gentleman I am referring to was the father-in-law of my friend and
then-business partner who had gone to Oxford after USC, met and married the
daughter of a member of the House of Lords, and brought her back with him to
L.A. That was back in the 1970's and even though Lord Conesford was an
octogenarian by then, he was still sharp as a tack and could drink more Scotch,
fine wine and cognac (the same night) than anybody I have ever known...while
remaining cold sober and totally lucid. He was amazing and actually believed his
alcohol consumption helped keep him healthy and alert well into his eighties. I
think he was right!
Anyway, the one thing he told me which you will never read in history books was
that Churchill's reputation as an all-night drinker, particularly of cognac, was
a self-promoted macho fabrication because the contents of his omnipresent brandy
snifters were so watered down that a child could drink them without ill-effect.
He also told me that Churchill drank Delamain Cognac, which in itself is as dry
and light as any cognac I can ever remember drinking.
As an aside, I have two quite small, identically-framed pictures hanging over my
desk in my home-office-study-retreat from the madding crowd. I am looking at
them as I I write this. One is the famous wartime photograph of Winston
Churchill by Karsh of Ottawa. The other is an engraving of Thomas Jefferson in
profile as a young man, which I bought several years ago when I made a
"pilgramage" to Monticello.
These two great men with their great minds have been lifelong inspirations to
me...almost as much as Regis Philban.
Stuart Kern
- Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 21:12:32
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Don't be alarmed that was just Ranger Bill's annual NPR style pledge break for
our <i>Extra Faces Drive</i>. Every year we have to drum up extra faces and
names for the <i>Islander Message Board</i>. Unfortunately, because this is a
non profit message board and can't pay for contributors we have to solicit for
volunteers with new faces or perhaps bring back some faces that have
disappeared.
This message board operates seven days a week twenty four hours a day bringing
you constant entertainment for free. Where else can you find so many people that
can actually read and write and know where West Los Angeles is on a map. Did you
know that 80% of Americans can't find Canada on a map? 62% of Americans think
Jello is an actress, 76% of Americans think CSI is a dirty verb institution; but
watch it anyway? 96% of Americans think that a website is where Guy lives? Well
isn't it nice to take a break and come to the message board where 100% of the
people think like you? People who share your memories, knew you when you had
pimples, helped you pick out the hair from a Jeb's burger. Those memories are
worth millions and some are of special interest to detectives trying to solve
cold cases.
To keep this wonderful operation going we need new faces, nobody is going to
just give them to us and because we are a non profit we can't pay for them. And
right now, we will match our face with every new face member you bring in. And
if you bring in a new face within the next two hours you will receive a years
worth of Ranger Bill's reusable toilet paper....Just call a fellow Islander
right now and tell them to show their face; can't you do that for us here at the
<i>Islander Message Board</i>. Carol and Bobby have spent million of dollars and
hundreds of man hours to bring you this non profit <i>Islander Messenger
Board</i>. Please, call one of our operators standing (no collect calls please)
by and tell them that you want to show your face. And if we get five new faces,
you won't hear from us again till next year. And remember, most of us know where
the skeletons are buried, if they don't want to show their face, well maybe a
little memory jogging will help. Thank you.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 20:08:01
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Yes Hal, I definitely remember that and it certainly brought a smile to my face.
Thank you!!! ;-)))
We woke up to our yard covered with snow ... it is now 48 degrees and the snow
is all melted, but it was a treat waking up to it. Our Shih-tzu puppy (Sake',
age 5 mos.) had a ball romping around in snow for his very first time.
p.s. Bob Brann ... where are you????
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 17:54:24
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America and peace-loving people around the world have lost one of their shining
lights with the passing on Thursday of Admiral William J. Crowe, Jr., arguably
the finest Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in our nation's history.
This was a man of conscience, integrity, intelligence and grit. The world is a
safer place as direct result of his leadership while in the Navy...and his
honest, informed, outspoken views in the years following his retirement as our
nation's highest ranking military officer.
Admiral Crowe embodied what is best about the United States Navy and what it
means to be a character-driven American patriot.
Stuart Kern
- Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 15:54:09
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Does anyone remember the stainless steel slide at the park in the Palisades? It
was about 7 feet at the top , and sometimes the littler kids would get scared
and wet thier pants halfway down. The next few kids would come to a screeching
halt when they hit the wet spot. Some of the older kids who shall remain
nameless would bring sheets of waxed paper to the park. After dryin the slide
with sand and dirt they would then place the waxed paper under thier seat and
slide down. After a few slides they would then stand back and watch as an
unsuspecting kid would then climb to the top and slide, when they got to the
bottom they would bounce on thier little butts across the playground like a
stone being skipped on a pond.
Hal Thorburn
Orange, Ca. USA - Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 14:36:58
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Found on "Stumble Upon"
WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND
His name was Fleming, and he was a poor Scottish farmer. One day, while trying
to make a living for his family, he heard a cry of help coming from a nearby
bog. He dropped his tools and ran to the bog. There, mired to his waist in black
muck, was a terrified boy, screaming and struggling to free himself. Farmer
Fleming saved the lad from what could have been a slow and terrifying death.
The next day, a fancy carriage pulled up the the Scotsman's sparse surroundings.
An elegantly dressed nobleman stepped out and introduced himself as the father
of the boy Farmer Fleming had saved
"I want to repay you," said the nobleman. "You saved my son's life".
"No, I can't accept payment for what I did," the Scottish farmer replied, waving
off the offer.
At that moment, the farmer's own son came to the door of the family hovel.
"Is that your son?" the nobleman asked.
"Yes," the farmer replied proudly.
"I'll make you a deal. Let me take him and give him a good education. If the lad
is anything like his father, he'll grow to be a man you can be proud of."
And that he did. In time, Father Fleming's son graduated from St. Mary's
Hospital Medical School in London, and went on to become well known throughout
the world as the noted Sir Alexander Fleming, the discoverer of Penicillin.
Years afterward, the nobleman's son was stricken with pneumonia. What saved him?
Penicillin.
What was the name of the nobleman? Lord Randolph Churchill. His son's name? Sir
Winston Churchill.
Someone once said: What goes around comes around.
guido
guy webb
valhalla, USA - Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 06:41:20
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<i>Sid, I guess you might as well shut off the lights for tonight, nobody has
showed up. Maybe the show will do better in Pittsburg who knows. Pack everything
up. I know, it was a good show but what the heck, it didn't sell in this town.
Too bad.</i>
<big>"Harry, I told you, they want jokes or high school history, this personal
crap drives them away, they don't need politics or the same people talking all
the time. They need new blood, new talkers, you know what I mean?"</big>
<i>You're right Harry, but if these people don't write who will?........The
others just sit back and don't add nothing .....oh what the hell, this is the
new America, just shut up and pick up the soap. Sad though, you would think that
out of a class of over 1000, and all of the hard work that went into this site,
that there would be more people with something to say. To bad, what a wasted
chance for their children and grandchildren not to have their written thoughts
and ideals laid before them. What the hell is wrong with these people? Oh, I
know, it is CSI. To busy watching television I guess.</i>
<big>I would have expected more from the Islanders. There is so much talent out
there, your silence screams with the question</big> <big><big>WHY?</big></big>
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Saturday, October 20, 2007 at 02:38:53
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I want to echo both Richie and Billy's feelings about Chuck Hagel. I was
similarly very disappointed when he joined the ever-growing list of
character-driven members of Congress who have found that politics, rather than
being the art of the possible, has become the art of the deal.
In my opinion, we continue to lose people of character in leadership positions
because we as a country are losing character. Don't think so? Read Guy's most
recent posting. We're in deep yogurt, folks, and it's gonna' take a whole lot
more than a white guy on a black horse, a black guy on a white horse or a lady
riding side-saddle to pull us out of it.
Stuart Kern
- Friday, October 19, 2007 at 10:07:24
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Funny you should mention Chuck Hagel Richie, he was high on our list as a group
of political writers looking for a decent candidate back in 2005 for 2008. Hagel
was my first choice and I normally swing towards the donkey. The man has
character and is willing to for-go party lines for what is right. I like and
respect the guy.
Guy, as you just pointed out very eloquently, the war zone can extend from Iraq
to right here in our neighborhood parks. Instead of land minds and roadside
bombs, buried weapons of used drug needles, jagged beer bottles, drunken urine
and rubber dead life holders await the poor toddler warriors.
Unfortunately, the government right now is kind of like a fifty million pound
snake with it's head cut off withering around and smashing anything in it's
wake. Stupidity and incompetence multiplied by blind and undeserved ego equals
failure. Hopefully, the snake can't ruin to much more in one year. And hopefully
the people will be smart enough to say "Never again"
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, Ca USA - Friday, October 19, 2007 at 02:21:01
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Richie: Thank you...but you still can't have Bonnie back.
Guy: And you wonder why I have so much respect for you?
Stuart Kern
- Friday, October 19, 2007 at 01:25:03
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Pholks, it is called "Divide and Conquer"...
I get paid to maintain City parks. I get paid to direct a group of people to
deal with the most pressing problem we find when the sun comes up.
Sometimes it is a new slew of broken Corona bottles smashed against play
equipment in a Park tot lot. Corona beer comes in clear glass bottles. It is
virtualy invisible in the sand. Children and adults should be able to expect a
safe environment in which to recreate. You shouldn't have to look for razor
blades whilst sliding down a slide... You should expect that running across the
grass in a Park setting, flying a kite with your child for the first time,
should involve using a metal detector to winnow out the odd hypodermic needle or
poodle poop...
I have done this for twenty plus years now. It ceases to feel like an enriching
activity. It feels more like being an Army Specialist, sweeping the road ahead
for IED's or WOMD's.
It just ain't fun anymore... I agree with our own Dear Billy B. Al Gore, I think
it is probably a lot more fulfilling goofing along with Ali G...
Take your award and give us a "Arctic, Close-out, Global Warming, Drought
Intolerent, Shoreline Shifting, Glacier melting tour of the Northern Hemisphere
before it sinks...
Ranger Bill and I are selling tickets...
gooey web
ventricular, USA - Thursday, October 18, 2007 at 23:22:18
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Stuart Kern - What a magnificent piece of writing. Clear and concise and very
well balanced. As you know , I am also a political junkie like you, and as you
know I am a centrist Democrat who has and will vote for Republicans if I feel
they are the best choice for America. As a matter of fact, I was strongly
considering voting for Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, but he bowed out saying
that he wanted nothing to do with how the Hell you end this war. Chuck Hagel was
sent to Vietnam in the late 60's. His brother was assigned to the same division.
That is not supposed to happen in a combat zone!!!! Well, both brothers
volunteered to spend their full deployment in combat together. The Military only
required that each brother wear a special stainless steel belt with a 3" ring
around each knee to carry their Conojes! (SP?) I am thinking this guy is not
gonna blink or back down from anybody and I am sure he fully understands what it
is like to see a comrade torn to pieces by a Bouncing Betty Landmine that
explodes at the Level of your face. However, I did see a recent study that I
thought was kind of interesting. Some university did a study on Presidential
IQ's of the last half century. Bill
Clinton...182...JimmyCarter...175...JFK...174...Nixon...155...
..FDR...147...Truman...132...LBJ...126...Ike...122...Ford...121
...Reagan...105...Senior Bush...98...Jr Bush...94. What hurt Jr. were the
following criteria....Absence of any body of work that could be studied on an
intellectual basis...No books published...Basic MBA...Average person's
vocabulary is about 11000 words, his is 6500. Other than being president (Which
to his credit is a pretty big "other") he is noted for only 3 other
accomplishments...Inability to find oil in Texas , trading Sammy Sosa and the
ability to type better than Rich McKinney!!! Not for Nuthin but have fun with
it!
Richie
Rich McKinney
san diego, USA - Thursday, October 18, 2007 at 19:50:19
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I know this is off track right now but I want to say something here life has
been drumming into me. This last year and a half has begun to teach me what I
wish I'd heard decades ago. Live responsibly but live as well as we can. Learn
to neutralize our fears and do it anyway, whatever it is. Reserve only enough to
live one more day and use the rest without waste but use it. We are exactly
where we're supposed to be at any particular moment. No matter how hard we try,
we cannot protect anyone. That is up to God.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Thursday, October 18, 2007 at 08:18:47
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As a follow up to Stuart Kern's letter in behalf of Al Gore, I forwarded it to
Eric Schiller who is the press officer for <i>America for Gore</i>
(www.americaforgore.org). He replied this evening saying that he liked it very
much and we will be having coffee together next week (here in Half Moon Bay) to
discuss this and other matters.
Eric Schiller is also a prolific writer of books on chess (check out Amazon.com)
and perhaps the number one chess player in the U.S. today. As many of you know,
chess is one of my hobbies so this will be a fun coffee break along with some
political insight into what Gore is going to do next.
My personal belief is that after his Academy Award and the Nobel Peace Prize, he
(Gore) may want to just sit back and enjoy his personal achievements instead of
going into the meat grinding hell of running for president. If he chooses to do
so, I think he will win; but just the nomination process in itself will be very
brutal.
Mr Gore must have a lot on his mind right now. Wouldn't it be historical for the
Islanders if Stuart's letter tipped the scale? Gore may be reading it as we
speak. Is Lurch our new president maker? Freedom starts with the stroke of a
pen.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Thursday, October 18, 2007 at 02:11:53
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Thanks, Cary. At Billy's suggestion, I forwarded my letter on to The New York
Times for editorial consideration. Whether or not they choose to publish it in
any form, it's gratifying to know that three former high school classmates whose
minds I greatly respect and whose opinions I value highly have seen fit to
comment so favorably on my letter. It would sure be nice if the man to whom it
was written comes to share your, Guy's and Bill's view and takes the plunge.
Thanks to all three of you again!
Stuart Kern
- Thursday, October 18, 2007 at 00:25:52
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In my humble opinion, I tend to think that Stuart Kern's letter was well said. I
personally believe that Al Gore would invite respect as a president, and I
commend Stuart for his letter. We should all undoubtedly play more of a role, as
Stuart as done, and if we don't, we shouldn't bitch if we end up with a lousy
president like this last one.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 23:16:47
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Thanks, Guido. That's high praise indeed, coming as it has from someone who I
respect as much as I do you.
Stuart Kern
- Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 12:26:24
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Stuart - Well written and well said. You might be interested in "02138" The
World Of Harvard magazine, which features Al Gore on the cover, WITH THE
headline "MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE - IS AL GORE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE
PRESIDENT?"
guido
guy webb
vta, USA - Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 08:08:59
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Thank you, Carol. I hope those who choose to read my letter, regardless of their
political persuasion, will consider it a positive advocacy.
Stuart Kern
- Tuesday, October 16, 2007 at 23:46:27
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Richie ... I sent you an email, but it bounced back ... would you please send me
your correct email address??
Carkie@Bendbroadband.com
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Tuesday, October 16, 2007 at 14:40:52
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I just added (Under Tiki Tales) a new letter entitled "An Open Letter to the Tin
Man who has been Remade in Stainless Steel" by Stuart Kern ... ENJOY!!! ;-))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Tuesday, October 16, 2007 at 09:39:21
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Visit
www.gotillman.com
This skateboarding bulldog was named after Pat Tillman, the former Pro football
player that joined the Army and was killed by fiendly fire. I filmed the dog
skateboarding today, but you can see him for yourself. :)
www.gotillman.com
guy webb
ventura, USA - Monday, October 15, 2007 at 19:40:34
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Surfing son Dan and his buddy are headed for Thailand. In Bali they got to surf
with a pro surfer...Dan said the guy was a legend and he invented the "arial"
(sp?) anybody know who that might be?
Richie
Rich McKinney
San Carlos, USA - Monday, October 15, 2007 at 17:59:03
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I am afraid that we will lose a few folks if we don't include a Da Vinci codex
pax ex machina Rubik cube Rosetta stone Ib talk pig Latin for those that are
only ocassional vistors...
Got Google?
Da Vince, any thoughts?
Guy Webb
Ventura, USA - Sunday, October 14, 2007 at 22:43:26
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The RICHter scale is funny. I am laughing here.
<center>************</center>
The Mongolians also use tiny stones to measure things
<center>These are tiny stones ........</center>
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Sunday, October 14, 2007 at 20:03:31
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Sorry, boys....But I usually get an 8 on the RICHter scale!
Rich McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Sunday, October 14, 2007 at 19:24:18
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And besides, who wants to be like Lurch and have to use a wheel barrow to get
the Loch Ness Monster around. This Halloween Lurch is dressing up as a fire
hose. Richie is wearing his smoke costume. Carol is coming as Captain 'Hook':
and Jerry is coming as Millard Fillmore.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Sunday, October 14, 2007 at 19:13:57
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It is still the big top (I don't do <font color=red>red eyes</font color=red>).
I have to buy elastic sheets. So there. Billy Tripod
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Sunday, October 14, 2007 at 14:29:37
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LOL ... ;-))))))))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Saturday, October 13, 2007 at 23:58:00
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You beat me to the punch, Guido.
Lurch
USA - Saturday, October 13, 2007 at 23:08:47
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According to Ellen, that pretty much describes Billy alright, HUGE in the a.m.
and teensy weensy at night.
S.C. "Lurch" Kern
- Saturday, October 13, 2007 at 23:06:53
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Carol.
I think Billy B. is a morning person (ergo: HUGE in the AM, and teeny Weeny in
the PM...) This would explain Ellen keeping her day job...
Guido
guy webb
USA - Saturday, October 13, 2007 at 23:03:10
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Yes Stuart, I am happy ... thank ya, thank ya very much!!
And Billy, don't forget to cancel your commands. You had HUGE writing this a.m.
and teensy weensy writing this evening.
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Saturday, October 13, 2007 at 21:33:36
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Some day my prints will come. That's funny.
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<small><small>I thought it was the Grand Canyon Richie and I also think Gerry
knows more than he is telling us.</small></small>
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach , Ca USA - Saturday, October 13, 2007 at 20:01:11
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I don't actually have them yet, Richie, but like the song says, "someday my
prints will come."
Lurch (aka Stuart Charles Kern)
There, happy Blueberries?, - Saturday, October 13, 2007 at 18:37:20
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Jerry Carp - Lurch Kern has Pictures.
Luv Ya...Richie
Rich McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Saturday, October 13, 2007 at 16:22:03
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Rich, I NEVER!!!!!
Never knew her.
Never saw her.
Never even thought of her.
Musta been your OTHER weird friend.
Never forget. Friend is fiend without the ou(r).
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Saturday, October 13, 2007 at 13:53:02
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Jerry Carp - "Arroyo Grande".....Come on JC..I thought the Snappers agreed to
quit Jacking on Lurch Kerns first wife!!
Itchy Richie McKinney
Rich McKinney
San Carlos, USA - Saturday, October 13, 2007 at 13:18:11
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There..............Now..........See what politics does to us 'round here! Just
too much for towel snappers.
It's all right Bill!! It's all been just a knightmare, er, bad dream, your
imagination, a horror movie
................ we gotta remember not to buy THAT wine again.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Saturday, October 13, 2007 at 07:49:05
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Victoria Secrets......So, it makes me feel good. And Jerry sends me nice things
in the mail. Live with it Lurch. Guy, you think that I dress up for only you?
Richie buys me perfume and Lurch keeps me in diamonds and....
<big><big><big>CUT! WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE, THIS IS NOT A GENDER
MOVIE....YOU'RE AUDITIONING FOR THE 'GAY DIVORCE' STAGE
PLAY......</big></big></big>It is a 1930's old movie for christ'S sakes.....SO
KNOCK IT OFF!
Oh, thanks for the crappy tip Ripps. <big><big> Yo!, Bakaleinikoff here. "Hey
you sweet succulent blond, let me show you what a man is really all
about</big></big>!".......How was that?
We'll call you <big><big>Next</big></big>. Carpenter, you're up........
<small><small><small>Sid, how many more of these idiots do we have to
audition?</small></small></small>
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, Ca USA - Saturday, October 13, 2007 at 02:20:16
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Mmmm.......nnnnn.....ssss....nnnnnntttnnn
There got the dam muzzle off. Ranger Bill sent it to me as an automatic feeder
for geezers suffering from TIA deficit.
RB, I'm enclosing a copy of the form letter of complaint to the CPSC and the
letter from my legal representative, Rich "The Kurd" McKinney. You've had it now
Boyo. I'd really tell you off if I knew what CPSC stood for. But being Turk, I
don't know which side my bread is buttered, much less what the h*** is going on.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Friday, October 12, 2007 at 23:20:05
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Sorry T.D.,
I was having a right brain moment...
I keep picturing Joe Cocker singing "You Are So Beautiful To Me" into a two-way
mirror facing John Belushi singing "A Little Help From My Friends"...
Girls get to wear the prettiest clothes, and make-up, and have multiple
handbags, and stylish high-heeled shoes, and wear fabulous scents, and silk
undies, have multi-orgasms, and paint their toe nails and finger nails, wear toe
and belly rings, purchase mysterious paper products, and spell their name
"Jaqueline" when they were christened "Jackie"... Guy's just want to have fun
too...
Just thought I'd try out "girl" instead of "guy", but I keep retaining water...
Got Schlitz?...
Willard, I think a gift certificate to "Victoria's Closet" might be more
appropriate...
Guido
guy martin webb
ventura, ca USA - Friday, October 12, 2007 at 22:48:14
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The Turks are pretty angry about being accused of genocide, when all they did
was obey God's will and kill a bunch of people whom didn't believe in the right
God. In fact they are so angry they are going to kill all the Kurds. Which goes
to show that we should thank God for religions, because without them, we'd have
a big overpopulation problem.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Friday, October 12, 2007 at 19:56:04
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Billy Bak - aaammmmmmppphhhgrmppp means, you better get rid of that 12' Black
and White you watched Sanford and Son on and get a new set. They broadcast in
color now! Right Jerry?
Richie
Rich McKinney
San diego, USA - Friday, October 12, 2007 at 19:52:44
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Richie is back, he is on the porch somebody hide the <i>Blow Up Suzie Doll</i>
....it's his Christmas present.
<center>*********<center> </center> </center>
Richie, welcome home we were just cleaning up the living room that is why
everybody is running around. Here have a seat and tell us about Idaho. Did you
find any gun racks at the flea markets? What, oh the banging sound, it's nothing
Richie, Lurch is just putting something away in the closet. Beer?
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Friday, October 12, 2007 at 19:44:36
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Snappers - WATCH IT...I"M BACK!!!!
RICHIE
Rich McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Friday, October 12, 2007 at 15:54:25
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REMINDER folks ... first and last names please!!! I don't think that is such a
difficult request and truly would appreciate your support.
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Friday, October 12, 2007 at 13:38:10
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Aaammmmmmppphhh............grmppp
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Friday, October 12, 2007 at 04:59:03
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I always knew that Lurch, he was always tall like you, kinda of looked like
Charlston Heston, begged us to buy him a 1957 Chevy convertible, and yes had
damn good looking gams. I was hurt for awhile....ten minutes.
Well, I could have been jealous and suspicious, and even walked away; not to
mention the hurt and pain of being cheated on by my best friend. But then I
thought to myself, Lurch makes the big bucks, I can black mail him and live a
very comfortabale life. When the Loch Ness Monster dies, I have another one to
promote. Aside from all that, I finally got my revenge on my ex-wife. Making
love to Lurch would be like impaling yourself on an Easter Island statue with no
emotions. Your turn cupcake. <big><big>GIANT TOWEL SNAP HERE</big></big>
Diane, loved the website and I put it on my other boards to give them some
exposure. We are up to two million hits a months. They should see a nice bump.
Guy, are you girl? If not, who is girl? Mike Ripps wants to know. She can pick
up an easy $20. Bobby, I don't think the six pack of Blatz will make it either.
Not every chick is as easy as Alice.
Damn, am I the only sane person here? Shut up Jerry.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Friday, October 12, 2007 at 02:44:18
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Bad news, Billy...
6'6" handsome Misha ain't your son! Sorry.
Lurch
- Friday, October 12, 2007 at 01:33:11
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http://thefiftiesandsixties.com/CarsWeDrove
Diane was kind enough to share this site. Sorry I'm not smart enough to make it
a simple link, Type it in, turn on your speakers, and share it with friends...
girl
USA - Thursday, October 11, 2007 at 23:09:48
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Diane...
I vote you "Poster of the Year"
www.thefifties
Forward Diane's posting to any of your friend's or fellow workers who like music
or cars...
Farm out girlfriend, and thank you.
girl
USA - Thursday, October 11, 2007 at 22:55:48
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My children are Michael and Lisa, son inlaw is also Michael (ziggy) daughter
inlaw Jackie. Grandsons are Lucian, Taj, and Kai. What the next one will be
called I'am afraid to ask.
pam gilchrist willen
valencia, ca USA - Thursday, October 11, 2007 at 22:47:44
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Our most recent grandson has a name that many of you will find very nostalgic !
At first we were thrown a bit by it...but we now love him AND his name : Duke
William Parker. His brother has an unusual name also: Hudson Robert.
Our other grandkids: Cole Patrick, Noah John, Colin Thomas and Isabella
Christina.......
5 boys to 1 girl !
So much fun...
Judi and Tom
Judi Hersh Welch
Pac Palisades, USA - Thursday, October 11, 2007 at 21:18:02
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Pam, speaking of Ziggies, I have no idea how our son came up with the name; he
didn't either, it just popped into his head at the last second. He is a
musician.
When we met our new neighbors two years ago, Ziggy was just born. The mother and
daughter came over for some cake and coffee and we told them about our first
grandchild being born; the other daughters were in school and the father, a
writer, was on a deadline next door. The mother was very happy about our new
grandchild and asked what her name is. I always hesitate a little anticipating
the blank eyes and expression hiding the hidden brain burst: "<I>ZIGGY, ...ARE
THESE PEOPLE ON DRUGS OR WHAT</I>!". The fake smile generally follows along with
"Oh, what a cute name" and their hidden brain burst is really saying "<I>ARE
THEY INSANE OR WHAT</I>!".
After we told the neighbor our new little granddaughter's name was Ziggy her
smile seemed genuine and warm. Her eyes didn't freeze up like a politicians when
caught with a tough question they know they have to answer with a lie.
How refreshing, we were stunned, they looked normal and weren't musicians
either. I responded and looked at their charming little daughter (7 or 8) and
said "So what is your name? "My name is Fizzy". True story.
So what are your childrens names
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Thursday, October 11, 2007 at 17:38:17
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My daughter inlaw was 27 weeks when Kai was born he spent 3 months in the
hospital and Jackie was there every day.
Bill, our son inlaw is called ziggy. Gene just gave him that name about the
first time he meet him said he looked like the zig zag man. He has cut his hair
since then.
My grandson who is 3 could never say grandma it always came out mamongy? so now
I'am called mogy, never wanted to be called grandma anyway.
pam gilchrist willen
valencia, ca USA - Thursday, October 11, 2007 at 14:27:30
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Pam...our pregnant neice just had that same procedure...I had never heard of
it...they sew them up to keep the baby in...she is 5 months along and started to
go in to labor so they sewed her up and put her on bed rest...AMAZING what they
can do nowadays....so thrilled that your premie is now 20 lbs. How many weeks
was she when she went into labor with him?
Hey all you car buffs, check out this site..really fun:
www.thefiftiesandsixties.com/CarsWeDrove
Log on and sit back and enjoy..
Hugs, Diane
Diane Johnson Graveline
Huntington Beach, Ca USA - Thursday, October 11, 2007 at 02:48:32
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Grandkids, what a coincidense, just got back from Petaluma after seeing our new
grandson Thomas. Took him (and the whole family) on a shopping tour; what a big
kid. Two months, fat and lively and cheerful as a bag of happy peanuts. Thomas
is our second following Ziggy Olivia Bakaleinikoff (she is two and very
beautiful).
Boy, do we ever spoil them. Their Pop is a 6'6' handsome giant (Mischa) of a guy
who is a great father. Watching him and his wife Sholina go through the paces of
being parents is a joy. They are very good at it. Nice day being a father and
grandpa.
Surprize, there is another side to me.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Thursday, October 11, 2007 at 02:04:00
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Guyster ... that "we" is Mr. Younger and me!!! We have 5 grandsons and 5
granddaughters. Six of the grands live here in Bend. We are very lucky to have
so many grandchildren most of the year, but when Christmas roles around ...
YIKE$$$$$$$ ;-))))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Wednesday, October 10, 2007 at 23:08:46
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Thanks Bobby, I like the other keyboard idea this is still driving me nuts.My
son inlaw set this up for me so I'll have him or my son install the new keyboard
because I'am computer illiterate and would screw it up. I've slowed down typing
so I can finish what I have to say before I hit the wrong key and it submits
which has been happening. Carol, 10 grandchildren I thought I was doing good
with 3 and another on the way how do it, I'am always shopping, clothes, toys.
Birthdays for my daughter son inlaw and 3 boys all right in a row. The one on
the way thank goodness is due the end of march. Jackie is the one who had the
2lb preme who now weighs 20lb, our million dollar baby. She will have to have
the surgery (do'nt know what they call it) but they sew her up and she will have
bed rest for most of the pregnancy. Think I'am getting the hang of this thing.
Pam Gilchrist Willen
Valencia, Ca USA - Wednesday, October 10, 2007 at 22:50:56
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TD...
You and I have ten grandchildren?...
Apparently I should have been taking notes back in the 60's and 70's...
Shouldn't I at least have some wallet photos?
Do they look like me? (Please God, make her say no...)
I have contacted my Ombudsman with regard to setting up a trust for the little
tykes...
I hope it was good for you...
Please forward Cary's e-mail so I can forward the "Homeland Security - Fighting
Terrorism Since 1492" screen saver Mary and I currently use...
guy webb
USA - Wednesday, October 10, 2007 at 22:34:58
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Hi Danny Stat - - -
Yes I can still see that antenna falling in brutal ultra slow motion.
Good to hear from you.
ssilver@earthlink.net
www.niederheimbach.com
Steve Silver
Niederheimbach, Germany - Wednesday, October 10, 2007 at 20:32:13
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Now the House Foreign Relations Committee has approved a resolution condemning
the Ottoman Turks for genocide against the Armenians. They should preface their
sanctimonious resolution by saying that the USA is no holier, because it did a
much more massive genocide against native people here.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Wednesday, October 10, 2007 at 20:32:09
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Guy ... we have 10 grandchildren ranging in ages 2 to 14 ... NO MORE, thank you
very much!!! ;-)))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Wednesday, October 10, 2007 at 10:34:07
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Stewart M...Mom's rule!
Know what?
I am beginning to think, let our kids find out all this stuff for themself.
They don't listen anyhow...
Just give us the Grandkid's...
We will make the corrections...
guy webb
USA - Tuesday, October 09, 2007 at 22:17:46
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Speaking of privatizing, why is it that our government has to keep privatizing
natural resources by licensing extraction for a pittance, when Putin is having
his government profit from the resources it owns, and the money being generated
by that action is boosting the economy and paying around 80% of the federal
budget?
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Tuesday, October 09, 2007 at 16:10:12
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Stuart M. That was a great clip on <i>You Tube</i>. I knew every line by heart,
still laughing.
Hal, it sounds like you are running out of memory space or your server is out
dated. Have you tried Firefox yet? Have you thought of letting Lurch lay hands
on your keyboard? (he looks an awful lot like Charlton Heston). Are you doing
what Richie does all the time, are you trying to get the Uni Hi website on your
television? Hal, how many fingers am I holding up? Is Britney Spears over there
Hal?
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, October 09, 2007 at 16:01:12
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It seems to me that Blackwater is not the beginning of the privatization of the
military. Rather, it started with the volunteer military long ago. Now the
neocons are trying to privatize the military, the intelligence services, the
schools, the social security system, and if possible, every other agency and
bureaucracy possible. They want to make government into a profitable business,
to the extent possible, irrespective of the damage to good government. As good
old Ike said, beware the military industrial complex. As Lula De Silva says
about his opposition, not everything should be privatized.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Tuesday, October 09, 2007 at 15:51:25
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Carol, I have no problem getting to the site it's when I log on it takes about a
minute or two for the connection and when I gen on it seems to be edited-- blank
spots in the pictures or no pictures at all.
Hal Thorburn
Orange, Ca. USA - Tuesday, October 09, 2007 at 15:04:22
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Could it be that Blackwater is the beginning of privitization of the Armed
Forces of the U.S.? Perfect form of deniability. Then politicos won't have to
lie. And we all know how much they HATE to do THAT!
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Tuesday, October 09, 2007 at 10:55:41
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You are so right Cary, we have to look at the bright side of what this
administration is doing to us and our fellow Americans. Torture is finally
acceptable as a national solution; it does not matter if it has been pointed out
that it does not work, as suggested by all of the intelligence agencies
including the CIA, NSA, FBI and SRA among a few. This White house of course
spends millions of tax payer dollars through Fox and other owned networks to
tell you it is ok. So I guess it is ok. If it helps the '<i>Skull and Cross
Bones Society</i>' it must be good for us. I have to be more understanding.
Thank you Cary for bringing me back down to earth, I am not a good American I
guess, I should spend more time picking up the soap. Here is a true item that
will bolster Bush's goodwill in saving us taxpayers the burdon of wasting money
on our troops when they come home. Not everybody is as sharp as George or Rush
or Chenny or the in-clan........"You go, I'll just stay home and make
money".....They are so cute. Oh here is a article hot off of the press. See
Cary, you are right....look how much money they are going to save us.......what
genius. Enjoy
<center>***********</center>
National Guard Troops Denied Benefits After Longest Deployment Of Iraq War
Rhonda Erskine, Online Content Producer
Created: 10/3/2007 2:39:29 PM
Updated: 10/3/2007 5:32:02 PM
MINNEAPOLIS, MN (NBC) -- When they came home from Iraq, 2,600 members of the
Minnesota National Guard had been deployed longer than any other ground combat
unit. The tour lasted 22 months and had been extended as part of President
Bush's surge.
1st Lt. Jon Anderson said he never expected to come home to this: A government
refusing to pay education benefits he says he should have earned under the GI
bill.
"It's pretty much a slap in the face," Anderson said. "I think it was a scheme
to save money, personally. I think it was a leadership failure by the senior
Washington leadership... once again failing the soldiers."
Anderson's orders, and the orders of 1,161 other Minnesota guard members, were
written for 729 days.
Had they been written for 730 days, just one day more, the soldiers would
receive those benefits to pay for school.
"Which would be allowing the soldiers an extra $500 to $800 a month," Anderson
said.
That money would help him pay for his master's degree in public administration.
It would help Anderson's fellow platoon leader, John Hobot, pay for a degree in
law enforcement.
"I would assume, and I would hope, that when I get back from a deployment of 22
months, my senior leadership in Washington, the leadership that extended us in
the first place, would take care of us once we got home," Hobot said.
Both Hobot and Anderson believe the Pentagon deliberately wrote orders for 729
days instead of 730. Now, six of Minnesota's members of the House of
Representatives have asked the Secretary of the Army to look into it -- So have
Senators Amy Klobuchar and Norm Coleman.
Klobuchar said the GI money "shouldn't be tied up in red tape," and Coleman said
it's "simply irresponsible to deny education benefits to those soldiers who just
completed the longest tour of duty of any unit in Iraq."
Anderson said the soldiers he oversaw in his platoon expected that money to be
here when they come home.
"I had 23 guys under my command," Anderson said. "I promised to take care of
them. And I'm not going to end taking care of them when this deployment is over,
and it's not over until this is solved."
The Army did not respond questions Tuesday afternoon.
Senators Klobuchar and Coleman released a joint statement saying the Army
secretary, Pete Geren, is looking into this personally, and they say Geren asked
a review board to expedite its review so the matter could be solved by next
semester.
Minnesota National Guard spokesman Lt. Col. Kevin Olson said the soldiers are
"victims of a significant injustice."
<center>******</center>
We just went through two years of this with my daughter in law to get her her
100% disability. Oh, then there is Katrina. Yea, real nice guy. Hey why don't
you veto the S-Chip while your are at it?...........Oh, you already did.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, October 09, 2007 at 02:33:36
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Just do what your momma said to do!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxT5NwQUtVM
smuller
PacPalCalUsa, Earth - Monday, October 08, 2007 at 23:48:21
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Pamie... dont ditch the laptop... get a standard keyboard with a plug that will
connect directly into the laptop... your problem is the "Interface" not the
laptop... those keyboards are kinda tiny... and a new keyboard is only about 20
bucks... and will give you a whole new lease on life with a laptop.
I use a laptop, with a "wireless" keyboard, and write VOLUMES on it... and the
only connection I have with the laptop... is the keyboard... so it's really
important to buy one that you like... play around with them... get the feel of
them... then buy one. SAME thing with a MOUSE... I like a trackball... (Logitech
makes the best mouses... [mice] [meeses] whatever the plural of an electronic
mouse is...) I love my trackball because my "desk space" is very limited... so
is my tent... and so is my sleeping bag... Homelessness is a whole new
challenge... and so invigerating.
The point is... when you're into making a change, sometimes it's not the
"device" that's the problem, but how you're interfacing with it. I'm going to
guess that the problem you're having with your laptop is the keys... not the
laptop...
for example... I set my laptop on top of a box... and my keyboard is on a piece
of plywood across the arms of my chair.. at EXACTLY the right position to make
it comfortable for me to use it. I seldom look at my laptop... because my
fingers know exactly where to press the keys... My connection with my laptop is
my keyboard... not my eyes...
Try different stuff... I'm almost SURE you'll find it's a really super neat tool
that you'll find is actually your new best friend.
Bobby Brann
Wellton, AZ USA - Monday, October 08, 2007 at 23:39:33
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Willard,
guys, gams, gabs, gaps, gads, gigs, gobs, gigs, gels, gats, gads, gins, gods,
gems, gags, gums,
I'm getting dizzy...
BLACKWATER will soon be awarded the contract to guard our borders, which should
make certain gap toothed neo's extremely happy...
Is there a difference between having a disaster plan and hoarding...? If we
chose to, no opium would leave Afganistan, and you would have to go to South
America to obtain cocain. Marijuana on the other hand, can be grown on your
kitchen window sill. I don't know anyone that grows their own tobacco...
Coffee, tea, and beer can be produced legally at home...
I don't advocate any of them...
guy webb
USA - Monday, October 08, 2007 at 22:09:42
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Diane, It is the lap top, I keep hitting the wrong keys. Iam used to the one at
work.
Rich our 28 bullett is running 115 with a taylor performane engine, and the prop
hits the rev metor have no idea how fast the boat will go. Talk about crazy
pam gilchrist willen
valencia, ca USA - Monday, October 08, 2007 at 19:17:05
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Hi Pam...I just read your message and I think there is an error..probalbly the
laptop...I know I hated using Craig's laptop until he got a mouse...I hate
routing around on that little square. Anyway, it reads like you killed aomeone
and I know that is not the case. So sad and ironic that two boat magazine
photographers went down in helicopters....so very sad. Congratulations on your
huge turnout at your Regatta for your Howard Boats...
Hugs, Diane
Diane Graveline Johnson
Huntington Beach, Ca USA - Monday, October 08, 2007 at 17:23:04
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Another blessing of the war on terror should be mentioned, namely, the
production of opium in Afghanistan is way up. The Bush Administration always
takes positions that will strengthen business.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Monday, October 08, 2007 at 17:16:57
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British Intelligence has now come out with a report saying that the war on
terror has been fueling Al Quaida. This it appears that our policy is killing
three birds with one stone, i.e., fueling Al Quaida, destroying Iraq, and
messing up our economy. But at least we can be thankful that Mr. Cheney's former
employer has been able to make enough money to fully fund his retirement plan,
so every dark cloud has a silver lining.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Monday, October 08, 2007 at 17:10:09
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Hal ... were you able to do what Jerry suggested and if so, did it help with
logging onto our website????
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Monday, October 08, 2007 at 16:24:17
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Richie, a fart is when everybody on the elevator holds their breath until they
turn blue. The only person with a pink face is the fart dispenser. You may have
to much hair in your nose if you can't smell them or maybe farts smell better
than your cheap cologne.
Guy, gabs are over weight hairless Labrador retrievers over nine years of age. A
gap is the space between Alfred E. Newmans' front teeth. Gams is a nickname for
Lurch's legs.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Monday, October 08, 2007 at 11:45:52
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Pam - What's a Fart?
Richie the River Rat
Flatbottoms forever!!
A 500 LB boat with so much horsepower it's just stupid....You know what I'm
talking about girlfriend!!
Rich McKinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Monday, October 08, 2007 at 00:44:30
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The Style of the Donohues
It's with remorse to hear of Corb Donohues passing. He and his brother, Mike,
set a standard for style among surfers from the South Bay to Malibu. Mike was a
early friend of the Beach Boys. His primo 1950 Ford Woodie station wagon was the
model for the logo of Jimmy Z sportswear.
Corb graduated from University of California, Berkeley , with a degreee in
literature. His dad had a nice house, near the Uplifters Club in Santa Monia
Canyon. His advertising/PR business was in the Scandia Restaurant building on
Sunset Blvd. The disquished surf movie producer, Grant Roloff, was a neighbor in
Rustic Canyon. Corb was an early manager of the hippie rocker, Jessie Colin
Young. Corb was ever the gentleman, literate, and a good sportsman. He will be
missed.
Peter Dane
Salem, OR USA - Sunday, October 07, 2007 at 23:24:01
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I have a new lap top and it is driving me nuts. eventually I'll get used to it
unless I toss it.
pam gilchrist willen
valencia, ca USA - Sunday, October 07, 2007 at 23:22:22
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A couple of weeks aga we had our regatta in Lake Havasu on the way out it poured
thought everyone would turn around but we ended up with 40 boats and 250 for
dinner sat. We were without a helicopter the pilot for hot boat magaqine we
killed bringing back a new one. Two days before the photographer for power boat
magazine was killed at a photo shoot in sarasota they were flying to low. Bob
Teague was driving the boat and missed hitting it but parts hit the boat.
pam gilchrist willen
valencia, ca USA - Sunday, October 07, 2007 at 23:16:50
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gabs?
guy
USA - Sunday, October 07, 2007 at 22:50:30
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WHO KNEW?
Vincent X. Flaherty, a Los Angeles Examiner sports columnist, Pulitser Prize
winner, and father of our own Vince Flaherty, had an idea...
Vince hasn't mentioned that his father is responsible for the Los Angeles
Dodgers being located in Chavas Revine.
Vince, can you please fill in the gabs, in your well loved, and DNA derived
style?
We have some history amongst us...
guy webb
ventura, ca USA - Sunday, October 07, 2007 at 22:49:30
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Ranger Bill, If everyone on the plant stop farting maybe we could get rid of the
ozone
pam gilchrist willen
valencia, ca USA - Sunday, October 07, 2007 at 22:36:54
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<center><BIG><big> STOP THE METHANE MADNESS</CENTER></BIG> </big>
<big>Los Angeles California</big>. The mayor along with the city council late
Friday afternoon condemned the thousands of new motorized shoes that have been
plaguing the city sidewalks for the past few months. Mostly used by seniors,
these new high speed shoe transportation devices have angered many younger
citizens and leave a most undesirable odor in the air that lingers in stores and
eating establishments and even makes it way into private homes.
Originally designed and manufactured by <i>Ranger Bill Industries</i> in
Mongolia, the motorized shoes were created to help give seniors over eighty a
cheap form of energy efficient transportation. Also known as the <i>Hybrid
Flying Shoes</i> because they operate with miniature motors which run off of
human toe jam and human jet propulsion via compressed colon gases. The speed
limit on sidewalk streets is ten miles per hour however these hybrid motorized
shoes can reach speeds of nearly sixty miles an hour under proper conditions.
Unfortunately, hundreds of seniors seem to violate the speed limit everyday and
put fellow pedestrians in grave danger. Just last week there was a high speed
rear ender that seriously injured a eighty six year old grandmother and a ninety
year old male house painter. The impact was so severe that the house painter's
dentures were embedded in the grandmother's Depends. Luckily, both are doing
well and expected to be released from the hospital soon.
Aside from the many accidents caused by careless operation (talking on cell
phones or adjusting support stockings) the methane gas that is omitted by the
seniors is actually more then a full grown Elk. Smokers and motorized shoes
don't mix either; many people have been seriously burned while smoking or
lighting a match to close to a operating body orifice. Many doctors are now
saying that excessive methane gas not only smells very foul, it is like inhaling
poison and can be very harmful if not deadly if not checked.
Please, wont you help us make these dreaded motorized shoes illegal in Los
Angeles? Our seniors mean a lot to us and quite frankly most of us hate the
smell of sulfur while we are shopping. Thank you.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Sunday, October 07, 2007 at 20:36:09
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Bonnie and I are leaving for Casper wyoming tomorrow for 5 days.....Have an aunt
and uncle that need some help...2 sweet people and we are so glad we can make
their lives a little better...Surfin son Dan is in Bali....said he wrecked his
motor scooter...where in the hell did he get a motor scooter?....I love my son
but I am not even going to ask!!
Luv Ya All
Richie the Cowboy
Rich McKinney
casper, USA - Sunday, October 07, 2007 at 15:04:35
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Ranger Bill ... TOOOOOOOOOOOO FUNNY!!! Thanks for the laugh!! ;-0
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Sunday, October 07, 2007 at 10:27:16
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Thank you Carol for the shameless plug in behalf of Ranger Bill's patented
<i>motorized shoes</i> for seniors. This is the transportation answer for those
over eighty who can't drive because of DUIs, faulty glasses, or they just
totaled their car for the fifth or sixth time.
Fueled by toe jam, there is no need for fossil fuels and the smell is off set by
the energy savings. 0 to 60 in less than twenty one minutes is a modern break
through in speed and technology for high speed foot technology. The wind blowing
in your face and out other body orifices gives a total feeling of freedom. Yes,
with our special diet plan of beans and greens you will feel the power of
body-jet power like you never know before.
Feel the power of motorized shoes for only *$29.95 per foot. The more you toot
the quicker the route. Extra organic toe jam available.
*Slightly higher for sizes 4 and over. Call now! 1-800 <i>flying feet</i>.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Sunday, October 07, 2007 at 00:31:07
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Carol, you got me by one! :)
Maybe when we're that old, the aisle will be a moving walkway, otherwise wheelie
shoes sound fun...why wait!
Melantha T M D Bobrick
Bend, OR USA - Saturday, October 06, 2007 at 13:51:54
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p.s. "Wheeling down the aisle" ... I meant in "Heelys" of course!! For those who
aren't in the know, "Heelys" are tennis-type shoes with wheels on the bottom!!
;-))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Saturday, October 06, 2007 at 13:33:59
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Melantha & Mike ... I couldn't believe my bad timing getting sick the day before
your wedding. I am hoping you two will be renewing your vows on your 25th
Wedding Anniversary and I can be the flower girl then. Ummmmmmm, let's see, I'll
be 89 years old ... okay, so I might have to wheel down the aisle, but I still
should be able to throw those rose pedals!! ;-)
Everyone, Melantha realllllly took first & last name to heart ... thank you!!!
But, I beat you Melantha ...
Carol McConkey Varner Reed Wilson Younger
Bend, OR USA - Saturday, October 06, 2007 at 09:33:00
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Sweet! We still love you too!
Stuart Muller
The Love Universe - Friday, October 05, 2007 at 20:40:59
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Thank you Stuart Muller for posting the nice message about Corb Donohue,
he fought a brave battle, now he's free to surf the cosmos.
I still love you both!
Melantha Tatum Muller Donohue Bobrick
Bend, OR USA - Friday, October 05, 2007 at 20:22:15
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THANK YOU ALL FOR THE VERY SWEET WEDDING WISHES, we truly appreciate your
messages! We had a grand 4 day celebration. We really missed our Flower Girl
Carol for the big event! We're so glad she's fine now :)
Michael and Melantha Bobrick
Bend, OR USA - Friday, October 05, 2007 at 20:20:14
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Mine works fine Hal (DSL and dial up); did you down load Firefox yet? It is free
and only takes a fee minutes; that may help. You might also try what Jerry has
told you.
William Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Friday, October 05, 2007 at 19:46:54
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Hal and Carol,
Not a problem on my connection, which is a dsl, so I suggest you clear out your
browser cache if it's Internet Explorer (<alt> - tools, Internet Options, Delete
Files). I clear them all (Clear History, Delete Cookies, Delete Files with
Delete Offline Files box checked) every time I close IE out and don't figure on
surfing the net any more that day. Keeps everything running as fast as IE can.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Friday, October 05, 2007 at 16:42:19
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Please all respond to Hal's question. Maybe it is my new Halloween theme Hal and
if it is, I'll delete it.
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Friday, October 05, 2007 at 16:07:03
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Is it just me,or does it take a longer time to log on for everyone? The past few
days it has taken minutes not seconds to log on to the message board. and when I
try to go to the contents some of the items are just not available.
Hal Thorburn
Orange, Ca. USA - Friday, October 05, 2007 at 15:18:50
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RIP Corb Donahue.
May you rest in eternal sunshine,and catch The Big One whenever you want.
Stuart M
State Beach , Earth - Friday, October 05, 2007 at 14:35:57
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How about we shut down PCH between Magoo Rock and the Maclure Tunnel except for
local residence? Happens all the time during and emergency. I worked at Norm
Reno's Flying A at Sunset and Swarthmore in the Center in Pacific Palisades, and
when the Coast Highway shut down to landslides, floods, armed stand-offs, major
accidents, deer crossings, etc., all traffic diverted to the Valley via Decker,
Kanaan, Los Virgenis, Topanga Canyons, et. al.
Let L.A. face the traffic problem it has created. If you want to access the
Pacific Ocean between Venice and Point Magoo, ride a bike, walk, jog, or watch
it on TV. You are much more likely to take care of the trash and graffiti if you
never leave home...
guy webb
USA - Thursday, October 04, 2007 at 22:48:56
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I'm meeting with state Senator Sheila Kuehl's office next week to address the
area north of the old Sunspot (the Oxy Oil site) and the Castellammare area
Caltrans disgraces!
Fight On!
(USC 1967)
Stuart Muller
Pacific Palisades , Good O'l USA - Thursday, October 04, 2007 at 22:28:17
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PS: Absolutely don't want to leave Stuart out ! A big thanks to you also for
what you've done and continue to do for our Palisades Community !
Judi Hersh Welch
Pac Pal
USA - Thursday, October 04, 2007 at 18:06:32
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Bravo, Vince ! Tom and I were just coincidentally commenting on how absolutely
gross the area between Chautauqua and Temescal looks ! Those white cement
barriers, that little shack, old equipment, trash, and garbage left by the
homeless guys has littered that strip for years. After the '94 quake, that big
hunk of the home that slipped was left dangling precariously on the hillside
above our daily commute....a little scary ! I wonder how long it will take
before someone takes notice?
Things aren't much better between Sunset and Topanga where those ugly barriers,
tarps and trash litter the PCH.
Thanks for what you've done to try to help !
Judi and Tom
Judi Hersh Welch
Pac Palisades, USA - Thursday, October 04, 2007 at 18:04:20
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Since we're on a nostalgia kick, thought I'd share the letter I sent to the
Palisadian Post and is in this week's edition:
"Thanks for taking us back to the summer we met, 1960. I was in the 11th grade
and my husband was a senior. We had a long and boring Geometry class together.
After summer school, we would go in his '53 Chevy down to State Beach and sit
against that coveted wall you pictured. In fact, we both recognized at least two
people in the photo !
Imagine that, in those days, you could run barefoot across an un-fenced and
less-traveled PCH to grab a burger at Roys, running back with the greasy delight
in one hand and a cherry coke in the other. We would happily baste in the sun
using a combination of cocoa butter or coconut oil and iodine to add insult to
injury. ( This may explain why so many of us are having to remove skin cancers
in our 60's!)
My kids marvel at the fact that we didn't have cell phones ( we always needed to
hang on to nickels and dimes to make a phone call....), backpacks, computers or
video games. We drove slower then and didn't use seat belts.
During the summer of '61, my high school club quartet , The Four Coquettes, had
a hig single on Capitol Records called "Sparkle and Shine". We would listen to
our transistor radios, all tuned in to KFWB or KRLA to hear it and when we did,
we would scream in joy. As odd as it may seem, when you attended school with
Nancy Sinatra, Jan and Dean, Randy Newman, and Cathy Kohner (Gidget) to name a
few of the many entertainers or offspring of entertainers we knew, having the
opportunity to make a record wasn't as far-fetched as it may have seemed then.
Today it all seems like a fantasy which could never happen again. Those were
truly Happy Days !
How wonderful that we'll see the name Roy's again in the Palisades and we wish
Tom Colburn the very best ! If only he could duplicate that greasy burger !
Thank You again for taking us back to a very special time that we will never see
again."
Sincerely,
Judi ( Hersh) and Tom Welch
Uni S'60 and S'61
Judi Hersh Welch
Pac Palisades, CA USA - Thursday, October 04, 2007 at 17:58:48
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For a while there I was the president of the Pacific Palisades Historical
Society and I was also a member representing Castellammare on the Palisades
Community Council. I tried to get through to Mayor Riordan or someone on his
staff about the state of affairs/bureaucratic nightmare along the PCH in our
town, but I got nothing but lip service from interns or deputies who sounded
like they were about 14 years old. Yep politicians.
Now what is going on in the Palisades along the coast isn’t as intense as let’s
say what’s happening in Burma or other places like that these days. But still
you can go to so many third world countries that are really poor compared to the
U.S., and you will nevertheless find pristine coastlines where someone has cared
enough to preserve scenic and historical features.
Take the Castellammare of Pacific Palisades for instance. It was styled after
the town of the same name on the Gold Coast of Italy where the original
developer Frank Meline and his wife vacationed with Alphonso Bell in 1925. Part
of their development was the Paseo Miramar tract and the Bel Air Bay Club. In
fact, there were plans for a Mediterranean style shopping village with tile
roofs at PCH and Sunset where Vons is now, and a long pier.
The Great Depression put an end to that (not the one in 1929 you see, Meline
became very depressed…) No I’m just kidding. Actually the whole thing went bust
in ‘29 and the serpentine streets of the Castellammare rapidly became a gothic
backdrop for Raymond Chandler novels, with a sprinkling of lonely Spanish
Colonial mansions separated by ocean fog and about ten abandoned blocks of
deserted hay growing on the blocks and through the sidewalks in between.
The place sat, haunted by what could have been, through the 30’s and 40’s, and
then was suddenly built out entirely with smaller ranch style homes within only
4 years during the boom after the 2nd World War.
One of the things that remained however was the wonderful promenade along
Castellammare’s coast highway. Built of stone in 1928, in an era when builders
could afford men with the time and patience to make something worthwhile, it had
been intended to serve as an elevated walkway, so that gentlemen and ladies with
parasols could take leisurely strolls in the salty air by the sea.
Most of the Castellammare Promenade is still there, and could be restored, and
probably would have been restored, if, instead of Mr. Yaroslavski and his
dullard counterparts in the State of California, the local populace was
fortunate enough to have had an evil third world dictator along the way, who at
least realized the value of tourism and the meaning of pride in one’s coastline.
You can travel anywhere along the world’s coastlines from Acapulco Bay to Bali
and appreciate the beauty of the natural coastal environment. But come here to
legendary California, in the proudest nation on earth, and experience a
coastline where for legal reasons bureaucrats are afraid to remove parts of
fallen houses and plastic tarps from slipping hillsides, and then to fix the
sliding dirt, they implement engineering solutions that pay no consideration
whatsoever to aesthetics.
It wouldn’t be hard to build things that enhance the surroundings instead of
insult them. But hey why change?
Many years ago when Cal Trans decided that the picturesque Castellammare bridge
spanning the highway was too low for the truckers, they tore it down and erected
a design with an identity crisis and a few phony low budget imitation tiles on
top.
And instead of preserving the Castellammare Promenade, when the coast highway
was moved slightly, some real intellectual at Cal Trans thought it would be a
great idea to use the space they created in front of the promenade to erect a
long chain link fence, and store their construction vehicles and debris (stuff
that could have been easily tucked away inside the mouth of nearby Topanga
Canyon). And it’s been an eyesore like that ever since.
Vince Flaherty
USA - Thursday, October 04, 2007 at 03:16:36
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!!!NEWS FLASH!!
I hope that I'm not interupting anything, but her's a link to my latest rant re:
Will Rogers State Beach $13 million dollar rehab in last weeks Palisadian-Post.
I have a love-hate relationship with writing.
Hugs,
Stuart
Click here and you get a color illustration of the scene and the county's
response:
http://www.palisadespost.com/content/index.cfm?Story_ID=3241
or just read my viewpoint, here:
Viewpoint-Counterpoint:
Lake Yaroslavsky Now Open
September 26, 2007
By STUART MULLER
Special to the Palisadian-Post
County Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky's name is prominently displayed on the big
sign at the Temescal Canyon entrance to Will Rogers State Beach. In fact, his
name is almost as big as Ol' Will's! I guess he takes credit for the rehab job
along the beach. This means he also deserves credit for its current problems:
the project is still not complete and the costs continue.
Last Saturday morning, after the first significant rainfall since spring, the
area west of the Temescal Canyon entrance, around the parking attendant booth,
was flooded with six inches of water over an area of about a half acre. I
propose we call this Lake Yaroslavsky, in his honor!
Last year, when his deputy, Maria Chong Castillo, and the county's Project
Manager Gilberto Garcia appeared before the Palisades Community Council to
explain the long delay in completing the project and the massive cost overrun,
they vowed to have the project completed before summer began. It would require a
major push, they said. I expressed my great concerns that, in the rush to
completion, the quality of the work would be compromised. I also demanded
accountability for any problems.
Now, it seems that my fears were well founded. In addition to the parking lot
drainage problems, there are myriad other problems: the outdoor showers don't
drain; the layout of the exit restricts egress to PCH; there is no vehicle
access from the east parking lot to the west parking lot; there are landscaping
issues (dead trees, sprinklers spraying away after the rainstorm, during a
period of drought); a concession stand that never opened; poor workmanship in
the building's finish work; an incomplete bike path; and haphazard wiring to
public telephones.
I'm sure if you asked the county's Garcia about these problems he'd give the
standard bureaucratic reply: 'We're working on it.' Does that mean just getting
paid or does it mean accomplishing tasks in an efficient, competent and
professional manner? I wish Will Rogers could give us his thoughts on this!
I don't feel that I'm looking at a 'half-empty glass.' I think the glass is at
least two-thirds full. It's just that we paid for a full glass and the waiter's
gone home. And don't expect to get a full glass at the beach snack bar. It's
closed! Zev, whom are you going to hold accountable for this mess? And who's
going to fix it? Can you point your finger and tell us your intentions, Mr.
Supervisor?
(Muller is a member of the Palisades Community Council and a past Citizen of the
Year. The county has spent more than $13 million renovating the beach. The
county awarded Gonzales Construction, Inc. the contract in November 2005, and
work began a month later.)
Stuart M
Pacific Palisades , Southwestern California USA - Wednesday, October 03, 2007 at
23:39:07 _______________________________________________
Hi all!!
So sorry to be absent from OUR board for so long, but I've taken on a full-time
job and I just don't have the time or energy right now to read and post properly
(wouldn't want any imperfect posts, would we???) I'll post properly soon.
Barbara Colwell Cameron
Vancouver, BC Canada - Wednesday, October 03, 2007 at 22:55:29
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Vince ... I erased your last posting. There was nothing there, no message, just
a bunch of empty space. Maybe you had a message in your head, but it didn't go
to your fingers!! ;-)
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Wednesday, October 03, 2007 at 09:16:01
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Exactly, Cary.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Wednesday, October 03, 2007 at 03:34:08
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I see your point, Peter, and I see the point of the contradictory voices too.
Our fathers were in Patton's Army and they did a hell of a good job. My Dad
never talked about the war, for obvious reasons, but I once heard him really lay
into some immigrant whom criticized the old USA. Plus, he got through it by
serendipity, as his jeep hit a mine and the driver was killed, but he lived. The
good soldiers take the heat and get killed and maimed. On the other side of the
coin, you get these leaders like Lyndon Johnson, whom invented the Gulf of
Tonkin Incident, to get Congressional approval, and like George Bush, whom
invented the "mushroom cloud" scare. When these elephants roll over, the grass
gets crushed. How many did we lose in Viet Nam because of Lyndon's phoney Gulf
of Tonkin Incident? Wasn't it about 58,000?
Assuming, for purposes of discussion, that there is a valid reason for Iraq, why
is the cost not being funded by taxes, as with every other war in history? And
that unfunded debt has driven our dollar down close to 40% or more as against
other currencies. None of these people running for President talk about our
bloody dollar, and what its demise has done to regular people, such as those on
social security. I think our troops are professionals, and not wimps, and they
can take the conflict at home, if they can take volunteering for the military.
The poor guys in WWII were not professional mercenaries, as we have now. They
were mostly volunteers and conscripts.
I qualify my remarks by pointing out that I was able to avoid the draft by a
speeding ticket (long story about serendipity).
You are a good man Peter Dane, and it is nice that everyone has this place to
give their two bits worth.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Wednesday, October 03, 2007 at 02:35:06
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Very well said Guy, like always you have a way to zero right in on the reality
of the situation. All of us want what is best for our country and our armed
forces who risk their lives for us. We all take turns in our own way on the home
front. The greatest strength of America is our individual voices who speak out
with out fear; that is more powerful then any dictator or atom bomb. Just
remember, the Germans never saw it coming either; and they didn't speak up. You
saw what happened.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Wednesday, October 03, 2007 at 01:06:20
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May I respectfully suggest that the point has been made and perhaps Richie,
always the generous gentleman, said it best in his comments to Pete, though not
in the specific words from the Bible, "Forsake not an old friend." Peter Dane is
an old friend, though he himself sometimes forgets it in his zeal to get a point
across.
I would also add the obvious: No one is going to change anyone else's mind by
publically attacking him, much less get the other person to even consider views
other than his own. Only shoe repair shops benefit from heels being dug in.
As Richie said, Pete is a bright guy. Give him a chance to consider why so many
of his old friends feel differently than he does. I would ask him to also
consider that those who, like Messrs. Bush and Cheney, with little else to offer
as a convincing argument, but to drape themselves in the flag and condemn those
who disagree with them as being unpatriotic, would do well to be reminded of the
often quoted words of Samuel Johnson:
"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
Stuart Kern
- Wednesday, October 03, 2007 at 00:46:48
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We ALL have friends and relatives and countrymen/women serving in Iraq and
Afganistan. They are our family, our children, our finest. Don't DARE imply that
we don't support them if we disagree with Bush and his "policy".
That is akin to saying we don't support the Bruins or the Trojans if we decry
their coach's play selection...A leader or a coach can lose a game or a war much
more easily than the poor souls who lay their bodies down in the fight to
perservere...
The names Napoleon (pick a number...), Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Chamerlain, Custer,
Nixon, McCarthy, Agnew, Dewey, Angus, Fowley, come to mind.
Cloaking oneself in the armor of our precious children, preceeded by a
Hamlin-like piper's trill to lure them to the front of the lines is more
cowardly than yelling FIRE in a crowded theater. At least there is a slight
chance that there was an actual fire...
guy martin
USA - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 at 23:05:27
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You think that was bad Richie, you should have smelled it when one of the
interpreters fell for it and pulled his finger.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 at 21:55:26
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There certainly was a weapon of mass destruction in Iraq...Saddam's breath when
they pulled him out of his spiderhole!
Richie
rich mckinney
baghdad, USA - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 at 21:37:58
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Evie and I moved to Oregon one year after we married and lived there for 4
years. Both our kids were born there. My sisters and many of my nieces and
nephews live throughout the state. But I wouldn't choose to live there again,
even if Evie WAS able to be relocated. Not because there are so many
close-minded people there, although that IS the main reason we left, but because
I don't handle the cold, wet weather well anymore. While we were there the
"favorite" bumper sticker was "Don't Californicate Oregon". I hope, for those of
you still living there or newly resident, those attitudes are much less evident.
Why am I sticking my nose into this stream? Because it's here and because I can.
Got nothing wothwhile or humorous to add. Just felt like it while the fur is
flying.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 at 20:36:58
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I guess Melantha and I are now Oregonians, too. Certainly by way of California.
It appears both places are blessed with their share of knuckleheads. I think the
difference is in the size of the knuckles. Go California.
Mike and Melantha
Mike & Melantha Bobrick
Bend, OR USA - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 at 20:03:23
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I guess I am somewhat of an Oregonian as I have lived here for over two years
now, but I am very proud to be from California. California is a wonderful state.
I can't begin to understand the attitude of anyone feeling that they have the
right to put an entire state!!
Diane, I thought your comments were great ... thank you for sharing your honest
thoughts & feelings.
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 at 19:42:28
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I am so shocked at your comments, Peter....at first I thought it was another
Oregonian making a joke about leaving CA, but soon realized you were serious.
I think you need to lighten up....I am very proud to be from a place with a wide
heterogeneous group of people who can express themselves freely and welcome
everyone's opinion. I went to USC where the majority of people were very
Conservative ( many of Nixon's Watergate crew were students there with me,
actually !).....yet loved the atmosphere at Cal, where people were sitting in to
protest Viet Nam....we are a diverse, wonderful group of people !
Where did this anger originate? I'm curious........
Diane, thanks for your comments ! You know, we also find lots to agree on even
though in different political parties !! ( Especially the Trojans.... ha ha ha
ha ha)
Judi Hersh Welch
Pac Palisades, USA - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 at 19:14:51
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Heather just called me to make that correction.She is doing well.
Richie
Rich mckinney
san diego, USA - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 at 17:23:00
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Correction - It was Colonel BILL Locklear who was a DEAN at UCLA. Heather was a
UCLA student when she was discovered.
Richie
Richie the Bonehead
westwood, USA - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 at 17:16:59
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Diane - We would probably disagree on some issues and would probably see eye to
eye on many others..But, I totally admire the way that you state your positions
with out talking down to others like some of our friends....Peter. By the way
Pete...You don't have to buy a dictionary....Just google each word. You also
might want to google "Attila The Hun" to really clarify some of your opinions.
By the way, Peter, I served 6 years in the United States Marine Corps Reserve
and I was the first Marine Corps Reservist to be given a meritorious promotion
to the Rank of E-5 Sargent. Maybe I will post the letter that Colonel Dean
Locklear (Yeah Heathers father and a Ucla professor) wrote on my behalf.) I
spent a whole lot of time between drills because there wasn't enough time in one
weekend a month to do things correctly. I did not ask for the promotion, but
Colonel Locklear saw what I was trying to get done and realized that a Corporal
just didn't carry enough rank. so even though I had only been in 3 years he got
it done.(You Marines know that becoming a Corporal in only 3 years does is not
very common) And yes, I am proud of it. Peter, I am sure you are a good and
decent man who means well but just chill a little bit and throw away the base
ball bat. I must tell you that I have never seen such negative response to
someones postings, especially from folks who do not normally react like that.
Just chill and be positive and we can talk. You are bright talented guy and I
would bet that I would speak for others by saying that we would love for you to
be a part of this. I know you want to share and there are many things that we
could learn from each other. Peace Bro.
Rich
Sargenrt Richard Kenneth McKinney
Whoda thunk it??
Rich
Richie
rich mckinney
san diego, USA - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 at 15:42:26
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Peter...I'm one Californian who supports our troops. I do feel there was a
definite need. The atrocities against the women and children reminded me of the
Holocaust. When I went thru the Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C. I came out
of there crying and said to my husband that it made me ashamed to be an
American, that we knew that was going on and did nothing to try and stop it. I
still think there are WMD's, heck, I could hide them right here in Huntington
Beach and they would never find them. Our government was wrong in saying that
they received incorrect info, since they did not find any WMD's. Hell they gave
them plenty of time to get rid of them. I do believe we handled it wrong, we
should have sent in triple the troops, kicked ass and got the hell out. This has
gone on too long..I want our boys home NOW !!
I support our troops and pray for them everyday. I have been flying our American
Flag proudly in front of our house every day since the war started and it will
remain flying 'til all our boys are home.
If anyone reading this message board has family or friends in the military,
serving our wonderful country, please thank them for me and my family.
Freedom is not free !!!
Hugs, Diane
Diane Graveline Johnson
Huntington Beach, Ca USA - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 at 13:53:33
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Welcome to the <i>Oregon Rush Limbaugh Fan Club</i> with your host Peter Dane.
Peter, well done, the <i>riff raff</i> bit was so clever and cool; and I think
your <i>Planet of the Apes</i>comment got your point across too. No Gieko
insurance for you Pete, it's <i>Arian Nation Casualty </i> all the way.
Rush salutes you; and no wonder everybody hates California Pete, brains are
required. I hope they don't strip search you at Disneyland, say hi to Lush, er
Rush. Oh, my daughter in-law who was in Iraq and now is home on a 100%
disability disagrees with you along with most of the troops who want to come
home and be with their families. Then again, as you stated, California tuned
into the <i>Planet of the Apes</i>after our vets returned home from WW2; do you
think it will get worse when the rest of our vets get home from Iraq? Cherio!
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Stuart, the South Americans took the outriggers that the Islanders left on their
beach while they were shopping and sailed to Hawai'i for a vacation.
The South Americans also used the wild pigs that the Islanders brought for
transportation and their newly formed <i>South American Calvary</i>. Later when
the Spanish Conquistadors came, the South Americans were no match because the
Spanish Calvary had horses which could out run the pigs. That is why bacon is
outlawed in South America today.
The South Americans were so upset about the defeat they sent all of their pigs
back to the Islands. That was the beginning of the popularity of Spam. The
Vikings discovered New Jersey and it hasn't changed much.
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Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 at 13:27:05
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California: "Planet of the Apes"
Whether this country's foreign policy is right or wrong, the hysterical
criticism of its foreign policy only aides the enemies of American, and lowers
troop morale.
Aside from Disneyland, California is a joke to the rest of the country. After WW
II, the riff raff took over. That's what the movie "Planet of the Apes" and
"Blade Runner" are about.
A few blocks away from our residence is the start of miles of farms. Marion
County is first in agriculture in the state. Some of the little wild creatures
trek through our yard. With spider webs, it's best stomp the little insects.
What did William Shakespeare say, "Oh, what wicked webs you weave we you
practice to deceive." Good luck with California, it deserves better. Cheerio.
Peter Dane
Salem, OR USA - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 at 12:15:29
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Son of Galway:
Obviously, you are very proud of your ancient heritage and justifiably so.
Lest none of us forget the name of that great and famous leader of the Celtics
...............Red Auerbach.
I do have one question though: Do you have a Celts club jacket to go with your
Jasons, Sovereigns and Barrons ones?
Billy Heyerdahl:
You must have picked-up your copy of the "The Kon-Tiki Expedition" at the
Tel-Aviv Airport because evidently you read the book from right-to-left. I think
you got it backwards. Wasn't it the South Americans who were thought to have
sailed to the Pacific Islands before the Vikings ever left Minnesota and not the
other way around?
Stuart Kern
- Tuesday, October 02, 2007 at 03:37:07
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Vince, you're in luck. Believe it or not the Celtic Language still lives and is
still spoken in parts of Scotland, Wales, England and Ireland. Matter of fact
there are several Celtic radio shows that air every week. Their (and your)
history lives.
As far as their navigation skills go they have been handed down for centuries
along with their artifacts. The Celtics have never been buried or forgotten. My
grandfather (my mother's father was from Wales and still spoke the ancient
language).
Good God laddie, the Celtics still live and breath......and don't ever forget
they invented the tavern. Now shame yourself laddie; your kilt is stuck in your
crack and the wind is blowing though one ear and out the other.
Reminds me of the time laddie, when a Roman said to my grandfather after his
kilt blew up in the wind, "It is a bit airy isn't it" And he responded "What did
you expect....feathers?"
My young Flaherty, the Celts still live......... Oh, by the way, did you know
that the Pacific Islanders sailed to South America before the Vikings reached
North America? It pays to study history.
But who cares? The tavern wins out over poo poo's. Hey I am only having fun.
People are just people, everybody has the same dreams no matter what corner of
the earth you or your family came from. We are all the same. Period.
Todays quiz, who said "If you prick me, do I not bleed?"
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Tuesday, October 02, 2007 at 01:56:35
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Welcome Vice President Dick Cheney (born.January, 1941)
Peter, meet Dick.
Someone has been kayaking upstream, upside down, surfing on the wrong side of
the board, skiing uphill, with their ski's on their heads. Perhaps the Weapons
of Mass Distruction are hidden in the basement of the Louvre (don't presume that
a majority of us haven't been there), didn't the Da Vinci Code already cover
this?
I believe that the first one to say "America, Love It Or Leave It", might have
been BORAT, Groucho's nephew...
Dick, meet Peter...
guy
USA - Monday, October 01, 2007 at 23:07:48
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I came, I saw, I squandered.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Monday, October 01, 2007 at 22:21:39
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"vidi vici veni"
--Dick Cheney
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Monday, October 01, 2007 at 19:50:43
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"To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men."
-Abraham Lincoln
Stuart Kern
- Monday, October 01, 2007 at 18:22:40
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O.K. Billy, O.K. Don't shoot!! The check's in the mail!! Looking forward to the
"music". Now to get a CD player.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Monday, October 01, 2007 at 18:07:26
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Billy - I'm with you man..Whatever you say!!
Richie the Bonehead McKinney
TJ, USA - Monday, October 01, 2007 at 17:42:30
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Richie, I have all of those songs on my Ranger Bill's best country hits of all
time CD called "<i>Love It Or Leave It</i>". That's right, Ranger Bill
personally selected those amazing hits that are surely going to please you. And
if you don;t like what Ranger Bill likes, get out of Dodge; hell get out of
Merica! I don't care if 3 out of 4 Merican's don't like this CD......I am going
to keep playing it over and over and over again; and so will you, if you know
what's right.
Dang, how can you not like "<i>Torture Me Until My Heart Stops</i>" or "<i>I Hit
Oil When I found You</i>" or "<i>I Got Mine Find Your Own</i>" and don't forget
"<i>Can you Stay Until I am Gone</i>?"...the hits just keep coming and they're
an art treasure just waiting to be found. So what are you waiting for? Get your
CD right now; if you don't you ain't Merican in my book!
<center>Only <big><big><big>$29.95</big></big></big></center>
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Monday, October 01, 2007 at 17:12:37
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No.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss, CA USA - Monday, October 01, 2007 at 16:37:54
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Bad Mouthing America
What kind of meds are being handed out in Los Angeles? Where does NeoCon and
Celts come from? Let's talk on point.
Factoid: The Louvre Museum does have the premier Sumerian collection. American
troops did survey and protect Iraq art treasures.
Grocho at the Louvre? Isn't the harp on Ireland's flag originally the harp of
David? I hope I don't offend your Jewish hertiages.
Let's support our troops here and overseas. I served in the military, as did my
dad in WWII. An uncle was a Captain in the Rangers, General Patton's
3rd Army. "America, Love it or Leave it."
Peter Dane
Salem, OR USA - Monday, October 01, 2007 at 14:03:11
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Right on. I'd like to take a moment to complain about what the spread of the
expansionist Roman economic war machine did to the high-minded Celts who were
the at the height of their artistic and scientific development over 7,000 years
ago spanning from th nordick lands across what is now Germany Ireland Spain
Switzerland and into the Mediterranean Atlantis even to the Scythians and those
beyond and so forth as our planet felt the influence of this wonderful culture
long before the Vikings traveled the globe spreading trade and ideas and fancy
tortoise shell combs from Phoenicia that wound up buried beneath the town the
seafaring O’Flaherties founded called Galway which was a world trading hub long
before there was ever a London Town.
The Celts were probably the most forward thinking culture on the planet at the
time, but were pretty much done in due to the establishment of the Roman empire
who labeled them the “Barbarians”, even to the point of depicting them as always
butt naked except for those groovy neck rings of precious alloys, all to the
extent that most of their wonderful astronomical, astrological and scientific
advancements, their culture, even language was lost forever as time slipped
through thousands of years in some ways much worse than the dark ages because
the underlying logic of government was predicated upon the subjection of the
human spirit.
vince flaherty
paficsci palsiads, America - Monday, October 01, 2007 at 04:33:50
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I don't know what "INSURGANT PROGANDA" is. It must be Neocon code.
However, I do know what insurgent propaganda is. It comes from reporters on the
ground during and after the museums in Iraq were being looted...probably by
disguised Frenchmen from the Louvre all wearing Groucho-style glasses with big
noses, thick eyebrows and wide mustaches.
Obviously, those dastardly reporters were all members of a secret, sinister
cabal of "Insurgants" which included the Associated Press, Reuters, BBC, CNN and
The New York Times, among others. I guess you just can't trust anyone anymore,
can you?
Sorry, but any way you slice it, it's still Neocon baloney!
Stuart Kern
- Monday, October 01, 2007 at 00:35:40
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Sumarian Tresures are Safe
The Louvre Museum in Paris, France has one of the best collections of
Sumarian/Iraq artifacts in the world. They were gathered at the height of their
colonial era. If you ever visit the Louvre, check it out.
Despite the continuing Insurgant proganda, the U.S. and its Allies inventoried
and protected the important museums and archaeological sites in Iraq.
Ironically, Iran has a valuable collection of French Impressionists paintings.
As the Getty Museum in W.L.A. knows, there is a continuing trade in stolen art
and significant artifacts. These museums deal in primary sources for
autheticity. The world isn't such a bleak place after all. Keep on truckin'.
Peter Dane
Salem, OR USA - Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 20:04:06
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To answer your question, Guy, a resounding YES!
When it became obvious that neither the White House, the Pentagon, General Tommy
Franks or any of the generals under his command had made any provisions whatever
for the protection of Iraq's priceless cultural artifacts...some of which dated
back to the dawn of civilization...it became immediately and disturbingly
obvious to some Americans that the people responsible for planning and executing
the war in Iraq in our name were not nearly smart enough or schooled enough to
be charged with so awesome a responsibility.
I remember asking myself if maybe all of these guys were absent the day they
taught what Generals Eisenhower and MacArthur had both learned at West
Point...that it is imperative that the victors of a war who seek at least the
appearance of cooperation by the vanquished, not insult the cultural
underpinnings that society rests upon.
Think about it: How much intelligence, knowledge and respect does it take for
someone to know that the single thing which would surely be the glue binding
every citizen of Iraq together with every other one would be their
understandable pride in their ancient and once all-powerful culture,
particularly those treasures which have survived from so long ago because they
provide physical evidence that it was all true.
I suppose it boils down to respect or, in this tragic case, an ignorant lack of
respect for another culture by people who should know better. What hubris on the
part of these Philistines for dragging Old Glory through the mud as they have
and making us as a country seem no better than the worst of barbarians.
Sadly, this was but one of the things which has led to my strongly-held belief
that as long as I live, I will never forgive the Bush Administration for giving
away America's the most valuable and hard-won weapon in the never-ending war to
win hearts and minds...the moral high ground. And rationalize all you want, but
the stark fact is that, like virginity, once it's gone there's no getting it
back.
Is that along the lines of what you had in mind, Billy?
Stuart Kern
- Sunday, September 30, 2007 at 03:59:01
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Just heard one of the best quotes ever. Keep in mind I joined the Navy while at
Uni. AND my parents WERE married!
On PBS' "The War", this one fella was going to join the Navy but he and his
friends ran into a Marine recruiter who told them "Naw, you want to be a Marine.
You can't join the Navy anyway. Your parents are married."
Just caught me and made me laugh.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Saturday, September 29, 2007 at 17:58:19
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How can you not love country music?
"If I had shot you when I wanted to I'd be out by now."
"You're the reason our kids are so ugly."
"Momma, get a hammer, ther's a fly on Poppa's head."
"If you leave me, I'm going with you."
"I don't care if it rains or freezes, long as I got my plastic Jesus, sittin on
the dashboard of my car"
"I don't know whether to kill myself or go bowling"
"She's acting single and I'm drinking doubles."
Richie
Rich McKinney
bakersfield, USA - Saturday, September 29, 2007 at 13:23:22
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What lasts through history is the murals painted on the walls. They tell only
what the eye sees at the time. They are not media, they are not paid for, they
are just done. A painting from ones eye; at the time. You have that gift Guy to
transform that to words, each paint stroke becomes a word.
There are a lot of sharp minds here.......is it just sinking in? Welcome back to
the round table; as Dorothy Parker would say. Thank you Bobby and Carol.
Enter Lurch, pull your guns out you big lug. This is called '<i>Dancing With The
Stars</i>.......Let's see what you got. I have a lot of money riding on you.
Show me the money.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
High Sierras, CA USA - Saturday, September 29, 2007 at 02:49:34
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We have to convene the areopagus now 'cause you guys kill me.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Saturday, September 29, 2007 at 00:37:14
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Something's happening here..
The CIA would refer to it as "chatter", the recent up-tick in postings here, and
the subject matter.
World War Two provided the opportunity to take sides in what Cary so eloquently
defined in a single word. Areopogus. Mars Hill. Archaeological site. Viewpoint.
Acropolis. Roman bath. Talking about and listening to ideas. A forum for
theological discussion. An ancient council of elders.
Good show Cary. A true lawyerly cut to the chase definition.
I think that "The Secret of Santa Vitoria" covers the nexus of what the world
was going through at the time of WWII. It was truly "Good Against Evil", except
they thought they were the good...
I received another book this week that I found on e-Bay. It was titled "The 20th
Figher Group". There are photos of Dad's plane, with "Jackie" on one side, and
"Glengary Guy" on the other. Photos of him in Russia, on a long range bomber
escort mission that ended up continuing on into Italy, Switzerland (shhh...the
Swiss were neutral, weren't they???), France, and back to Kings Cliffe, United
Kingdom. There are photos of him towering above Russian peasants, wading buck
naked in the Adriatic, and standing rakishly next to his Mustang in his leather
flight helmet, lamb skin boots and jacket, and his ever present smile in each
one of the photos.
Todays L.A. Times Calendar section has an article by Kenneth Turan entitled
"War's forgotten casualty: Art. 'The Rape of Europa' engagingly details the
facinating fates of great artworks during and after World War II.
"When people think about World War II, wondering what it meant for the fate of
museum quality art is probably not the first thing that comes to mind. Yet as
the documentary "The Rape of Europa" demonstrates, this is a surprisingly vast
and involving topic.
Written, produced and directed by Richard Berge, Bonni Cohen and Nichole Newnham
and based on the authoritative book of the same name by Lynn H. Nicholas,
"Europa" covers a lot of territory and is packed with information.
It also tells a series of wonderful stories, many of which are fascinating
enough to inspire movies of their own.
That art was on the World War II agenda at all is because of the unexpected
makeup of German leader Adolph Hitler. As a young man he was eager to be an
artist, but being turned down by the Academy of Fine Arts Vienna left him with a
fierce hatred of modern art. That led, once he took power, to an "unrelenting
war of purification" against what he considered degenerate art, a wholesale
removal of 16,000 works from museum walls...
But Hitler didn't just purge all he hated, he also stole what he coveted, which
was alot... And his passion for art mandated a parallel passion in his
subordinates; Hermann Goering, for instance, had 1,700 paintings, more than most
museums, at his country estate. This led to industrial -strength looting of of
occupied countries, a plundering so systematic that German bureaucrats made up
lists of desired artworks as part of their invasion plans.
Some of the most interesting stories in "Europa" have to do with how Paris'
Louvre reacted to the impending invasion of France. Almost everything that could
be moved, including the large and fragile Winged Victory of Samothrace, was
carted up and sent out of town in a convoy of some 300 trucks (in a time of
severe gas rationing...). Specific curators were assigned specific works of art
to look after, and the daughter of the couple assigned the Mona Lisa tells of
how it was transported in a specialy sealed ambulance.
Once the Germans occupied Paris, things got more complex. Rather than go after
what the French had hid, the Germans looted art from Jewish apartments. Before
being shipped back to Germany, the paintings were stored in the Jeu de Paume,
where a woman named Rose Valland kept clandestine records of each painting,
records that were essential in recovering the art after the war.
Aside from art, the Germans also confiscated furniture, and the story is told of
a prisoner in Auschwitz, detailed to help ship the furniture to Germany, who was
shocked to come across his own family's household goods, inclucing personal
photographs, among the prizes of war.
For the invading American troops, how to treat the historically and artistically
significant buildings during attacks became such a major issue that a
predidential commission was appointed to look into it and ruled that these
structures should be saved whenever possible.
The famous test case where this was not done was the 1944 battle around Italy's
Monte Cassino monastery, an ancient site destroyed by American bombers because
of fears that Germans were dug in inside. After the deed was done, German
newsreels showed footage of the damage and accused the Americans of being
"desecraters of European culture."
"The Rape of Europa" details all these absorbing stories and more, even going
into the post-war fights about who owns what painting that culminated in the
sale of Gustav Klimpt's "Portrait of Adele Bloch-Bauer I" for a record $135
million.
The picture painted by this film is not pretty, but it is a difficult one to
turn away from.
Does anyone else remember the looting og some of historys greatest treasures
from the various ungaurded locations around Baghdad?...
guy webb
ventura, ca - Saturday, September 29, 2007 at 00:34:02
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Yes Carol, I wouldn't have received my gift if I had a Trojan, or I
mean....beware of ......oh I am so confused. It is all Cary's fault for teaching
us a new word.
Richie, glad to hear both of the the sons are doing fine; you taught them both
how to appreciate location, location, location and location. Youth and the ocean
go hand and hand.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
High Sierras, CA USA - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 21:08:58
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Carol....Atders funny, I don't care who you are! Update on my surfing
son....They "fled" Nias for Borneo,surfed that area for a week, then returned to
their "Adopted" family in Nias...They have saved so much money on food and
lodging that they are going to remain there for another month. My younger son
had been home from UC Santa Cruz for the summer...He headed back there last
Sunday. He and his 3 roommates were able to rent a 3 bedroom, 2 bath home a half
block from the beach in Santa Cruz! These kids ought to go into sales! (Or law!)
Richie
Rich McKinney
Athens, USA - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 18:02:44
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Awwwwwwww, so the saying "Beware of Greeks Bearing Gifts" didn't refer to the
Trojan Horse, it referred to Billy B!!! ;-)
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 17:46:57
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Yes Richie, I picked it up in Greece; the doctor told me that I was
'<i>Areopagitic</i>'. He went on to tell me that I must have received it from a
council member.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
High Sierras, CA USA - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 17:12:44
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Billy Bak had that "areopagus" a few years back.....a little penicillin knocked
it right out!
Rich mckinney
Sandy Eggo, USA - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 16:13:02
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Hmmmmm.......Spencer Tracy and Audry Hepburn always fought like cats and dogs in
the beginning of their movies.......a developing <u>plutonic</u> love/hate
intellectual attraction of writers perhaps?.......hmmmmmm......Guy, you may be
on to something big here........I'll get some popcorn.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
High Sierras, CA USA - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 15:46:43
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Oh---Forgot to add that our daughter and her (then) boyfriend watched the Twin
Towers fall, from their Manhattan flat. They decided life was short, got married
the next month, October, and we just welcomed our first grandchildren--fraternal
twin girls, 14 pounds of babies, last June......That's the good part. What about
the EPA coverups related to 9-11 illnesses and deaths? What about the
Todd-Whitman "lies" and misrepresentations discovered in the 9-11 Commission?
Our "enemies" (and here's where I understand Bob Brann) also "look" like us, and
are among us......
Toni Barra Hardy
Harrison, Idaho USA - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 14:12:47
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Cary: You bring up a good point.....If, however, I began to discuss the
"faults"---documented and perceived---within my family system, this site would
crash and burn fast, either from fatigue, boredom, or disbelief. That said, I
don't think my DNA evidences any fewer or more heroes, intellectuals, whackos,
moralists, "foreigners," drunks, abstainers, athletes, couch potatoes,
dirt-diggers, fashion Divas, closeted whatevers, circuit-riding ministers, than
anyone else's.....Even "The Right Stuff" had issues.....
Guy: A room of any kind with Stuart??? EEEEEKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!
Toni Barra Hardy
Harrison, Idaho USA - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 13:50:09
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My father was 4F and I'm not sure why, but knowing my genetics, he was probably
too short!! ;-))) But, I LOVE the stories about all of your fathers and want to
thank each of you for sharing them. p.s. Guyster, was that a "Chat" room for
Toni & Stuart????? p.s.s. Cary, if we allowed only "intelligent comments", I'd
never be able to post a message. So I say, all comments are welcomed!!! ;-)))
Carol McConkey Younger
Bend, OR USA - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 07:55:08
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On the one hand, my Dad was a war hero, but on the other hand, he had faults
like all the rest of us. I enjoy checking in on the comments people send in to
this site. It seems to me that the important thing is that the people with
intelligent comments should write in, so that this place be a little areopagus
where people can express their views.
H. Cary Stewart
Playa Del Rey, CA USA - Friday, September 28, 2007 at 01:42:44
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If no one has figured it out yet, this site is a blog of the children of the
"Greatest Generation"...
That makes us, you and me, the children of the greatest generation...
We, and our children, and our children's children, are what they fought to
preserve. World War II took 3 years and eight months...
9/11/01 was six years, two weeks, and 6 days ago...
At least our parents had a clear picture of whom the "Enemy" was, other than the
native Japanese, German, and Italians, who were treated so wretchedly. I never
heard a complaint from any of my school mates, even Bobby Kacuchi, who
maintained our yard with his father Frank, while his mother remained in the car
in front of our house on Monument Street. They never once asked to use our
bathroom, or asked for a raise. Hopefully, I treated our Japanese classmates
with respect. I never remember a single harsh word, or a Japanese American who
got in a fight or got drunk...
Glen, please keep posting...
Toni and Stuart, get a room... (:)
Thank you Richie... I'm happy to share...
guy webb
USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 23:36:28
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Glen, my father would never drive a Japanese car OR a German car to piggy-back
on what you said your father went through. Although I disagreed with some of my
Dad's political views, and his extreme mistrust of some cultural groups after
the war, he was a true humanist at heart and believed in the good of mankind. He
was a Republican all his life, unlike his daughter ( me !), but I think this war
and this President would make him horrified of what has happened to the country
that he fought so hard for.
Judi Hersh Welch
Pac Pal CA, USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 22:59:46
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I would like to add a bit about my Greatest Generation Dad, Robert Hersh, who
was a Captain in the Army Air Corps in WWII. He went to war in 1942. He had to
eat two dozen prunes and 2 gallons of water to make the 135 lb. weight to train
as a pilot of B-17's. He went to Taft Field to train where he and my mother were
married. He left my mother 9 mos. pregnant with me and took a troop carrier to
Guam. He flew missions in the South Pacific for two years. He flew A.T.11's and
B-17's. He was in the Battle of Leyte Gulf, The Battle of Midway, the Battle of
Okinawa, the Battle of Linguayan Gulf and was with the troops that liberated the
Phillipines. He was twice awarded the Presidential Citation of Honor for
bravery. I was born two days after D-Day: June 8, 1944. My Dad returned in 1945.
He joined the family grocery business in 1946 which eventually became Westward
Ho Markets for the next 50 years. Daddy had "war nightmares" for most of his
life. When I was very young I remember him awakening and screaming "No No get
back"! He had fungus problems the rest of his life from combat in the jungles of
the South Pacific. He never talked much about what he went through. It was just
his duty to America. He only had a one week vacation before he went back to
work. He never complained that I can remember.
I saw his dog-tags once when I was very young and saw an H on the back and said,
"Daddy, they have your initial back here"....he just said "Yes, they do". It
wasn't until I was an adult that I realized it meant "Hebrew" for he was Jewish
and that is the way he would be buried if he died overseas. I never knew that.
He suffered a great deal of Anti-Semitism during the war but he never told me
about it until just before he died of cancer when my sister and I were tape
recording his war memories to save for our children, his grandchildren. He was
such a modest, kind, and good man. Truly one of the Greatest Generation.
I miss him every single day.
Judi Hersh Welch
Pac Palisades, USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 22:49:14
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Have had company in town for the past week, so have been a litle busy. Great
recent postings. Judy, I can certainly appreciate your feelings about your
greatest generation Dad. Sounds like a wonderful man, as they all were. As I
have posted before, my real father was a B24 Liberator pilot and won the
distinguished flying cross.Unfortunately he had a terrible experience in the war
that changed his life so much that he chose to abandon his wife and kids so I
never knew him, but, dammit I wish I did. Guy Webb posted about his father
recently and it was so beautiful that I was gonna ask him if I could pretend
that the letter was from my Dad, but I thought it would sound stupid, so I
didn't. I never really knew how much it effect it had on me (Thank you Mr.
Koenig) until my own 2 sons were born and I realized how much "Fatherly" love
they got from me, especially in the early years. It is irreplaceable. Thank you
for sharing with us, all of you.
Richie
Rich mckinney
Sandy Eggo, ca USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 20:41:01
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Well said Hal, unfortunately the people did vote in 2000 for who they wanted and
they had the most votes. The Supreme Court said differently. In 2004 Ohio
decided instead of the voters (to be fair however, this is still highly
debatable).
Also, it is unfortunate that the younger generation does not show up at the
polls and voting to them is a 'geezer sport'. College kids who used to be the
most active in prior generations may make a come back because student loans are
now committing them to a life of financial hardships. Strapped with a fifty or
even hundred thousand dollar student loan and less inviting career
opportunities, they are starting to see how politics can affect their lives.
Threaten to bring back the draft and you will see them running for the voting
booth.
Hopefully, the housing market may also wake a few people up. For the past ten
years people thought the quality of life was getting better because they could
by 'cheap' stuff. Hey, big screen T.V.s, furniture, gadgets, computers you name
it, cheap! Trinkets from China replaced long term thinking. Trinkets from China
replaced American jobs. Trinkets from China replaced the cars in the garage.
Credit card companies send you pretty pictures of trinkets from China as they
give you a card because you have a face and you are pre-approved. Who cares if
you go into debt, we'll just take your house and toys back.
I am not knocking China (my step sister was born there and my dad lived there
for nine years) and I am glad to see them increase their quality of life but
when WalMart is China's biggest trading partner (maybe I should say that WalMart
is China's biggest customer) What does that do to the American worker?
When WalMart marched across the U.S. like Sherman through Georgia, their tactics
were less then admirable. They would build three stores in three towns in a 100
to 150 mile radius. Each store would slowly force out the local merchants like
the local toy, bike, florist, five and dime, hardware, appliance etc. These
stores couldn't compete with the numbers. Their wholsale prices were higher than
WalMart was selling for retail. One by one they folded. Then Walmart would close
the two stores on the outer edge and keep the middle store opened; now some
people had to drive 50 or so miles to shop at Walmart because the small
businesses had dried up. Many of the local merchants are now working for WalMart
for a whopping $8.50 an hour.
You say free enterprise, ok, I am a capitalist too, but now, the manufacturer
has to meet WalMart's prices. To do that, they have to move their factories to
China or some other Pacific Rim country. Yes material things get cheaper, but
wages start to drop or worse, disappear as American factories close.
Oh, here is a funny turn of events, remember outsourcing? Oh yea, one of Silicon
Valley's fun projects a few years back. Here is how it worked. We'll say in 2004
IBM was paying a technical writer $85,000 a year. A firm in India calls and says
we can do that job for only $40,000 a year per writer. Business gets so good in
India that in 2007 they are outsourcing that same job to the out of work Silicon
Valley (hasn't worked in two years) worker for $35,000 a year. isn't that neat.
Does IBM (I am just using that company name as an example) want to hire that
same worker back for $35,000? What do you think the answer is?
The housing boom of 2004 to 2005? Where did that money come from? And where did
it go? Oh I can go on and on........But Hal is right, get your kids, neighbors,
and who ever to vote. We just may get it right someday.
Is Ranger Bill looking better to you? Surf is up
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 18:20:23
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A person can complain all they want about the current crises America is facing,
I.E. politicians buying thier way in to office. One thing everyone has to
remember that somebody bought what they were selling and VOTED for them. The
time to act is before the offending Pols, are elected in the first place. The
only way your voice can be really heard is to vote for the person you think can
do the job and ignore party ties. I am an independent-non affiliated voter and
have voted in the past for the candidate that I thought woul do the job. So far
none of the ones that I have voted for have won.
Hal Thorburn
Orange, Ca USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 15:46:33
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GREAT IDEA DIANE...
I'll start... My dad was a dentist... he fixed teeth... His friends mostly
practiced medicine... now the whole industry belongs to the HUGE Illegal
Insurance Companies... and it's a "carve for profit" industry. Their profit, not
the physicians... not the individual pharmacy... (oh, there aren't any more of
those??? hmmmmmm. Where the hell did they all go... ? oh, really? CVS? Rite Aid?
WalMart? HUGE conglomerates? But they're complaining of "shrinking profits"...
what caused that?
OK Diane, your turn. I'd like to know how your dad would feel about the Heart of
America "the independent business owner" being ripped out in favor of the big
business conglomerates... like NAPA... I just wonder what his dream turned into,
and why and how it happened, and when it happened and ... oh yah... I'd love to
hear his ideas on just how a little guy with a small pile of cash could open an
auto parts store and make a living that would be good enough to raise his
beautiful family in the Pacific Palisades. That would be a good story. Lemme
hear you tell that story, Diane.
Things Change. The public has lost site of our dream, we're no longer able to
ask questions, because everyone pretends there is no answer. Gee... doesn't that
look a lot like Pre-war Germany?????
That is the BS I'm talking about existing here on this website that we're not
facing. That is precisely what's happening today... WHERE is the CONNECTION
between the THEN and the NOW... We are no longer living in the past... and if we
do we'll never see what's going on around us today. WAKE UP AMERICA... WE'RE IN
A WORLD OF HURT.
Hugs Diane...
Bobby Brann
La Jolla, CA USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 11:12:13
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I KNEW it was in us!! Keep it up.
Jerry Carpenter
Arroyo Grande, CA USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 11:12:02
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GREAT posting Glen...I would love to hear more of your Dad's stories. You write
beautifully, have you ever thought of writing a book? The love you have for your
Dad is beyond compare. I would love to share your story with the history
teachers at my high school, if it is o.k. with you? I know they would love to
read it to their classes when they study World War II. I printed it from the
message board but it came out reallllllllllly small print, I couldn't figure out
how to enlarge the print. Could you please email me a copy if you have it
"saved"? Any more stories? Would love to hear them...my email address is :
CraigandDiane@aol.com
Billy B....I'm sure Ellen has some wonderful stories to share also...let's hear
everyone's stories about their parents.
Hugs, Diane
Diane Graveline Johnson
Huntington Beach, Ca USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 10:53:27
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In my haste to write some of my anger at what is happening I forgot to say how
much I enjoyed Glen's posting. I didn't read it until after I let my fingers
attack the keyboard in a rare personal display of feeling I save for my
political boards.
Glen, please feel free to join us, we love to here about personal experiences.
We all learn from each other and hopefully pass it on to the next generation so
they know what helped shape their world. For better or worse. Love your plane
art. Billy B.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 02:45:23
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I have been fighting this administration since the day that they took office. It
is corrupt and the worst presidency in the history of this country. Bush Jr, is
not only the worst president in the history of this country he is also one of
the worst world leaders in the free world. Period.
What is scary about a man like this is that he is too stupid to know that he is
stupid. He is just the tip of the colon he represents. The colon being the long
snake of war profiteers and the selling out of the American middle class.
If you think for one minute these chicken hawks think anything about our
military personal forget it. These gutless neocons think only about profit and
power.
Judy is right (what she heard recently at the meeting), if there was a draft
there would be no more Iraq B.S. It is unfortunate, that the younger generation
is to involved with TMZ, video games and just being young that the only politics
is what they get off of Fox entertainment news (owned by Murdock who has single
handedly divided this country with his a.m. radio right wing hate machine).
Divide and confuse.
Added by Karl Rove who invented the clever move of attacking somebody's greatest
contributions and making them look like the opposite. If you were well known for
working with children you became a child molester. If you were a war hero you
became a liar. If you were a saint you became a sinner, and on and on. This is
one dirty bastard.
When Bush was caught ditching his reserve obligations (by the way, the turd
never flew a plane.....fake story) Rove turned the story around and Dan Rather
got nailed (he made the mistake of going for the bait.......his fault). This
whole Iraq thing is a shame for control of the oil fields ( I know
DUH!)......what is worse, they are brain washing our troops and rewriting
history and shoving it down there throats. These guys are real sweethearts!
Unfortunately Karl Rove figured something out 15 years ago, he learned it from
Hitler and Stalin (he studied them to see how they got and maintained power) The
average person does not pay attention so you can tell them how to think by
telling them what not to think. NEVER QUESTION PATRIOTIC FLAG WAVING! IF YOU ARE
NOT WITH US......YOU ARE AGAINST US!
Nobody wants to be unpatriotic.......it works every time.
Remember when they told you that Iraq had drone planes that could deliver an
A-bomb to the U.S.? The plane was a remote control plane with a range of five
miles and a pay load of 1/2 pounds. The American people bought it; they didn't
even bother.........I just couldn't believe they bought it.
See Bobby....you don't want to get us started here...yes we know what is
happening, but we have over 3/4 of this country that don't give a flying jack's
ass about politics until they are broke and in the streets (or drafted).
America is in big trouble unless these people wake up. Big trouble. Just look at
the big pig SUV's with cell phones stuck in the drivers ears and gas at $3.40 in
many areas.......the dumbing down of America is around us.
Oh, Surf's up.
Bill Bakaleinikoff
Moss Beach, CA USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 02:26:00
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Thank you Toni and Bill for your stories of your families and World War II. I
think Ken Burns (and others such as Steven Spielberg) have done a tremendous
service by telling part of the complex story of World War II. It gives all of us
an opportunity to continue to learn from that whole experience. I think one of
the major points of studying history is to allow us to connect the present with
the past and envision the kind of future we would like to see.
I was going to write something about the experience of my husband's father in
World War II (and after) but then I thought my husband could write about it so
much better than I could so I asked him if he would like to write something for
the Uni Web site on this topic. What follows is what he wrote:
When I watch the Ken Burns documentary The War, my mind goes back to Friday
afternoons in Hayward, Ca, when my father, Nathaniel Hart, after working all
day, would come home and cut the lawn. It was the most beautifully manicured
lawn in America. I was a child and would sit on the driveway holding my Mattel
Thompson Submachine gun and I had his army belt with the old metal canteen
strapped around my shoulder. I would wait for him to fill the lawn mower basket
and dump it. Than I would ambush him with the questions. Dad, what did you do in
the war? Did you kill any Japs? (I am using the term Japs because that was the
term of the times) How many medals did you get? He would stop and sit down with
me and never answer the questions directly but would always have a story to
tell.
He joined the Army in March 1941, 8 months before Pearl Harbor. It was a way to
escape the stagnant world that existed in Los Angeles. A chance to see the
world. Maybe a chance to escape the extreme racisism that existed in American
civilian life. You see my Dad was Colored or Negro (again the terms of the
times).
He participated in 5 campaigns in the Pacific: New Guinea, Admiralty Islands,
Cape Glouster, Leyte and Cebu. When the war ended he was training for the
invasion of Japan.
He talked of the mud and disease. How he caught malaria and dysentery. He spoke
of the giant banner that was put up by a forward infantry unit on the road where
the notorious Bataan Death March had occurred. It said, “DOWN THIS ROAD ARE THE
JAP BASTARDS WHO CONDUCTED THE BATAAN DEATH MARCH. KILL EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM”.
Dad’s unit was the first to be integrated by the U.S. Army in the Pacific. You
see the army needed truck drivers. They had more trucks than they had drivers.
The army decided to allow recently wounded white soldiers to drive trucks and
ride next to colored soldiers. Dad’s commanding officer addressed about 40 white
soldiers and told them they had a choice. They could drive trucks with colored
troops or they could get on a truck over on the left and go back up to their old
units and fight Japs. Not one man went to the truck on the left. The men worked
great together and became a unit. However the head of Jim Crow had to surface.
100 truck convoys carrying medicine, ammo, food and other very important
supplies to white troops on the front line would be stopped by members of the
Alabama National Guard. The Guard would stop the 50th truck or so, and pull out
the colored truck driver if he was sitting next to a white driver. They would
proceed to beat the hell out of him. By the time my dad, who was a Master Sgt by
then, and his commanding officer would get there the MPs would leave. It
continued until Dad’s CO, Lt. Bauscher (white officer) placed himself in one of
the middle trucks and caught the MPs in the act. He relieved them of the
weapons, put them in a truck and took them to the commanding General of the 6th
Army. He told the General, “Sir, how can get supplies to the front when my men
are being beaten for carrying out your orders?" The general stopped it. None of
the MPs were ever punished.
About a month later the local Philippinos decided to throw a dance for the GIs.
Dad’s unit was invited and the Alabama National Guard unit was invited. Well the
sight of colored soldiers dancing with Phillippino women was too much for some
of the southern boys to handle so they shot one of the colored soldiers. Well
the colored soldiers went back to their base and got their guns and there was a
mini race war in the middle of the greatest war on earth. One white MP was
killed and 4 colored soldiers were hung. Dad’s Commanding Officer in a taped
interview that was made for our family said, “ I know my soldiers did not start
this and it was not the fairest of trails.” McArthur approved the final
sentence.
My Dad did not talk much about the war except to me. He did not tell us how fate
in the form of a broken 5-ton truck in a stream saved him and his unit from
being wiped out by the Japanese. Had that truck not broken down they would have
arrived in the next valley where a White engineering unit was wiped out to the
last man.
He did not talk much about the Bronze star he won when during an enemy bombing
he jumped out of his foxhole and carried a gravely wounded white soldier 2 miles
in his arms in the rain to an aid station at night. Dad just briefly mentioned
it. We tried to find more info on it after my Dad passed away, but there was a
big fire in St. Louis at the Records Center in the early 70s His records and
thousands of other soldiers' records were lost forever. The Records center asked
us to send what we had. All that my mom had was a worn discharge paper with the
section stating AWARDS. Bronze Star for Valor, Philippines campaign was typed on
it in faded ink.
Dad would never drive a Japanese Car. I got my brand new 1980 280 ZX and a Honda
later. He would look at them and compliment but passed on driving them. He loved
my Ford Ranger and my 69 Firebird. He would not talk negatively about the
Japanese. He always said that they could spot you under a bush from 20,000 ft
and he could tell the sound of a Japanese Airplane from the sound of a U.S.
airplane. He would say they were the toughest fighters he had ever seen. Then he
would put his head down and shake it. It was as if he was seeing the images and
by shaking his head it would shake them away.
He came home and wanted to be a California Highway Patrol Officer. He went in
the CHP office to get the application. One of the officers came out and after
looking at Dad’s military papers said, as if my dad should have known, “Hart if
it was left up to me we could use you, but you see the Highway patrol does not
hire coloreds.”
He went on to work for the Army as a civilian and rose up through the ranks to
be a Supervisor. He raised 4 children and sent 2 to college. I went on to the
University of San Francisco, graduated, and became an Army Officer. When I first
went into the Army Pop looked at me and said, “Do you know what the hell you're
doing? This ain’t Combat or Rat Patrol on TV!” I said I did, but my friends and
I had no idea what we were getting into. I could see that he was proud of me.
So here is one story of one man who was my Dad. He is gone now but thanks to Lt.
Bauscher, I have a picture of my dad and his men. My Dad is standing there with
his men and his C.O. in the mud next to one of there trucks. There’s that big
grin on his face. That "can do" attitude that fixed the family, T.V., dried the
tears, and made everything all right in the world. That was my Dad. He was and
is my hero.
Ken Burns is receiving a lot of flack for the way he decided to tell the story
of America at War. I have seen and read everything from Steven Ambrose, World at
War, Victory at Sea, Sgt. Rock and Fury, G.I. Combat, Johnny Cloud the Flying
Ace and the Jeb Stewart and the Haunted tank (Those were the great comic books
from the 50’s and 60’s). Burns gives us a human side to that war. He also
reminds us of the cost of war and its lingering pain. In the book Fly Boys for
the first time I thought, really thought, about Moms. How moms lose their sons,
their lovely boys. So many of those Moms die inside, cry every day for the rest
of their lives. No one ever talks about that. We just give them Gold stars. No
one talks about the divorce rate and how many families are destroyed by the
arrival of a telegram or the knock on the door. How Mothers, Fathers, and all
the others left behind cry as we speak for today’s fallen heroes.
Ken Burns writes best about what he knows. America. He talks about us in a time
where even with our hypocrisy and hate we could rally and beat a greater evil.
Our victory brought back men and women who changed and challenged this country
forever.
This is the first time I have really sat down and written about my Dad. Thanks
for having this discussion. May we always remember and may we never ever forget.
Glen Hart
P.S. I decided to use the term Colored rather than Black or African American,
because it is period and speaks volumes just by itself. Same goes for using the
term Jap.
Judy Vandegrift
Loveland, CO USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 02:25:13
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Check this out:
http://www.populistamerica.com/cowboy_republic
And when you get through with that... read the other articles that this reviewer
wrote...
And if you're still marching around waving a flag, you better pull your head out
of the sand.
And I understand, if you can't read, then don't bother... This stuff isn't for
everyone... but if you have even a piece of a brain... dive into it. And for
GOD'S SAKE... don't be afraid to ask questions.
Bobby Brann
La Jolla, CA USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 01:52:55
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Bob....you would've enjoyed hearing John Dean speak a few months ago at the
Palisades Democratic Club....he was promoting a new book and also had a signing
of his last book:'
"The Bush Administration: Worse than Watergate"....
He really does say things that have gone on the past 7 years have surpassed
anything that Nixon, Haldeman, Erlichmann or any of the "plumbers" did during
Watergate. Bush is basically, according to John Dean, a puppet of Cheney and his
Dad. He is totally "lost" and has no "vision" of what his administration has
done. It has done so much to ruin our reputation on the International Scene. It
does feel hopeless now for many of us....if the draft were ever reinstated, this
country would explode like they did in the 60;s during Viet Nam.
Let's pray for an end to this God Damn War( the quote that was bleeped from
Sally Field's acceptance speech at the Emmy's !!)......if only one more young
man's life could be saved.....it would be a blessing.
11-04-08.....is coming soon.
Judi Hersh Welch
Pac Palisades, USA - Thursday, September 27, 2007 at 00:44:55
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